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    Been done before, don't really care.

    Cloud - SLE-Ti 3w4 sx/sp
    Tifa - IEI-Fe 6w5 sx/so
    Aeris - EIE-Fe 7w6 so/sx
    Sephiroth - IEI-Ni 4w3 sx/sp
    Barret - ESE-Si 8w9 sx/so
    Cid - SEE-Se 8w7 sx/sp
    Shera - ILI-Te 6w5 sx/sp
    Red XIII - LII-Ti 9w1 so/sp
    Vincent - ILI-Ni 4w5 sx/sp
    Cait Sith/Reeve: IEE-Ne 6w5 so/sx
    Yuffie - SEE-Se 7w6 sp/sx
    Hojo - ILE-Ti 5w4 sx/so

    (from here on out are more approximations as these characters have no real informative backstory)
    Biggs - LSI-Ti 6w5 sx/so
    Wedge - SEI-Fe 9w8 so/sx
    Jesse - ESE-Si 6w7 sx/sp
    Professor Ghast - LIE-Te 8w9 sp/sx
    Lucrecia - ESI-Se 6w5 sx/so
    Reno - EIE-Ni 7w8 sx/so
    Rude - LSI-Se 1w2 sp/sx
    Elena - EIE-Fe 3w2 so/sp
    Tseng - ESE-Fe 8w9 sx/so
    President Shinra - LSE-Si 8w9 sp/so
    Rufus Shinra - EIE-Ni 8w7 sp/sx
    Heidegger - LSI-Se 8w9 sp/so
    Scarlett - SLE-Ti 3w4 sp/sx
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    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Cloud ISTp
    Barret ENFj
    Tifa ESTp
    Aeris INFp
    Cid ISTj
    Red XIII/ Nanako INTp
    Cait Sith ESFj
    Vincent INFj
    Sephiroth INTj/INFj (either emotionally overwhelmed, or diabolical mastermind)
    Rufus ENFj
    Reno ESTp
    Rude ISTj
    Tseng ESTj
    Elena ENFp
    Zack ENFp

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    Cid as ISTJ isn't a bad idea; Shera as his beneficiary could make sense.

    Tifa seems like an introvert, IMO. Gamma SF and IEI are the only types I can see for her. I used to think SEI, but she's not really Alpha.

    The thing about Cloud as ISTP is, he's Fe crazy. His whole delusion is all about how other people see him, feeling rejected and unliked by others, seeking status by position in a hierarchy that proves his talents and establishes him as unique and elite, not to mention the lies he's told to be seen as better than he has been lead to see himself. Claaassssic Se valuing, Fe seeking Enneagram 3.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    You really think Tseng and Aeris were conflictors?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Scarlet as SLE makes sense.

    Scarlet is like my favorite final fantasy 7 character. I love her bitchiness + her narcissistic red dress. She reminds me of Glory on Buffy too, another one of my favorite villains.

    Aw Georgie, I'd love to play final fantasy 7 with you while having deep conversations about the world. <3

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    Btw, I would put Cloud as ISTj not SLE. Cloud was clearly introverted. I mean I guess I can see an SLE-Ti being a classical introvert but ISTj makes better sense to me. And that would make him duals with Aeris if you have her as enfj.

    I like Tifa as IEI. All three of them feel like Betas, I remember feeling SOOO emotionally close to them when I was 14 years old. *love*

    Cait Sith feels like some sort of alpha to me. ENTp with Fi polr? Aw omg Yuffie as ESFp is ADORABLE. I agree!

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    ILE is very plausible for Reed/Cait Sith.

    LSI-Ti could work for Cloud.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    idk though, Cloud and Tifa seem like duals; Aeris was just a brief fantasy, Activity infatuation, but Tifa holds out for them the whole while and they end up together because they are an easy pairing and have always seen things from the same angle, plus the whole childhood love thing.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Hmm yeah. I think I'd be more devastated if Tifa died. Aeris was like a Mary Sue too much.

    I also thought it was a little lame that they resurrected her for that Kingdom Hearts game. But I revived Isha after I killed her so who am I to talk? Hindsight is 20/20 and I realized I shouldn't have done that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Hmm yeah. I think I'd be more devastated if Tifa died. Aeris was like a Mary Sue too much.
    Indeed. She had to die. And Tifa is so integral, she's the subtle underline to the whole storyline, the constant observer; killing her would be crass and myopic.

    I also thought it was a little lame that they resurrected her for that Kingdom Hearts game. But I revived Isha after I killed her so who am I to talk? Hindsight is 20/20 and I realized I shouldn't have done that.
    Lmao. I tried so hard to save Aeris, looked up and tried every method online, including leveling to 99 before meeting the Midgar Zolom on Disc 1. THAT fucking sucked
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    haha wow. the midgar zolom I remember that creature. wowwww. ahh so many nostalgic memories.

    My favorite boss was probably the gi nattak. I remember creating a screen name that was similar to that boss when I was 14. Something about me is like really attracted to the Undead. Like the whole concept of demons and zombies. Perhaps you can psychoanalyze me and tell me why.

