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    Which relations do you find it the most difficult not to criticize?
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    I'm gonna go with supervisee, then contrary, then conflicting. It's hard to criticize your conflicting partner because there's a communication barrier which is very frustrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy
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    My husband seems to have no problem criticizing me :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I'm gonna go with supervisee, then contrary, then conflicting. It's hard to criticize your conflicting partner because there's a communication barrier which is very frustrating.
    Joy if you don't know your type, how do you know what relationships you have with those people?
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    I know my type
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyburger
    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy
    supervisee / intj
    My husband seems to have no problem criticizing me :wink:
    How old are you if I may ask?

    And I was trying to VI your pics and they looked like a girl that I know here who I thought was ESTP, but I guess she is INTJ? She is just too forceful and political, and schemes all the time, and tries to get me involved. Am I off the mark here or are you starting to look like your significant other?
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    Ahh...25 but I feel 16 and 100 at the same time :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    Quote Originally Posted by oyburger
    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy
    supervisee / intj
    My husband seems to have no problem criticizing me :wink:
    How old are you if I may ask?

    And I was trying to VI your pics and they looked like a girl that I know here who I thought was ESTP, but I guess she is INTJ? She is just too forceful and political, and schemes all the time, and tries to get me involved. Am I off the mark here or are you starting to look like your significant other?
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    And I was trying to VI your pics and they looked like a girl that I know here who I thought was ESTP, but I guess she is INTJ? She is just too forceful and political, and schemes all the time, and tries to get me involved. Am I off the mark here or are you starting to look like your significant other?
    I can be forceful if I'm passionate about something and oh so sure of it, but not as a rule in my day to day interactions. I'm political but mostly keep that to myself. The scheming, never. I have a hard enough time with interpersonal interactions to be worried about scheming.
    How close are you to her? I rarely get even my closest friends involved in my affairs.

    I don't think I look like my husband but we've been together for 8 years and you what they say about pets and owners.
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    Like she makes political schemes, she gets people on this side or on that side (usually her side), so I thought it was some form of Se, prob ESTP, but she looksremarkably like you. And she also is the boss in her relationships and even tries to boss me around, and she is a year younger, and she also copies thingsthat I do, like courses I took, jobs I had, etc. Its' quite annoying. And she is not interesting, I always find that interactions with her involve me yielding to her for something or other. But she looks exactly like you in that picture with the grad hat on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    Like she makes political schemes, she gets people on this side or on that side (usually her side), so I thought it was some form of Se, prob ESTP, but she looksremarkably like you. And she also is the boss in her relationships and even tries to boss me around, and she is a year younger, and she also copies thingsthat I do, like courses I took, jobs I had, etc. Its' quite annoying. And she is not interesting, I always find that interactions with her involve me yielding to her for something or other. But she looks exactly like you in that picture with the grad hat on.
    Oh sorry! That's my sister, she's INFp I think. The only thing that sounds like her is the being the boss in relationships thing (she tries this with me but I won't let her).
    Most of the description sounds like ESTp to me except for maybe the copying
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    Quote Originally Posted by soggy-flakes
    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Which relations do you find it the most difficult not to criticize?
    Why, you, Joy.
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    When I think about my past relationships with them, in all honesty, despite the fact that I find it quite suprising that the scenario actually turned out this way, I would have to say I criticize ENFps most often.
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    istps with entjs coming in a close second

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    i criticize a lot of INFps. i've criticized ESTjs a bit, then ISTjs.
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    It's probably easiest to criticize the supervisee, the INFp -- with the conflictor there is a feeling that there is no point.

    Apart from that, I can recall no particular preference if you're talking about direct criticism.
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    it's just so hard not to criticize some people...
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    "A false friend praises you in your presence and criticizes you in your absence. A true friend criticizes you in your presence and praises you in your absence."

    Haha... I basically criticize all my friends, but its only because I want the best for them, I know they would do the same. If I don’t like somebody it’s a whole different story.
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    Nice quote Starfall.

