Galen's Type As Of May 24th 2012

[Galen]

I know I made a self-type thread not too long ago but nobody took it seriously.
plus everybody else was doing it so

do eet

EDIT: merry 5,555th post, one and all

[Pa3s]

Definitely Delta NF and probably also IEE.

But I have to agree with jessica that your focus on Fi is kinda suspicous and it might surpass pure subtype affinity.

[ashlesha]

yeah I mean I accept IEE but I don't know why you couldn't be especially since your focus is so Go heavy and you take such issue with ep temperament.

(add an EII in that sentence and change go to fi stupid phone)

[krieger]

i've never thought you come across as particularly IEE ish, but i'm not sure what else to suggest. probably something introverted based on what little transfers to me through the wires.

i'd probably still go with IEE when forced to choose, though.

[Suz]

you and i are a lot alike Galen, but I could potentially see you as EII...

Then again, apparently a lot of gurus here think i'm Ne-sub, and if you're Fi-sub that could explain the slightly different demeanors.

[Gilly]

WHY DOES GOOGLE RETURN NO IMAGES OF FLAMING SHEEP

DISAPPOINT

[jessica129]

Then again, apparently a lot of gurus here think i'm Ne-sub, and if you're Fi-sub that could explain the slightly different demeanors.

I was actually thinking it was very obvious it was the other way around.


one of these days i swear i'm just going to give up.

[Gilly]

I was actually thinking it was very obvious it was the other way around.


one of these days i swear i'm just going to give up.

Well keep in mind Work is a female, and Galen is a skinny Japanophile white boy from San Francisco.

I think Galen seems more relaxed, self-contained, and deliberate, whereas Work seems a little flighty and is more expressive and interactive.

[Slacker]

As I said in other thread, IEE is my first choice for you, EII second if you aren't IEE.

[Suz]

I was actually thinking it was very obvious it was the other way around.


one of these days i swear i'm just going to give up.

No dont give up... tell me why you think so, because i'm not sure myself... Some say i'm Fi-sub, others say i'm Ne-sub. You might be the correct one!

[Suz]

Well keep in mind Work is a female, and Galen is a skinny Japanophile white boy from San Francisco.

I think Galen seems more relaxed, self-contained, and deliberate, whereas Work seems a little flighty and is more expressive and interactive.

That's a reasonable assessment, actually...

[Gilly]

Why do you sound surprised

[Suz]

Why do you sound surprised

well sometimes u try to be inflammatory but in this case you werent...

[Gilly]

I'm not always even trying to be inflammatory, lol, I think I just go for the big shit so it usually erupts in some way

[Gilly]

On the other hand, whatever we expect, we are asking for, so...

SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Suz]

lol... and there it is...

[Gilly]

Idk, to me your avatar says it all, lol...you are pretty clearly peak Si/Ne valuing, IMO. Galen doesn't mind conflict so much, he is a bit of an artful dodger but he doesn't really get flustered when people use strong language and such, this is one of the things that weirds me about about peak Fi/Te people, it's like some things don't phase them in this more deadening kind of way, whereas you don't seem Fe valuing, but are a little more...maneuverable, I guess, from an emotional standpoint, in interaction.

[fen]

It is no longer May 24th, 2012. Does that mean your type as of today is potentially different?

[Slacker]

It is no longer May 24th, 2012. Does that mean your type as of today is potentially different?

LOL

[Park]

Galen doesn't mind conflict so much, he is a bit of an artful dodger but he doesn't really get flustered when people use strong language and such, this is one of the things that weirds me about about peak Fi/Te people, it's like some things don't phase them in this more deadening kind of way

Heh. Great observation. Something along those lines happened today when I was telling this manager how he shouldn't give a shit if people attack and distrust him verbally, as long as he is confident in his integrity and the things his employees might assume and/or say about/to him present no actual danger. He was surprised at how indifferent I can be about certain things and very sensitive about others. He thinks I have my priorities a little messed up, but I think he's a little unwilling to admit that I just have a different way of looking at things. And that my approach is more rational and usually yields better results in practice than his version of fairness and appropriatness.

[Galen]

Looks like the cogs in the internet machine have been spinning rapidly as I slept~

yeah I mean I accept IEE but I don't know why you couldn't be especially since your focus is so Go heavy and you take such issue with ep temperament.

(add an EII in that sentence and change go to fi stupid phone)

My issue is more that most EP descriptions out there do a really shitty job at conveying the many possible facets of EPhood, so it was kinda hard for me to identify with EP when accusations of ENXp started getting thrown around. In terms of energy fluctuations though, I think I'm very much irrational.

Well keep in mind Work is a female, and Galen is a skinny Japanophile white boy from San Francisco.

I think Galen seems more relaxed, self-contained, and deliberate, whereas Work seems a little flighty and is more expressive and interactive.

Good to see that these things are mutually exclusive lol

I do agree that WA is more overtly expressive and flighty than me. And to the best of my knowledge, I'm the only IEE 6w5 on here, which probably colors my affect and presentation in ways uncharacteristic for most people's conceptions of IEEs.

