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    Seeing as EII is the type that sort of most readily wants to not offend anyone, how readily do you swear around people you've just met? If you are (or know) an EII do they sort of get a feel for a person before they drop some cuss words, or if they are a person who does cuss do they do it whenever they feel?

    Or do you know EIIs who don't have a problem at all with foul language but tend not to use it themselves?

    What are your experiences and opinions?
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    Not very readily at all. I don't even around ppl I love and am comfortable with; I will say "shit" when something goes wrong. I can't imagine an EII being comfortable with cursing.

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    Fuck yo couch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Fuck yo couch!
    huh?

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    My EII sister would NEVER use even slightly coarse language.

    I have an EII neighbor I've never heard swear, but I don't know if she has an issue with it like my sister.

    Another EII friend - I don't think I've heard her swear either.

    I don't think this is an absolute but they are probably less likely to use coarse language than the average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    My EII sister would NEVER use even slightly coarse language.

    I have an EII neighbor I've never heard swear, but I don't know if she has an issue with it like my sister.

    Another EII friend - I don't think I've heard her swear either.

    I don't think this is an absolute but they are probably less likely to use coarse language than the average.
    How coarse is coarse in your experiences with these people? Are the 'lighter' words acceptable like bitch or ass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    huh?
    Sorry maritsa. It's a metaphor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Fuck yo couch!
    Was Rick James EII? That would be a whole new level of hilarious for that joke. Then it turns from him being an asshole from him making an Si-valuing assessment of an uncomfortable couch and working to make sure that the problem is rectified... by destroying the couch.

    It makes perfect sense you see.
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    Sometimes I do readily want to offend others. I don't think being Fi base means you'll always be rainbows and sunshine, it just means you pay attention to and understand what you could say to offend or not offend others. That's sort of an upper-hand in communication, I think, in some ways. Anyway, sometimes I say shit for the sole purpose of pissing people off and I might do it because I don't like them, or I think the things they say are dumb.

    My candid use of language is often speckled with colourful metaphors involving sexual acts and/or genitalia, but I'm wary of whom I'm speaking to and I wouldn't do it in front of people get hung up on certain words, or flinch at the graphic imagery. It doesn't mean I like it that way, though, I'm never comfortable with those people and we'd never go past being formal. I'm comfortable around people who are okay with me swearing my head off.

    I know INFjs who would never swear though, and while they look adorable and meek and harmless, they have an undercurrent of bigotry and hatred for people not doing things the "right way", having this judgmental streak against people who don't love humanity the right way or who laugh at dark humour and so forth. I think, among many other things, this is one of the biggest weaknesses native to INFjs.

    Out of the ones I know, there are IXFjs who are cool with pretty much everything but they don't swear themselves or don't prefer that sort of language, though they aren't pedantic about it. I know another INFj who swears as much as I do, but it's more ironic and not-really-taking-oneself-seriously kind of way. I don't know any INFjs who would dump swear words without consideration, though, there's always a testing period where they try to get a feel for what the other person is like before opening up. IME, anyway.

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    I swear a lot, just not usually in front of other people. I have a bad habit of dropping cluster F-bombs when aggravated.

    Edit: I have surprised a couple of people by swearing. It's probably somewhere in-between my religion and coming off like such a sweet kid.
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    They could never!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    They could never!
    *flips him off*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis View Post
    *flips him off*
    Wait, you said "him"? Oh. I don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Wait, you said "him"? Oh. I don't get it.
    It was directed at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis View Post
    It was directed at you.
    Yes, I do have a penis and she doesn't, hence the "him", not the "her". I deduced it that far. And I guessed I figured it the rest of it.
    Maybe I just find it confusing sometimes when people 'attack' (in the wide sense of the term) obvious troll-ish facades I put on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Yes, I do have a penis and she doesn't, hence the "him", not the "her". I deduced it that far. And I guessed I figured it the rest of it.
    Maybe I just find it confusing sometimes when people 'attack' (in the wide sense of the term) obvious troll-ish facades I put on.
    Ah. An ironic "fuck you" isn't really my style, so I settled for flipping you off instead. No malice here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Yes, I do have a penis and she doesn't, hence the "him", not the "her". I deduced it that far. And I guessed I figured it the rest of it.
    Maybe I just find it confusing sometimes when people 'attack' (in the wide sense of the term) obvious troll-ish facades I put on.
    I always get a kick out of it when people make jokes and then don't get the ones that are made in response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    Seeing as EII is the type that sort of most readily wants to not offend anyone, how readily do you swear around people you've just met? If you are (or know) an EII do they sort of get a feel for a person before they drop some cuss words, or if they are a person who does cuss do they do it whenever they feel?

