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    Find me the quarta that has a shrine to Clausewitz, Machivelli, Adam Smith, Von Humboldt, Aristotle, Luther, and Johanthan Say. I'd be happy there. I also like Tolkien, the book of hours, and a few others.

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    I keep hearing comparisons between Unitarian Universalism and Delta, but there's probably a big cultural element playing a part too.

    Alpha can get My Little Pony: FIM
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    all of the mass effect universe is one big beta party.

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    Disney is a military industrial complex which designs social programming.

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    The Romantic movement consists almost entirely of Betas.

    Generally if you hang out with theater people for long enough (especially musical theater, I think), you'll find lots of betas. Director = SLE ("I like telling people what to do."), Stage Manager = LSI ("grumblegrumble why do I hang out with all these crazy people oh wait it's because they bring excitement and drama which I desperately\secretly crave without being able to create it for myself"), Actor = EIE ("I HAVE SO MANY FEELINGS TOO MANY FOR REAL LIFE SO I'M GOING TO EXPEND THEM ALL ON STAGE!!!!"), Writer = IEI ("I shall create a fantasy land because I'm not so much into the real world!")

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    The things that often get promoted in each quadra, that seem to kind of "make or break" you as one of them, are ridiculous. Like Betas boil down to being blowhards and fags who can't wipe their own asses. That's their shrine. Deltas give me a creepy Mormon vibe..mixed with the Disney thing. Gamma is "materialistic", I guess. With Alpha, you can switch out Delta's Disney infantilism with My Little Pony. I don't know how the more individualistic people keep a straight face. Quadra values must be the dumbest thing about socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stray View Post
    I don't know how the more individualistic people keep a straight face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stray View Post
    The things that often get promoted in each quadra, that seem to kind of "make or break" you as one of them, are ridiculous. Like Betas boil down to being blowhards and fags who can't wipe their own asses. That's their shrine. Deltas give me a creepy Mormon vibe..mixed with the Disney thing. Gamma is "materialistic", I guess. With Alpha, you can switch out Delta's Disney infantilism with My Little Pony. I don't know how the more individualistic people keep a straight face. Quadra values must be the dumbest thing about socionics.
    I'm pretty materialistic - doesn't make me gamma. Don't watch Disney - I leave things that are behind me behind me. I'm not a puff as well - so that rules out beta. My Little Pony gives me the creeps - alpha out of the way.

    As long those are quadra values or whatever it is called, I'm homeless.

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    I personally think quadra values make a lot of sense, but not as in "hurr, every Alpha worships ugly cartoon horses, derp" but more like similar goals in life, compatible philosophies and just a compareable mindset even though the individual types within the quadra are pretty different from each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    Generally if you hang out with theater people for long enough (especially musical theater, I think), you'll find lots of betas.
    That's what I call a nightmare come true. I'm afraid to open my fridge now.

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    So far this thread is atrocious and not what I was expecting. Make the "shrines" more abstract and less emotionally charged. Shrines should be places isolated from irrelevant things: Islands of collected symbols and metaphors, housing general themes. In other words, these shrines should not be existing places or things with a label already attached, but should be composed of neutral objects, whose proximation constitutes a new idea that parallels quadra values. At least that would be interesting.
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    Quadra capitals of the world:


    Alpha: Masdar City




    Beta: Welthauptstadt Germania




    Gamma: Manhatten




    Delta: Welwyn Garden City

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    all of the mass effect universe is one big beta party.
    SPOILERS!

    Not really. Most of the people I know who play this (my self included) play for the story telling about the bonds between the characters and don't give a fuck about the giant impending doom of the plot. So yeah, beta elements, but certainly not the only elements present or the only reasons that people play the game.

    Hell I played the first one trying to romance Tali the entire game only to find out I couldn't, then tried to romance Jack in the second since I was playing a paragon and the whole good guy fixing a broken woman was something I wanted to see played out only to find out that right when Jack wanted to consummate the relationship that Tali was back and I couldn't turn my back on my first love. That's just a loyalty thing, so I broke it off with Jack, went with Tali and then I quit playing ME3 as soon as I saw the photo of Tali's face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    Quadra capitals of the world:

    Delta: Welwyn Garden City

    I never thought I'd see Welwyn Garden City mentioned on this forum. Fairly good call, not really my kind of town, but definately more Delta in design and founding ideology... Do you know it well?

    I've always considered Milton Keynes (another English new town) to be oscillating between Alpha and Delta.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Keynes

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_...id_road_system
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    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    I never thought I'd see Welwyn Garden City mentioned on this forum. Fairly good call, not really my kind of town, but definately more Delta in design and founding ideology... Do you know it well?

    I've always considered Milton Keynes (another English new town) to be oscillating between Alpha and Delta.
    Thanks, I chose it mostly because it's a good example for the garden city movement which has some delta flavour to it, imho. I heard of Ebenezer Howard and his ideas at several occasions, but I don't know much about the individual cities themselves, besides the general philosophy. That includes Milton Keynes, even if I remember the name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    That's really pretty! I love how green everything is! And how the roads aren't all straight. They are curvy and meet at non-conventional places. I feel like if I went there, every street would be a verdant adventure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    Delta:
    What are those curves for on the bottom? I don't think Delta would make that. Looks pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    Thanks, I chose it mostly because it's a good example for the garden city movement which has some delta flavour to it, imho. I heard of Ebenezer Howard and his ideas at several occasions, but I don't know much about the individual cities themselves, besides the general philosophy. That includes Milton Keynes, even if I remember the name.
    Ah ok, I was just wondering as I live about 10km from WGC. Interesting, Howard is something of a local legend as both his Garden Cities are fairly nearby to me, I didn't really know that he was well known outside the area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    Interesting, Howard is something of a local legend as both his Garden Cities are fairly nearby to me, I didn't really know that he was well known outside the area.
    It's worth mentioning that I study city planning. And since I found Howard and Garden Cities pretty interesting, it got stuck in my head and appeared in some of my papers for college.
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    The shrine to Alpha Quadra is Central park, it represents equal access, free to enter and leave. It was built to combine the modern with the ageless and a monument to, democracy, modernity and nature.

    It's a place of leisure, gathering, meetings and greetings, where people of all race/creed/politics/religions are allowed and welcomed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    It's worth mentioning that I study city planning. And since I found Howard and Garden Cities pretty interesting, it got stuck in my head and appeared in some of my papers for college.
    we have a perpetually unfinished arcology a bit outside of the city... I considered going there to help build/learn once, but you have to pay for it there was a time when i thought it looked really neat, but i have to say looking at pictures of it now that it's kind of archetectual rapish feeling lol. I like the look of that garden city much better (although you really couldn't do that here in the desert without it being super non-self-contained)

    https://www.google.com/search?q=arcosanti&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=PAuXT7mg KYqO2w3LmLDg&biw=1333&bih=654&sei=QQuXT6S2Cqe62gWaqKT_DQ


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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    Alpha:


    Beta:


    Gamma:


    Delta:
    I don't think Rizzi is Alpha, as his overall work lacks a underlying structure and logic that is imo characteristic of Alpha Ti Valuing. It's possible but I don't see it.

    I think Calatrava is a better example of a Alpha architect/artist.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    It's worth mentioning that I study city planning. And since I found Howard and Garden Cities pretty interesting, it got stuck in my head and appeared in some of my papers for college.
    Ah that explains it then.
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