It is no longer May 24th, 2012. Does that mean your type as of today is potentially different?

You tell me

[Radio]

I've always found a certain familiarity in your posts, the things you say sound like things I would say if I was less neurotic and wasn't straining to pull myself out of my comfort zone, which is not to say you're stilted or anything, just that you seem comfortable in your own skin.

I think you're definitely Fi ego, and despite keeping a certain ironic distance you have been instantly very personable on irc, which is cool.

I dont think your brand of Ne is INFj-centric and while ENFp wouldn't be the first type that comes to mind, it fits a lot better than Ne-creative which i think is more detached and self-contained. You seem to have a harder time dissociating from your environment and seem at ease describing things outside of yourself which is a more extroverted trait in my mind.

You are kind of similar, I think, to Slacker in that you are both often very passionate and have a bit more flair than other delta NFs. So I think Fi-ENFp 6w5 sx/sp is a fine typing.

[Absurd]

Galen Retriever.

[Radio]

i cant seem to edit my post so pretend i said something eloquent and with a lot less "i think"s and fewer run-on sentences.

[Galen]

i cant seem to edit my post so pretend i said something eloquent and with a lot less "i think"s and fewer run-on sentences.

But I love intellectual self-effacement and extended grammatical constructs, I do them all the time

I kinda find that with Ne-valuing rationals, their use of Ne is very consciously manipulated. It's as if they meticulously choose the right quip to bring up specific to the situation they're presenting, as opposed to the idea being spontaneously generated out of the aether. My Ne-HA dad does things like this a lot, except he does it with terrible (note: terrible) puns.

[strangeling]

edited for blah.

[Galen]

I've always found a certain familiarity in your posts, the things you say sound like things I would say if I was less neurotic and wasn't straining to pull myself out of my comfort zone, which is not to say you're stilted or anything, just that you seem comfortable in your own skin.

I get this from you too, I find that we both focus on similar things in people and come to similar conclusions because of it. Thinking in landscapes, etc.

I think you're definitely Fi ego, and despite keeping a certain ironic distance you have been instantly very personable on irc, which is cool.

I would like to imagine that the distance is a product of my internet upbringing, on a forum where there are no feelings and everything is sarcasm all the time. Still, being positive and playful is kind of a drain on me when it's all over, and I'd much rather be able to just sit with somebody and talk about our lives without the pressure of having to emote or intellectualize my feelings.

I dont think your brand of Ne is INFj-centric and while ENFp wouldn't be the first type that comes to mind, it fits a lot better than Ne-creative which i think is more detached and self-contained.

ftr, what would be the first type to come to mind?

You seem to have a harder time dissociating from your environment and seem at ease describing things outside of yourself which is a more extroverted trait in my mind.

Interesting; I've always felt like I talk about myself too much.

I think once you told me that you didn't read half of my post, as if to suggest the opposite of the quote. You're also pretty hyper-critical about what people say. I'm guessing you don't mean in this forum, but in your ....Cpig calls it...meatspace?

Which post was this?

I'm generally most critical of what people say when they aren't expressing their ideas in as precise a manner as possible, getting awash in generalizations instead of detailing their words carefully ("weak" Te-valuing mayhaps).

[Radio]

ftr, what would be the first type to come to mind?

idk isfp, just based on vibe. but like i said, upon closer inspection/on irc you come off as fi-ego and (maybe) extroverted so enfp fits the most out of the two.

[willekeurig]

I was actually thinking it was very obvious it was the other way around.

Yeah, me too.

[Pa3s]

At least quadra-wise, I think it's fair to say that Delta is your home planet. If not, I'd have to think about what Delta actually is. I can see the similarities between you and Radio, too. For example your sense of humour. Fi over Fe is obvious, as other people stated before... yeah, you do like your Fi. Maybe you hate Fe?

I think I have read it before in a recent thread, but ever thought of SLI?

[Park]

Gosh, I say so many stupid and irrelevant things when I post before going to bed, lol.

[Gilly]

Looks like the cogs in the internet machine have been spinning rapidly as I slept~


My issue is more that most EP descriptions out there do a really shitty job at conveying the many possible facets of EPhood, so it was kinda hard for me to identify with EP when accusations of ENXp started getting thrown around. In terms of energy fluctuations though, I think I'm very much irrational.


Good to see that these things are mutually exclusive lol

I do agree that WA is more overtly expressive and flighty than me. And to the best of my knowledge, I'm the only IEE 6w5 on here, which probably colors my affect and presentation in ways uncharacteristic for most people's conceptions of IEEs.



You tell me

lol they aren't exclusive, I just couldn't think of as many things to say about her.

