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    Dear SEI,

    Do you like solving things or observing things in cause and effect manner?

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    SEI are dialectials. They are demon haunted artists. Thesis/Antithesis/Synthesis (I am not SEI... just reading the discription.)
     
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    I don't understand this dialectics business, someone pls explain.

    woofwoofl: Causal-Deterministic logic is sequential and positivist, in such a way that it doesn't branch out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Do you like solving things or observing things in cause and effect manner?
    Give me an example I can imagine and I'll answer from my behalf.
    "Use every ounce of potential you have, raise revolution against what people expect of you, and tell the world this is not a rehearsal. This is the real me. And listen up, ‘cause it could be the most honest incarnation yet."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I don't understand this dialectics business, someone pls explain.
    In short: A trend/idea (known as thesis) arises/manifests/is, opposition (antithesis) arises, the result (synthesis) is the combination of the latter two.

    Aivo and I constantly observe this pattern ime.

    It's also easily attached to Daoist philosophies.
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    I think cause and effect is the easiest way to study things. If then, then that. Exceptions are bothersome
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    Quote Originally Posted by aivonua nainini View Post
    Give me an example I can imagine and I'll answer from my behalf.
    for example, you care and follow politics; a politician wants to pass a law curtailing abortion rights for women; do you begin to imagine why and how this person came to such a conclusion or not. If you're asked "why does this person want to do this?" what fashion does your explanation follow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    for example, you care and follow politics; a politician wants to pass a law curtailing abortion rights for women; do you begin to imagine why and how this person came to such a conclusion or not.
    I can easily see why people come to such conclusions even if I don't relate to them on a personal level or accept their views or values. However, this might result from my long-term commitment to perceiving and understanding different views and reality tunnels. I like to play with the thought because it broadens my views, makes it easier to understand (and forgive) and gives me weapons against the people who I feel are harming their surroundings, but like said, I'm not sure if it's type related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Aivo and I constantly observe this pattern ime.
    Tell more about this, will you – because I don't know what you're talking about. Give examples! What am I doing? Eh eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aivonua nainini View Post
    Tell more about this, will you – because I don't know what you're talking about. Give examples! What am I doing? Eh eh?
    I talked about mistakes and you questioned what is the essence of mistake seeing the world as a dynamic learning experience where people should be making mistakes in order to succeed eventually.

    I think you see world as self-regulating and you can discern that states of affairs seek balance and harmony through extremities and polarities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    I talked about mistakes and you questioned what is the essence of mistake seeing the world as a dynamic learning experience where people should be making mistakes in order to succeed eventually.
    Oh, super. Now I see. I love it when you know exactly how to explain things to me. I'm such a tool sometimes.
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    Bitchez love Ti.
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    Aww yea, baby. Give iT to me. Pound that hard white logic between my big juicy hemispheres. YOU BLOW MY MIND.
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    As long as I can have your pitch black ethics in return, doll.
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    From the dealings I've had with my roommate, they are curious creatures that like to know how things work. This alludes more to the inner workings of such things however, not so much the cause-effect relationship. The self-valorization of "common decency" usually overrides any consideration of palpable outcomes which more than once lands them into situations or relationships with bad outcomes but cannot break them. But I think this can be said of all creatives.
    "We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.".

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