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    Default Diego Maradona

    The famous soccer player.

    I have some doubts about what type he is. What do you guys think?

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    IMO he is an SEE

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    He must be SEE. I can't see any other option.
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    Yes, SEE


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    ah cool. It's settled then. Thanks guys.

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    ESTP

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    SEE: no Fe in him at all
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    I think Maradona is ESE. I'm sure about Fe Ego, but not that certain about ESE - my arguments could easily include EIE as well, though I'm having his typical Alpha SF appearance and his simplicity as indicatives.

    He is moody, he likes the show - once said that people come there for the "Maradona Show". I heard that he is very affectionate with his players, hugs and kisses - some suggested that he is gay . He often goes overboard, is easily impressionable and talks a lot in superlatives, he is total doesn't take backup in his declarations [1] (about Chavez: that he went there to meet a great man but he met "a giant" instead). All he is about is about feeling good or bad, talks mostly in terms of likes and hates. Empathetic. He is determined, strong in principles and lacks diplomacy. Motivated by strong emotions and enthusiasm - and justifies using such things. He feels like often expressing his feelings.

    Some quotes:
    (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...st-quotes.html)
    Diego Maradona on sportsmanship...
    "I was waiting for my teammates to embrace me and no one came, ... I told them, 'Come hug me or the referee isn't going to allow it.'"
    Diego Maradona on his political affiliation...
    "I believe in [Venezuelen President Hugo] Chávez, I am Chavista. Everything Fidel [Castro] does, everything Chávez does, for me is the best."
    Diego Maradona on his team's work ethic...
    "I have 23 wildcats prepared to leave their skins on the pitch."
    Diego Maradona on proving the doubters wrong...
    "To those who did not believe: now suck my d**k - I'm sorry ladies for my words - and keep on sucking it. I am either white or black. I will never be grey in my life. You treated me as you did. Now keep on sucking d**ks. I am grateful to my players and to the Argentinian people. I thank no one but them. The rest, keep on sucking d**ks."
    (http://www.quotesdaddy.com/author/Diego+Maradona)
    “I'd be the happiest person in the world if he came, but I don't think he will.”
    “To those of you who have cheered on my goals, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.”
    “considering that it is impossible to talk about affection and feelings with a heartless man. Maybe drugs have made him so, but now I have had enough of (his) nastiness.”
    “I'm happy that you are going to be there.”
    (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...wsstory.sport8)
    On Argentina facing England before the 2002 World Cup...
    "The English are absolutely terrified of us. They are quaking in their boots."
    On Argentina's early exit from that same World Cup, helped along by England's 1-0 win...
    "If I had gone to Japan, if I had been with the lads, maybe it could have been different...Seeing Bati crying, the Little Witch Veron, the Little Clown Aimar, Almeyda. Poor lads."
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    [1] - explicit and unequivocal, unlike the SEE.
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    I agree with The Ineffable!

    Honestly, the video of him, he trembles with feeling. yeah, like a guy that will run up and kiss you or something.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    I agree with The Ineffable!
    The facts I posted wouldn't even allow you otherwise... unless you were insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    The facts I posted wouldn't even allow you otherwise... unless you were insane.
    I disagree with you. All Maradona says is vague and politically correct, as gammas do. ESEs don't say "thank you", they hug you or sth like that. If you spoke Spanish, you would understand Maradona better.
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    I'm as well pretty confident that he is serious over merry.

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    SEE fo sho. Figured it from VI, initially, but the vid made it most obvious. I can see it in his eyes, gestures. Highly similar to a number of SEEs I have known, the Se sub, esp. And needless to say, he is particular on spatial awareness and on what he did to perform an action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    I disagree with you. All Maradona says is vague and politically correct, as gammas do. ESEs don't say "thank you", they hug you or sth like that. If you spoke Spanish, you would understand Maradona better.
    The only thing I need to know in order to understand Maradona better is how to tell you "suck it" in Spanish.

    Good to know that in Spain and Argentina ESEs never say "thank you"
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    Oh shit, here they go again... I'm out of here!

    (kisses)
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    Run, Ineffable, run.

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    Diego Maradona - ESTP Zhukov






    Last edited by khcs; 11-25-2020 at 10:34 PM.

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    has a tattoo of Che Guevara. very left leaning and supported revolutions. makes the impression of a self-loving diva to me.

    in this conference video he doesn't recognice a german soccer player so he leaves the podium as if he doesn't want to sit beside someone who is beneath him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebJfxXXcz_U

    interesting personality overall. he fits the EIE description very well imo.

    edit: this interview is also very interesting in which a reporter mentioned that he's very affectioned with players. "lots of hugs and kisses". maradona didn't seem to understand the translation though.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5fH7Xw9wI
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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    has a tattoo of Che Guevara. very left leaning and supported revolutions. makes the impression of a self-loving diva to me.
    Left-leaning one day, right-leaning the day before. Lowest-hanging fruit type of collectivism and tax evasion are his only constants.

    Regarding his type, SLE-Se maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    Left-leaning one day, right-leaning the day before. Lowest-hanging fruit type of collectivism and tax evasion are his only constants.

