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    Default Fe dominate E/Js and height.

    I have noticed a trend. All the men identified as EIEs seem to be tall. Richard Branson, John F Kennedy, Ronald Regan, Martin Luther King. What would a short EIE be like?

    I know. Adolf Hitler.


    Are there any other examples of them? I am five foot five, and I find it hard to project that kind of crowd pleasing charisma. Extraverted Judgers seem to have an energy level that only makes sense if you are tall. Short men typically have the demenor of introverted precievers.

    List some short men who seem to be EIEs!
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    Tom Cruise.
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    No, that's absolutely impossible.
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    wat

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    This is not a "I do not have any confidence because I am short" thing. I just really do not seem to see alot of EIE short guys. So far it is Hitler and Tom Cruise... hmm.

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    Don't know, but I know somebody who probably will have the right answer. Maritsa, you around?

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    I am not Fe dominate. None of these examples seem like me.

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    Tom Cruise is ESFj. I am not going to argue Hitler, so whatever. Ronald Reagan is arguably Fe dominant, but not an ENFj. Martin Luther King is not an ENFj, although Beta NF is greatly possible.

    That said, I have seen many short ESFj and ENFj 2s. I have also seen a lot of small-framed ENFj 6's, such as Jason Mraz.

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    I know one short EIE. He is Italian.

    Wait, Charles Manson seems pretty short also. He is definitely EIE.
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    Not an ILI anymore, huh?
    „Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    Not an ILI anymore, huh?
    Reinin must be laughing his arse off.

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    I always considered myself EIE, but I am thinking about it. I think I am an ILI. I just do not see myself in the examples of real EIEs. ILI is what I am thinking about changing to. I am not fully committed to EIE, and I am leaning ILI. They are nearly opposites, in the sense that EIE supervises ILI. I am trying to see EIEs in a different light before I reject the label. To switch your self typing from Fe dom to Fe PoLR is a big switch. Therefore, I should examine it carefully.

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    Dominant*

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    What do you mean, Kassie? Anyway, I am thinking that I am an ILI with a pronounced Fi hidden agenda. Some people think I am an Fe type (theeffable) and most alpha NTs. I think the "feeling" that they are seeing is Fi HA. I am not an Fe ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octo View Post
    Tom Cruise.
    ESE
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    That particular misspelling is a pet peeve of mine.

    I see you as alpha>delta extrovert. BUT I don't really care, carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    I always considered myself EIE, but I am thinking about it. I think I am an ILI. I just do not see myself in the examples of real EIEs. ILI is what I am thinking about changing to. I am not fully committed to EIE, and I am leaning ILI. They are nearly opposites, in the sense that EIE supervises ILI. I am trying to see EIEs in a different light before I reject the label. To switch your self typing from Fe dom to Fe PoLR is a big switch. Therefore, I should examine it carefully.
    Why not LIE?

    Not suggesting it as your type, necessarily, but it's pretty much the intersection of what you are considering.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadae View Post
    Tom Cruise is ESFj. I am not going to argue Hitler, so whatever. Ronald Reagan is arguably Fe dominant, but not an ENFj. Martin Luther King is not an ENFj, although Beta NF is greatly possible.

    That said, I have seen many short ESFj and ENFj 2s. I have also seen a lot of small-framed ENFj 6's, such as Jason Mraz.
    Ew, God, Jason Mraz makes me want to fucking break shit.

    Ronald Reagan was ESE or EIE, one of the two.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    I always considered myself EIE, but I am thinking about it. I think I am an ILI. I just do not see myself in the examples of real EIEs. ILI is what I am thinking about changing to. I am not fully committed to EIE, and I am leaning ILI. They are nearly opposites, in the sense that EIE supervises ILI. I am trying to see EIEs in a different light before I reject the label. To switch your self typing from Fe dom to Fe PoLR is a big switch. Therefore, I should examine it carefully.
    You have to dominate Reinin first.

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    If you've noticed a trend of short men = fe dominant, or that fe dominant men seem to be short, it's a coincidence, and probably due to a small sample, potentially including mistypings.
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    no.It is not possible for short people to be Fe dominate E/Js.studies conducted by the International Kiev School Of Socionics For Children Who Cannot Read have shown that their small neuro-transmitters are so small that they are not able to form the necessary connections in order to create the impression of a Fe dominate E/J.The closest they can get to that is Se dominate E/P since it is easier to form fat little micro-webs.

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    I guess all the 6'0+ guys in China are Fe dominants. Short guys can't possibly be ENFjs. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    I guess all the 6'0+ guys in China are Fe dominants. Short guys can't possibly be ENFjs. Really?
    Nope. According to Reinin short guys are declaring types and tall ones, askers.

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    <----5'6" ESE = Short Fe dominant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    <----5'6" ESE = Short Fe dominant.
    You're a girl, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    You're a girl, right?
    No.

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    Lol
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadae View Post
    Tom Cruise is ESFj.
    Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant. I have Saberstorm on ignore so I was replying to the title of the thread... should probably read the OP, hey.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    i hope you're not gonna change your type to ili coz you're short lol.

    i can't think of 'famous' people right now, but i know a few short exfj people.

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    I came to the forum wondering if I was an LIE. I had taken the on-line type assistant test of Socionics.com several times and came out as an LIE. However, in Meyers Briggs I am an INFP. These are very different profiles. I posted first on the Delta forum, asking about the EII – which is Fi/Ne like the Meyers Briggs INFP. That was in my first few posts. Octo said ILI, and Galen said LII. I instantly recognized myself in the ILI, but I felt a sense of horror at being such a sorry sap that ILIs seem to be. I could only notice their flaws. Recoiling in horror at what ILIs are, I embraced LII. However, I could not for the life of me figure out how I have Si mobilizing and Fe suggestive. After asking many questions about suggestive and mobilizing functions, I concluded that I am not an LII.

    Later, I was typed as a Fe type by a few Alpha NTs. I looked at the Fe types, and I am now confident that I am not a leading Fe type. Not because I am short. It is just that I do not see myself in any of the Fe types. I made this post to see if I could see Fe types in a different light, as perhaps I was picking up on the wrong traits of Fe types. (The strength of their presence more so than the emotional receptivity and projection of feeling…) I may be seeing something that is not Fe as being Fe, but still, I conclude that I am not a Fe type.

    I am an ILI. I am slowly coming to grips with it. My instant recognition of myself in the ILI - combined with my horror at what ILIs are, converge to place me in the ILI category. Not everybody likes their sociotype. Look at Jessica129. She hates being SLI.

    I am open to being an LIE - but I am pretty confident I am ILI.

    (I do need to check my spelling … I just edited this post.)
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    "Really" short people are rare, as much as "really" tall people, so there will generally be very few Fe-dominant EJs who are really short.
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