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    Default Empathy makes the world go round

    I was pestered into doing this test here, as linked:

    http://glennrowe.net/BaronCohen/Empa...yQuotient.aspx

    I want to know what score you get. And I want to know how you think empathy may figure into socionics.

    Mine was 56. A little bit higher than average. Now a friend of mine wants me to question whether I could be an IEE (unlikely) based on this. But empathy happens on a different (lower) level right?

    Please forgive my possible incoherence, I am currently intoxicated.

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    I scored 5.

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    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it’s a disease, it’s nobody’s fault. Yay empiricism.

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    43.

    Some of these questions were weird and not really related to empathy, like this one:

    51. I like to be very organized in day-to-day life and often make lists of the chores I have to do.
    wat

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    Lol a bit macabre but I liked this question:
    When I was a child, I enjoyed cutting up worms to see what would happen.

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    28. Oh god, I have aspergers. I thought for sure I'd score like a 100.

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    I got 40. So pretty much average, sounds about right.
    "Nothing happens until the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change."

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    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    50. A lot of times with these tests I become too tempted to respond in terms how I think I *should* be instead of how I've acted in the past.

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    Seriously, what is wrong with me.

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    I DON'T KNOW WHY DON'T YOU TELL US

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    I finished, got sent to the top and compulsively pressed clear answers. Life sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlast View Post
    I finished, got sent to the top and compulsively pressed clear answers. Life sucks
    how does that make you feel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    how does that make you feel?
    Like spontaneously combusting. Did you intuitively sense that with your superior ESP empathy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Seriously, what is wrong with me.
    Nothing probably. I'm sure any score on an empathy test will fluctuate depending on various factors, and like radio said - some of those questions seem to have little relevance to empathy anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlast View Post
    I finished, got sent to the top and compulsively pressed clear answers. Life sucks
    You can click the back button and it has your answers saved

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    Quote Originally Posted by squirreltual View Post
    You can click the back button and it has your answers saved
    omfg I got 23, and I was strongly opposed to killing worms.

    Jessica, hold me

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Seriously, what is wrong with me.
    It's just another test with faults. You could try this short & simple empathy test which is a little more focused and it might make you feel a bit better with the results:

    http://www.noanxiety.com/tests/empathy-test.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
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    I don't like the way this test construes empathy, as it seems to be conflate it with sympathy, civility (good manners), and conscientiousness.
    If you really don't understand what good manners have to do with empathy and truly think they are totally arbitrary, then you don't have much empathy I don't "mind my manners most of the time, because doing it feels forced, but...seriously there is something wrong with you if you think verbal communication is only about what you say and not how you say it.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I mind my manners nearly all of the time and it never feels forced. If it feels forced, I don't do it.
    IEI-Fe 4w3

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    Then what are you saying?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    55
    “Let us forget with generosity those who cannot love us”
    ― Pablo Neruda

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Seriously, what is wrong with me.
    Nothing is wrong with you. You're just SLI.
    "Nothing happens until the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlast View Post
    omfg I got 23, and I was strongly opposed to killing worms.

    Jessica, hold me
    Ok phew, im not the only one. Im always so enthusiastic to post my results but then I see others results and feel like a sociopath. I scored lower than Ashton for god sakes...no offense Ashton but you seem like the god of cold hard logic. I guess I'll just go murder children now. I feel strange though. I don't care at all about having friends. Oh well

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Seriously, what is wrong with me.
    Nothing. Trust me, I can tell, I have a high EQ
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    i cut up worms but i also kissed them. not at the same time.

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    I was ready to quit the test with the question regarding current trends and fashions.
    And then again with the question about enjoying caring for other people.
    But I forced myself to finish it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise View Post
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    I was ready to quit the test with the question regarding current trends and fashions.
    And then again with the question about enjoying caring for other people.
    But I forced myself to finish it.
    I agree it's silly, but there IS relevance. Feeling "one" with others etc.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I agree it's silly, but there IS relevance. Feeling "one" with others etc.
    Oh, you mean losing sense of self, supplanting personal values/interests for those of others, etc.
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    I got 65, but I think it's largely because I'm old and have had tons of time to learn social rules. The test isn't just asking about empathy.
    It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
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    Weird test, I scored 14. Oh well, I'm going to borrow some points from Slacker seeing she's got plenty.

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    Weird, I thought it would be way higher.
    „Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
    – Arthur Schopenhauer

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    I stopped at #2.

    "2. I prefer animals to humans."

    lol..........

    That was enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
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    Weird, I thought it would be way higher.
    That's what I thought as well. I thought.

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    Your score: 35

    Hmm.

    I'm good w/empathy as far as listening to other people's problems and being loving/understanding but in social situations I don't think I'm very empathetic, I'd more or less either would rather just not participate at all or completely have things my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Seriously, what is wrong with me.
    The test is awful, but we can find something wrong with you if you want us to.

    Tell me about your childhood...


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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i cut up worms but i also kissed them. not at the same time.
    I didnt get that far to answer that question, but I couldnt even if I wanted to. We dug up worms from the garden in South Dakota to go fishing with. So... which was less/more empathetic -- fishing with my father or catching a worm, giving it a mini ecosystem contain, and putting it by my night stand? And so on... lol

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    I don't have aspergers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stray View Post
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    I don't have aspergers.
    Neither.

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