    Regarding his type, SLE-Se maybe.
    I admit that I don't know much about him, but I can't see SLE to be this kind of dramatic and attention-seeking. they are more down-to-earth and like all logical prefer to avoid drama in any way. the comment from the reporter about "hugs and kisses" with players makes me sceptical. SLE have vulnerable Fi after all.
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    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

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    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    crying : (

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    He looks ESI or fe base. Don't know where all the se base is coming from

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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    I admit that I don't know much about him, but I can't see SLE to be this kind of dramatic and attention-seeking.
    Wrong. Dead wrong! Histrionic behavior is one of the main assets in the SLE pressure tool box, it is the perfect tactic to make other people walk on eggshells, so that they themselves end up with the long end of the stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Wrong. Dead wrong! Histrionic behavior is one of the main assets in the SLE pressure tool box, it is the perfect tactic to make other people walk on eggshells, so that they themselves end up with the long end of the stick.
    Sounds more like emotional hysterics (EIE)

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    Diego Maradona - ESTP Zhukov (Not EIE )



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    SLEs tend to put on a serious face and deepen their voice when they want to cause 'an impression'. They seem to want to impose some degree of distance between themselves and others or be 'respected'.

    They also can give curt replies or behave in a way that doesn't take into account other people's feelings. It comes with no apparent reason so it looks as if they are trying to make a point (it can seem, from the outside, that they suddenly hate the other person or found a reason to be rude no one ca decipher because the behaviour is so ridiculous).


    They can be histrionic. If the observer squints, he will see they tend to do it people who pose no threat in reality. They are much more demure and friendly with people they consider to be of their own status or higher. This last bit sounds like EIE but SLE also do it up to a point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Sounds more like emotional hysterics (EIE)
    No, with EIEs it's a form of either neurotic or outright pathological behavior. SLEs use it in a very tactic and purposeful way. You can tell the difference quite easily: the 'hysteria' in an SLE will be short-lived and they will have forgotten their own outburst within 5 minutes, carrying on as if nothing has happened, whereas in EIEs the hysteria will simmer on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    in this conference video he doesn't recognice a german soccer player so he leaves the podium as if he doesn't want to sit beside someone who is beneath him.
    Well, that's a somewhat un-IEI thing to do. A weird typing for him even coming from you. Walking into spaces like he owned the place. That's another. Let's see what else.

    Shooting at people with a bb gun.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yabvpOb7Mfk

    Repeatedly hitting journos, fans, getting into brawls, being sued for bashing a glass bottle against a woman's head, etc.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTskxdWoERM

    Hitting his romantic partners and getting charged with it multiple times.
    'Es cierto que me golpeaba, pasó muchas veces, una vez me sacó del comedor a empujones, me metió en el auto y me agarró de los pelos cuando llegamos a la casa.'

    https://ar.marca.com/claro/trending/...3288b4581.html

    Trying to curb one of his girlfriend's university career path. IEIs are more ‘live and let live’ creatures.
    'Es verdad que dejé de estudiar porque Maradona no quería una novia universitaria.'

    https://ar.marca.com/claro/trending/...3288b4581.html


    Killing animals for sport
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/arc-wordpre...adona-caza.jpg


    Dancing uninhibitedly and lasciviously in front of a camera.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKERx6iP9eE


    Surrounding himself with his court/cohort of 'bros' to go out every night




    Wearing garish, peacock style of clothes and marks of prestige: hard-to-miss branding, tasteless jewelry, lion/tigers prints that IEIs would avoid (no psychological connection with the image of a pouncing, threatening animal)










    He's too emotionally bright for Ti creative, so I'm seeing maybe more SEE for him for the time being.




    Overall a rather disgusting human being.


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    I honestly don't understand what you want me to do with those pictures.

    Meet Santiago Cuneo.


    One of the weirdest characters in alternative media down here. The most foul-mouthed tv host. A large part of his segments are made of explicit language, threats, screaming in an intimidating voice. The guy's a sewer. This is a normal day in his show:




    He's known for his short fuse and threatening everyone with violence. Because he has anger issues. He likes guns and military paraphernalia:






    He's preparing to issue a threat to someone here, obviously. A normal day on the job. This gentleman does not ‘adapt to his interlocutor’ nor does he avoid imposing himself, I can tell you that:




    He's meme material even: the fascist cusser they call him.




    A few years back at a political rally for 'workers rights'.





    And, of course, the over-sized jewelry and naked torso.




    A Se lead. SLE is very likley. I know a female version of him. And I'm sorry for the extreme caricature of his type. But guys like him are out there.

    However, he took pictures with a gigantic Chávez and supports the Venezuelan government quite vocally. Am I supposed to type him IEI now?





    Don't read too much into those pictures you found. In my apart of the world, they actually might not mean what you think. It's still a nice set of pictures you have of Maradona.

    Here's mine.
    Him with LSI dictator Jorge Videla
    Him with right-winger, privatizer of previously state-run companies President Menem
    Another one looking very happy with Menem
    And another one
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    Idk but I don't think this guy was SEE. His style of smiling and laughing feel like Fe valuer. I rather say Mike Tyson or Ronaldo 7 feel more SEE than him.

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