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  • SEI (ISFp)

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  • ESE (ESFj)

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    Type her plz. I know a few people who look just like her.




     















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    I spend a lot of time building teams at both businesses - both The Trump Organization and my own - and thinking about who to hire to supplement the team and allow us to best achieve our goals.

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    If you ask me, there's nothing more incredible than a woman who's in charge of her own destiny - and working daily to make her dreams a reality.

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    I hope she is a gamma SF.
     
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    Te-LIE reminds me a hell of a lot of a Te-LIE girl I know too haha...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor View Post
    Smilingeyes has her down as ENFj.
    is there a place i can see Smilingeyes' typelist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    I hope she is a gamma SF.
    you are a milquetoast ti-entp not gamma.nt of any sort.

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    Thanks Trev!

    Yeah i agree with a lot of Smilingeyes' typings (i've seen a few of the seasons of The Apprentice that he analyzed) but may have been off on a few of the typings... he typed Donald Trump ILE, whereas I think he's a resounding SLE benchmark. Still not sure about Ivanka... i guess ENFj vs ENTj isn't THAT different... same HA, same POLR, both Ej.
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    she has such a tiny nose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diam0nd View Post
    she has such a tiny nose!
    her face freaks me out to be honest with you..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    I hope she is a gamma SF.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    SEE
    Hehe.

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    Now, I understand that some human beings don't have the ability to make comparisons of physiological nature and that might be ok, I guess, so I am going to post a picture of an SLE female, Mila Jovovich and give you the reasons why she is SLE; unlike Evanka, Milla has deeper eye sockets, has a flat and broader forehead...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    unlike Evanka, Milla has deeper eye sockets, has a flat and broader forehead...
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    I know but it's a good comparison. I made the mistake of seeing what I wanted to see and I made a mistake; sorry.

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    ESFJ
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
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    Yeah, sounds right.

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    Nice editing skills there, Maritsa

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    I wasn't sure about ESE or SEE, but Sol made me revisit the possibility and I got some more photos and I think it's an accurate typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I wasn't sure about ESE or SEE, but Sol made me revisit the possibility and I got some more photos and I think it's an accurate typing.
    Oh, cool then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Now, I understand that some human beings don't have the ability to make comparisons of physiological nature and that might be ok, I guess, so I am going to post a picture of an SLE female, Mila Jovovich and give you the reasons why she is SLE; unlike Evanka, Milla has deeper eye sockets, has a flat and broader forehead...

    lol, again with the weird physiognomy..
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    Bump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Now, I understand that some human beings don't have the ability to make comparisons of physiological nature and that might be ok, I guess, so I am going to post a picture of an SLE female, Mila Jovovich and give you the reasons why she is SLE; unlike Evanka, Milla has deeper eye sockets, has a flat and broader forehead...

    Visual Identification like this is a pseudoscience and actually rather lazy. Instead of looking at someone's personality, you are instead assuming what they are like internally based on facial characteristics. It doesn't even begin to analyse the person.

    Do you ever ask yourself... "what if an EII were to have these eye sockets?" You might have to respond "but EII by definition is someone who doesn't have these eye sockets". At which point, Socionics ceases to be about personality, and becomes just a face-classification system, with no established, empirically supported link to personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Oliver Aaron View Post
    Visual Identification like this is a pseudoscience and actually rather lazy. Instead of looking at someone's personality, you are instead assuming what they are like internally based on facial characteristics. It doesn't even begin to analyse the person.

    Do you ever ask yourself... "what if an EII were to have these eye sockets?" You might have to respond "but EII by definition is someone who doesn't have these eye sockets". At which point, Socionics ceases to be about personality, and becomes just a face-classification system, with no established, empirically supported link to personality.
    Annnddd we are back to this again lol. I don't see why VI can't just be viewed as just another tool in the tool toolbox rather then some all encompassing system that must either be 100% correct or total bullshit. There are undeniable correlations between a types and their appearances and this has been stated many many times. I would agree though that when you are looking to get the most accurate typing possible aka professional typing it is best to always to do a full personality analysis and VI would be mostly irrelevant in such cases, although it could still help narrow things down faster. VI is best used intuitively for casual day-to-day typing where there isn't time to look up some dude's life history and it isn't the end of the world if there is a 1% chance of being wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddytextures View Post
    Annnddd we are back to this again lol. I don't see why VI can't just be viewed as just another tool in the tool toolbox rather then some all encompassing system that must either be 100% correct or total bullshit. There are undeniable correlations between a types and their appearances and this has been stated many many times. I would agree though that when you are looking to get the most accurate typing possible aka professional typing it is best to always to do a full personality analysis and VI would be mostly irrelevant in such cases, although it could still help narrow things down faster. VI is best used intuitively for casual day-to-day typing where there isn't time to look up some dude's life history and it isn't the end of the world if there is a 1% chance of being wrong.
    I preclude by saying 'visual identification like this'. The object of my harsh criticism is Maritsa's discipline of VI, whereby the facial structure is taken as all that matters in typing, and where a person's behaviour and expressed motivations are ignored.