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    edited for gayness
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    He went with Aeris as a bodyguard simply because he wanted to and he helped destroy the Mako Reactors because he wanted to get paid, even though it pissed Barrett off. I know later on in the game when his identity is called into question, he doubts who he is and what he can do, but when this happens it isn't because he is unliked or because he cared whether people rejected him or not, or whether people saw him as having a high status, but because he wanted to like himself by seeing what amazing talent and expertise he is capable of.
    No I can't agree. You're making him sound to be like this manly bad-ass with no feelings at all and this perfect Gary Stu (male version of Mary Sue).

    Don't you remember the scene late in the game, that flashback when he was bullied by other boys by not being very athletic? (or maybe it was something else i can't remember exactly but he was definitely bullied as a child.) That's what motivated him to become stronger....but he still couldn't get in SOLDIER. And I remember him talking about how bad he felt for letting everybody down, so he had to lie to cover up his tracks.

    He raised the bar for himself on a personal level, and maybe a bit for Tifa because he wanted to impress her, but not anyone else.
    Dude, he lied to EVERYBODY that he made it to SOLDIER when he did not. Cloud was the typical introverted boy that plays video games really that's why he was a popular character and a lot of people related to him. He was strong but he still couldn't measure up to the jocks. So many gamer boys feel that way that's why he was so popular. =p

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Don't you remember the scene late in the game, that flashback when he was bullied by other boys by not being very athletic? (or maybe it was something else i can't remember exactly but he was definitely bullied as a child.) That's what motivated him to become stronger....but he still couldn't get in SOLDIER. And I remember him talking about how bad he felt for letting everybody down, so he had to lie to cover up his tracks.
    Dude, seriously? I don't remember him getting bullied for not being athletic, lol. When did this happen?
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    Cloud is the archetypal example of the part of us that wants so badly to be liked or respected or recognized in some way. He was a loner who the other kids teased, so he grew up wanting to be everything they couldn't, and he most likely fixated on Sephiroth because the guy was a huge hero, public figure, etc. Everyone looked up to and admired Sephiroth, and Cloud, being insignificant and lonely, thought in the most primitively rational part of his brain that being like Sephiroth would make people and, most important of all, Tifa like and admire him.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    EIE isn't terrible for Rufus but i think LIE is better: he's pragmatic, materialistic, shrewd, opportunistic, and isn't concerned with high ideals or anything "unrealistic". he's always evaluating the usefulness and benefit of people's actions - more like a Te type. he's like a biting, ruthless variant of a LIE. however i believe he is humbled a bit after his near-death experience in FFVII, and as a result adopts more of a sense of responsibility to society, which i think is also LIE-like. (he is less ruthless in Advent Children than he was in FFVII and Before Crisis.)

    FFVII quotes

    "People are ignorant. They'll feel better as long as someone is punished."
    ...I'll let you here my new appointment speech. Old man tried to control the world with money. It seems to have been working.The population thought that Shinra would protect them. Work at Shinra, get your pay. If a terrorist attacks, the Shinra will help you. It looks perfect on the outside. But I do things differently. I control the world with fear. It takes too much to do it like my old man. A little fear will control the minds of common people. There's no reason to waste money on them."
    "It is that kind of dullness that makes you a second-rate scientist."

    Before Crisis quotes

    "Send out the army, President. The Turks will only take up precious time and labour. The Ancient won’t be able to put up much of a resistance if she’s got a bullet in her, will she?"
    "Hmph. The time that’s being wasted with all these unnecessary precautions cancels out any good that might come from it."
    "Crowning glory? Where’s the merit in sending some rocket up into space? All of this pomp with the air show and this ceremony are a waste."
    "I don’t care about this outer space stuff. My interests lie firmly on the ground. Our company should be there too."
    "What? So you would betray me? I'll cut off your financial support."
    Advent Children

    "I acknowledge that Shinra owes the planet a lot. It goes without saying that my company and I put the world in the sorry state it's in. Therefore, it's our responsibility to set things right.."

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    Hmmm...interesting, glam. LIE-Ni isn't a bad choice at all, actually.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Any thoughts on types in the Remake?

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    Remake:

    Cloud: LSI/SLI
    Jessie: LIE
    Tifa: IEI/IEE
    Barret: SEE
    Biggs: EII
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    Remake:

    Cloud: LSI-Ti 3w4 SO last
    Barret: EIE-Fe 8w9 SX/SO
    Tifa: EIE-Ni 2w3 SO/SX (Maybe ESE-Si)
    Aerith: IEI-Fe 9w8 SO/SX

    Very Beta and SP-last

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    Cloud LSI is duals with Aerith EIE. Tifa is semi-dual, ESE.

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    Remake:

    Cloud SLI Aerith IEE. Dual

    Tifa ESI or SEI. Seem more physical
    aggressive than Aerith.

    This series seem Delta to the core. The character designs are off, I don't feel like it at all. Si/Ne pov of cuteness/coolness - everything look so clean, lack the darkness and roughness of Ni/Se.

    Sephiroth look like real Beta ST here, not Cloud fake one...
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    Cloud: EII (stuck in superego mode for most of the story)
    Tifa: SEI
    Aerith: ESE
    Barret: SEE
    Sephiroth: LSI

    Cloud - Tifa: benefit
    Cloud - Aerith: illusionary
    Cloud - Barret: supervision
    Cloud - Sephiroth: superego

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    from the original game
    Cloud SLI
    Tifa SEI
    Aerith EII
    Sephiroth LII
    Red IEI
    Barret SEE

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