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    Default Functions of Kristiina

    Vote for the function that you can clearly see in my attitude and personality.

    If you have any new (or just very strong) opinions about functions in certain A model positions, tell me.
    Or about some functions clearly being stronger than other functions.
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    I'm stuck between Fi and Fe. You have weak Ne and weak Te from my perspective. I'm stuck between ISFj and ISFp for you right now, leaning toward ISFp just a tad...
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    see.... bottom line with me is that I think it's impossible to internet type people. you are fortunate enough to know people irl who know about socionics (at least enough to do a presentation on it). to me, what they have to say means more than all of the forum members put together. do you have access to any written documentation on their reasoning for typing you as an ISFp? or could you ask them more about it?
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    Keep the opinions coming, I'll consider all plausible opinions.
    I have to go to sleep soon, so I'll read them many hours from now. (if I don't post it just means that I'm sleeping).
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    see.... bottom line with me is that I think it's impossible to internet type people. you are fortunate enough to know people irl who know about socionics (at least enough to do a presentation on it). to me, what they have to say means more than all of the forum members put together. do you have access to any written documentation on their reasoning for typing you as an ISFp? or could you ask them more about it?
    The people who typed me ISFp had only seen me for a couple of hours in a situation that was somewhat stressful in social sense. I was surrounded by strangers, I was scared. Half the people there typed me as ENTj. The person who only VI-ed me (he didn't understand Estonian), said ENTj. The ENTp who was the main person to convince others that I'm ISFp, had gotten that opinion from the "dual feeling".

    They asked me questions, I gave answers and everyone interpreted them just how they wanted. One of the things that gave the feeling of is my huge need for comfort (I don't like sleeping in the tent, I need MY soft pillow, I hate being stuck in rain if I can't change clothes and warm up later; when I move, the first piece of furniture that I want to buy is either a good bed or a huge soft couch) and because of my full of expression face (which is always full of expression, even when I don't want it to be full of expression. Even when I don't want others to read me like an open book. I have no control over my body language and facial expressions.)

    I have typed people, but I can't always see the functions clearly.
    Joy, you want me to be ISFp, but I'm not. From the people I know, I'm the most similar to INTp.
    INTp - We usually have the same opinion. When we have different opinions, it's because of different base of information. Exchange of information easily clears things up.
    ISTp - I have many similar ideas, but we rarely get along. Simple conversations often get heated.
    INFp - We get along fine most of the time, but the opinions can be different. If we avoid certain topics, we get along pretty well. (Lately I've noticed that some topics annoy the hell out of my sister.)
    ESTj - We have a mutual understanding, but we are not very similar. We might have very heated discussions, but it never gets ugly.
    ISTj - We get along very well, although I wish they didn't seem so tactful and strict. I'm often afraid that when I say the wrong thing, they won't say anything but they will think bad things.
    ISFp - No mutual understanding, no warmth in conversations.
    ENTp - Similar interests, but different methods of thinking/expressing our opinions. Pretty ok interactions, but no real warmth. Heated arguments are possible.

    I am not ISFp.
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
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    I think I have it, otherwise I wouldn't enjoy the long conversation with the INTp, ESTj, and even ISTp (until it gets really heated).
    I think it's my mask. I don't feel like I have any confidence in it. I can't keep it up for too long. I've got no real tact and I try to go by the rules of society. I try not to make mistakes in this area, but if I do, I feel even worse than I would if someone told me I'm fat.
    I do like abstract ideas and thoughts, but in the end, I will link them to real life, no matter if it fits or not. If it makes no sense in real life, I lose all interest.
    I would rather follow my own heart than the rules of my religion, society, etc. I wouldn't do something because it's "in" (fashionable). And I like to have values of my own (even if they are similar to those of the society). I know I have said that I don't have much Fi, but lately I've been thinking that my confidence in Fi is bigger than my confidence in Fe.