[Saberstorm]

.Constructivists (Types with accepting F and producing T):
2.For the constructivist emotional "anchors" are important (Connected to a certain place, a book, a film and so on) which resonate with their internal emotional conditions. With their help they keep or strengthen their internal emotional state. They are inclined to re-reed a book or to visit the same place again just to go through the emotions connected with that place.
3.They can get "emotionally hooked", they can feel strong experience regardless of whether they like the overall moment (For example, they hate the film but love a scene from it that always makes them laugh, or cry and so on)

First off, Galen seems to be the poster boy for "constructivism" - he has so many emotional anchors they seem to define him as a person. We all know about his fixation on the Disney movie (Lion King) and he is strongly anchored emotionally to Japan, and even then, he is anchored to a special night in Japan when he had an important epiphany. He is anchored to particular dishes of Japanease food. That is not a Reinin trait found in the IEE. No, it is found in the EII and EIEs.

I consider Galen to be my "supervisor" - whatever type I am, it is the type Galen (and Radio) supervises. If I am what Radio claims (a "milquetoast" Ti-ILE) then Galen should be a EII, supervising his ILE.

Furthermore, the fact that he is "re-imagining" the EP temperment is evidence that something is amiss in his self typing. You should not have to produce a "revisionist" interpetation of a temperment to make it fit. He is attempting to hammer his IP temperment into a place it does not belong.

[Suz]

Gosh, I say so many stupid and irrelevant things when I post before going to bed, lol.

ditto... sometimes when i encounter old posts of mine I'm like

[Suz]

Idk, to me your avatar says it all, lol...you are pretty clearly peak Si/Ne valuing, IMO. Galen doesn't mind conflict so much, he is a bit of an artful dodger but he doesn't really get flustered when people use strong language and such, this is one of the things that weirds me about about peak Fi/Te people, it's like some things don't phase them in this more deadening kind of way, whereas you don't seem Fe valuing, but are a little more...maneuverable, I guess, from an emotional standpoint, in interaction.

Sorry i missed this post for a while... r u talking to me, @Gilly?

Oh and yeah i noticed those differences between myself and Galen too..

what do you mean by "peak" if I may ask?

[Galen]

First off, Galen seems to be the poster boy for "constructivism" - he has so many emotional anchors they seem to define him as a person. We all know about his fixation on the Disney movie (Lion King) and he is strongly anchored emotionally to Japan, and even then, he is anchored to a special night in Japan when he had an important epiphany. He is anchored to particular dishes of Japanease food. That is not a Reinin trait found in the IEE. No, it is found in the EII and EIEs.

This is actually a pretty good point, I do have influential emotional anchors and relate to constructivism much more on that basis. I'd like to see what other types have to say about themselves on the matter though, nor do I think that one single reinin dichotomy being off is cause enough for a type change.

I consider Galen to be my "supervisor" - whatever type I am, it is the type Galen (and Radio) supervises. If I am what Radio claims (a "milquetoast" Ti-ILE) then Galen should be a EII, supervising his ILE.

You come off as sx-last to me, which might play a part in what you perceive as supervision. Take from that what you will, I suppose.

Furthermore, the fact that he is "re-imagining" the EP temperment is evidence that something is amiss in his self typing. You should not have to produce a "revisionist" interpetation of a temperment to make it fit. He is attempting to hammer his IP temperment into a place it does not belong.

I relate much more to EP in terms of overall energy levels and vacillations, but not for the described spontaneity they're said to exhibit. I attribute this to being sx/sp + ultra-grand-master-Fi-supreme subtype. You are right though, I shouldn't have to abstract the temperament definitions so far down in order to relate to them.

[Saberstorm]

You pursue the enneagram with great depth. I barely follow it, sx-last?

[Galen]

You pursue the enneagram with great depth. I barely follow it, sx-last?

Here's a pretty good resource for instinct stacking: http://ocean-moonshine.net/e14285736...position=55:55

When the sexual instinct is least developed, the personality can lack a certain charisma and momentum. Such personalities often do not form truly intimate relationships, as they don’t feel driven to do so; consequently, their personal relationships can suffer from a lack of attention. As there are aspects of ourselves which we can only see when in close relationship to others, those whose sexual instinct remains undeveloped might find it difficult to cultivate some forms of self-awareness.

I would say there's a certain stilted, awkward nature to the way you interact with people on here.

[Gilly]

Sorry i missed this post for a while... r u talking to me, @Gilly?

Oh and yeah i noticed those differences between myself and Galen too..

what do you mean by "peak" if I may ask?

Well for example ExI-Fi and LxE-Te would be peak Fi/Te valuing; it's just a term I use to categorize types by the degrees to which they value a function. So Galen is IEE-Fi, which means he is closer to peak Fi/Te valuing than you.

[Suz]

Well for example ExI-Fi and LxE-Te would be peak Fi/Te valuing; it's just a term I use to categorize types by the degrees to which they value a function. So Galen is IEE-Fi, which means he is closer to peak Fi/Te valuing than you.

Interesting, so you think i'm Ne-IEE too then? You're like the 3rd person to have mentioned this to me lately... Looks like i have to adjust my sig then...