    Easiest to criticize supervisee, lookalike, benefactor, comparative. In that order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyburger
    Ahh...25 but I feel 16 and 100 at the same time :wink:
    this makes me smile the genuine kind, it makes my eyes scrunch up. i know what you mean, intj sister.

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    hm its hard for me to criticize people but i guess some make me feel that i can do so without conflict, or with which i feel sure enough about what i a m saying to say it. I think those types i end up criticizing most are my supervisee, beneficiary, illusionary, activity partner. the arguments i wnd up winning? supervisee, activity. They think they won but i did: beneficiary, illusionary.

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    After thinking it over, ISFJ, then ENTJ. Don't know if it has to do with type, though both of them are asymetrical. And I apparently have the "upper" hand (though I wouldn't like to think about it like that) in both.
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    I hate being criticized myself especially by my mother who's type is still uncertain. ESFJ I think...or ISFJ...

    I criticize my friend ESFJ whenever she does something wrong and bossy or just plain stupid.

    I criticize ESTPs sometimes just because their actions/whatever sounds stupid or wrong.

    I don't criticize often, only when I feel like they're really wrong and needs some slaps.
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    beneficiary and supervisee seem to be common choices
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    beneficiary and supervisee seem to be common choices
    Yeah, my husband is my supervisor and is alway criticizing me and my sister is my beneficiary and I've criticized her very harshly her entire life
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    estj's
    estp's (sometimes)
    esfj's
    esfp's



    i think thats pretty much it

    there is this one guy i know who im pretty sure is estj, and he seems cool and all but sometimes he just blantently is wrong about something but keeps asserting it, and when i say something back, he just like...stares at me and keeps going on

    ugh w/e

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    After thinking it over, ISFJ, then ENTJ. Don't know if it has to do with type, though both of them are asymetrical. And I apparently have the "upper" hand (though I wouldn't like to think about it like that) in both.
    What kind of criticisms do you tend to make regarding ISFj and ENTj?

    The ISTp I had the closest contact with used to say "can't you ever relax?"
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    The ISTp I had the closest contact with used to say "can't you ever relax?"
    And the answer is "no", isn't it? :wink: ENTjs can't relax, even if some of them think that they can. Typical P critique of J behaviour, that might as well come from an INTp.

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    Is running 10 miles relaxing? I personally think it is. That's my concept of relax
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    Is running 10 miles relaxing? I personally think it is. That's my concept of relax
    Okay, I can accept that as one way of relaxing -- if you do it with the proper attitude, as a kind of meditation or contemplation. Sometimes when I am long distance running I feel like I am going to fall asleep. Does that ever happen to you?

    Actually I am going out for a 5 miles nap with an ENFp friend of mine in a moment, so I have to post this right now.

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    It doesn't happen to me. I can't relax whem I'm running, even if it's long distance. I need to feel like I'm using the highest amount of disposable energy at every moment in time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    After thinking it over, ISFJ, then ENTJ. Don't know if it has to do with type, though both of them are asymetrical. And I apparently have the "upper" hand (though I wouldn't like to think about it like that) in both.
    What kind of criticisms do you tend to make regarding ISFj and ENTj?

    The ISTp I had the closest contact with used to say "can't you ever relax?"
    ... no, I meant, it's harder for me to criticize ISFJs and ENTJs than other types...
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    It doesn't happen to me. I can't relax whem I'm running, even if it's long distance. I need to feel like I'm using the highest amount of disposable energy at every moment in time
    So, I was right then. ENTjs don't know how to relax.

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    I can't say that I can relax. I'm a very tense person no matter what I try. It is one of the main causes of my periodical insomnia phases. This is also one of the reasons I consider Si one of my weakest functions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    I can't say that I can relax. I'm a very tense person no matter what I try. It is one of the main causes of my periodical insomnia phases. This is also one of the reasons I consider Si one of my weakest functions.
    The only ENTj I know is also like this and has suffered insomnia for years. But I really don't think she's a good reference for ENTjs, because she's got some mental problems.
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    Not being able to relax and/or insomnia has soooooo many exterior, non-function related relations available lol.

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    Can insomnia be inheritable? I know a family where everyone in three generations has had insomnia for most of their lives.
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