    I would not say that anecdotal visual cues should not be allowed to help inform one's typing, as these hunches and trends are all part of what makes experienced socionists better at intuiting what type a person is likely to be from little concrete data. However, the danger lies in coming to rely on it at the expense of the data available on personality, which will almost certainly lead a person astray.

    Now you give the example of there being a 1% chance someone is wrong. On the contrary, 1% chance of error is very good, even for the more comprehensive look at personality. My wildest dreams would have a system where inaccuracy is reduced to this amount. Instead, I would guess that the use of VI, at least by someone experienced who developed their hunches of VI from initially typing people the conventional way, is likely a little bit above chance, maybe 80% likelihood of failure, rather than 95.75%. This all is quite a bit above the magic number of 49.99% chance of failure, which is when such a method becomes more helpful than a hindrance.

    This is just a guess though. There is no body of evidence to tell us exactly what the actual percentage of VI accuracy is, and even then, it'll vary from person to person and school to school. However, if my estimate is at all near to being correct, it would be worse to use just VI than not using VI at all.
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    LIE most likely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor View Post
    Smilingeyes has her down as ENFj.
    Watching her more these days as I follow the 2016 Presidential race. I am currently in agreement with this typing. That, or ESE, but EIE>>ESE I think. I guess IEI could also be possible too. And she's incredibly wise & diplomatic. She is the one who needs to be running for President. I have a lot of respect for her.
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    Peaked in her late 20's, imo.




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    Her dad would date her if...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Willyum Take4 View Post
    Does that REALLY bother you, or are you just jumping on the bandwagon? He was trying to give his daughter a compliment. For the vast majority of his life, being a successful multi-millionaire, he's had many women who would want him to date them. He was saying his daughter takes good care of her body, is desirable by successful men, and she is a successful businesswoman in her own right. I know it's a bit awkwardly phrased because people wonder if he desired to actually date his daughter, but I think he just means 'she's the type of woman I would date', successful/model/intelligent. Is it really that big of a deal?
    No bandwagon I found it creepy and he has said it several times that I have posted in other threads. I have heard others say the same about their own mothers and found it less creepy. Can't help that I find him creepy. It's nothing personal toward your preferences. I know you admire him or something from your posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willyum Take4 View Post
    He was trying to give his daughter a compliment.
    Trump is idiot and criminal. Similar to Bush-jr.
    It's shame that USA have such clowns in politics with meaningful support. The evidence of decay of nation, civic consciousness and democracy. At first politics was made a show where people decide really nothing, while Trump is the next step, - the show for idiots. Clinton's woman have no much difference - psychopathic and stupid.
    Such people can't have real power and keep the state in good condition. So their existence in high politics not only discredit the word "democracy" but proves there are other people with real power in USA - the ones which were not chosen by nation to rule it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    According to Ashton his daughter Ivanka is IEI, and they've been happily dating for years.


    (On a serious note though, Ivanka is too perfect to be IEI. I would peg her as a rational type)
    Both Ivanka and Melania are very much rational types imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    According to Ashton his daughter Ivanka is IEI, and they've been happily dating for years.


    (On a serious note though, Ivanka is too perfect to be IEI. I would peg her as a rational type)
    I thought IEI(-ni) too, but then again, just based on a couple of times that I saw her.

    I think Ni can make you very rational, or at least give you a very developed mind. I see an IEI-Ni as a mixture of a mind and emotion type if that makes sense.

    btw do you mean rational as in Judgers, or as in NT types?

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    Um... Ivanka seems like a Gamma type. Maybe SEE...

    What she did to her brother and legos in her childhood sounds like Se (1:21~) :



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    i think his wife might be IEI


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    Tiffany - SEI

    Melania - IEI

    Ivanka - ESI

    Donald - SLE
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    Ivanka doesn't seem IEI at all...

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    None of the Trumps are IEI (nor EIE for that matter)...
    Most of the females seem to be Gamma SF.
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    Melania and Tiffany are ESI, and so is Ivanka most likely. IEI is very off for any of them.

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