    Or do you know EIIs who don't have a problem at all with foul language but tend not to use it themselves?

    What are your experiences and opinions?
    I know 15 EIIs and they don't swear. I know 17 LSEs as well, including me, and they don't swear as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    I always get a kick out of it when people make jokes and then don't get the ones that are made in response.
    You'd enjoy my company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    You'd enjoy my company.
    I actually came to that conclusion well before this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    I actually came to that conclusion well before this thread.
    I knew it! The feeling is mutual.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis View Post
    Ah. An ironic "fuck you" isn't really my style, so I settled for flipping you off instead. No malice here.
    You didn't like to say "fuck you" because that would have been swearing!


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    my current favourite swear word is shitcocks, closely followed by cuntface and dickbags.

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    I will permanently ignore anyone who calls me a B or a C word. -My morality; everyone else should too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I will permanently ignore anyone who calls me a B or a C word. -My morality; everyone else should too.
    oh that's funny, i've seen you call at least two women "bitch" on this forum, you filthy fucking hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    oh that's funny, i've seen you call at least two women "bitch" on this forum, you filthy fucking hypocrite.
    Really? who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    oh that's funny, i've seen you call at least two women "bitch" on this forum, you filthy fucking hypocrite.
    Don't forget this one:

    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    LOOK AT IT YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
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    I once playfully called a half-palestinian ESI friend sandnigger just because I knew she'd find it incomprehensibly horrible and I wanted to see the look on her face. She's such an emo, always talking about the non-existent racism she has to deal with and how some old lady from her house always looks at her in a bad way "clearly because she's different", even though she looks just as Finnish as everyone else here and no one would ever guess she has roots somewhere else if she just kept quiet about it. I found it amusing that she didn't talk to me for two weeks..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    oh that's funny, i've seen you call at least two women "bitch" on this forum, you filthy fucking hypocrite.
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    Now Maritsa can tell us how different it is to swear using bitch/cunt vs. piece of shit when talking about a human being.
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    I did say I called people SHIT. I can't tolerate their stupidity sometimes especially when extended to oblivion, with no help.

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    People with the same type are not going to be identical in any way so they'll have indivdual ways their IEs show up in them, and in particular Fi is very subjective.

    I do think there is probably less swearing on average among EIIs than most other types, but it's just a difference of where the average is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Really? who?
    Ver was one of them.
    There has been at least one other than me and her, though. I just can,t remember at the moment who/when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I did say I called people SHIT. I can't tolerate their stupidity sometimes especially when extended to oblivion, with no help.
    May I suggest, then, that you avoid looking in the mirror...

    Oh, and maybe have your sister start reviewing and editing your writings for you again.

    Edited to add:
    Oh, and you lied in this thread. You didn,t admit to calling people shit until I pulled up your quote. What you had said earlier in this thread was:
    Not very readily at all. I don't even around ppl I love and am comfortable with; I will say "shit" when something goes wrong. I can't imagine an EII being comfortable with cursing.
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    Dig all you can about me out of jealousy, spite, out of the need to control to possess, to criticize to lust over and to anger and rage for the madness in you which you or no one else can EVER control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Dig all you can about me out of jealousy, spite, out of the need to control to possess, to criticize to lust over and to anger and rage for the madness in you which you or no one else can EVER control.
    You are nothing worth possessing, nothing worth controlling, and nothing worth lusting over.
    You have nothing worth being jealous of, either.

    Except to yourself.
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    Say that to yourself and keep repeating and that will help you in dealing with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    People with the same type are not going to be identical in any way so they'll have indivdual ways their IEs show up in them, and in particular Fi is very subjective.

    I do think there is probably less swearing on average among EIIs than most other types, but it's just a difference of where the average is.
    I know what you mean and I don't want to sound semantic but when categorizing people.. ain't it almost always about what the difference in average? About only, mostly minor, correlations? If you want to single out what types do, their external activities are always varying in degrees, every type does X, and it's only a matter of how much and how does the type - often - do it.
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    I did say I called people SHIT. I can't tolerate their stupidity sometimes especially when extended to oblivion, with no help.
    So it's okay to call people shit if they are dealing with the immense burden that is being intolerantly stupid.. ..AS FAR as you don't call them as cunt or bitch.

    I'll shut up and go back to spectating if this turns to Delta NF battleground.
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