    I definitely have some of it. I have enough willpower to stand up for myself, but not enough to be able to inspire myself to be active.
    Some people think I have none of it. But the reality is that I don't have enough willpower to write huge posts to describe everything that goes on in my head. And I've got enough Ti to select a few aspects that I consider more important than others.
    I need comfort and I'm very stressed when I lack it, but I am really clumsy. I keep walking into stuff.
    I think it's strong.
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
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    I personally see a lot of and . I can see , too, but not as much.

    , because not only you use it for stand up for yourself - that would be the "natural" use - but you seem to automatically retort to during arguments/debates.

    because uhm, well, here you got me, I can't really explain why.
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    How about ? I think my thought process works only through , but how can I be certain.

    I agree that I have some , but I can't explain it either. If I find a practical application to my abstract thought, is it in stead?

    (Scary movie III)
    1: Mice.
    2: Mice? I thought she had rats.
    1: No, man. Rats are outside. Mice are inside.
    2: What if a mouse goes outside? Does it become a rat? If a rat is in the house, is it a mouse?
    1: I ain't never seen no mouse outside.
    2: That's because it's a rat, fool! Damn, you might have just made a fact just now.
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
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    Kristiina, I'm pretty much convinced that you're ISFp. It would be ill advised to use your typings of the people around you to type yourself. Even Erikki seems to be more comfortable with Fe than I would have expected from an INTp, but there's that whole language barrier thing so maybe I was reading him wrong. He reminds me of my brother, except not as shy. He also sorta reminds me of my second husband (when he wasn't depressed). Also... your understanding of the functions is questionable.

    Could you post some pics kristiina? Post all the pics you have, even the ones that you dislike.

    Okay, bottom line: I really do think you're ISFp. My suggestion would be to start a few topics in alpha and talk with the ENTps and INTjs (particularly the ENTps) through PMs and whatnot, and she if you get the same response that you're getting from Gamma and Delta. But at the end of the day, no one here knows you irl, so there's no possible way for any of us to accurately type you (even if we were anything more than amatuers). I've given my opinion... but it's just that... an opinion.

    Besides... let's say you really are ISFp. For some reason you like the idea of being ENTj. (I think it's because you fear you don't have positive ISFp traits and because you have associated ISFps with some sort of emotional or nervous disorder or something like like that.) Now let's say people here ride you about not being ENTj, and you learn more and decide that you're ISFp after all. What have we really accomplished??? Your type is your type whether you or anyone else knows it or not... You're looking for a sense of self here. It should be a positive experience... not one where people are gaining up on you and intellectually bullying you. To be clear, I DO think you are intelligent. It's part of what makes typing you difficult. Anyoen with an IQ above 120 or 130 or so seems rather NT-ish, with the exception of the older feeling types. They seem to have let go of childhood hurts enough to accept who they are, as people ideally do as they mature. Younger intelligent feelings types, particular males or "good student" females who didn't win prom queen, seem to cling to their intelligence for a sense of who they are, wanting to believe themselves NTs. Anyways, different people have different types of intelligence, and it's not uncommon for people to intellectually bully other intelligent people.

    lol this is why I seem so inconsistant to you... sometimes I feel like I should just leave you alone and just try to be friendly, but sometimes you say things (like what you said in the celebrity ISFp thread) that inspire an argumentative response from me. I feel like I can't even explain it to you because you just won't get it... perhaps this is a language barrier issue, perhaps it's inter type related... so then I tell you that I don't think you're ENTj, which pretty much means that you seem to have weak Te and very weak Ne. In fact, I spent some time writing this post, sorta knowing that you'd read it and be like "well good thing you're the pne that's a Fe type :wink: " or "good thing you suck at typing people :wink: " without actually really reading and considering what I've said. Grrrrr. It makes it seem like there's no point in trying to explain anything to you or argue with you. Anyways...
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    This is my understanding of Fe in me. It was written a couple of day ago in gamma anything goes. I REALLY don't think it sounds like Fe-creative.

    Ok, actually I'm thinking about Fe. Why I'm so paranoid about people liking me - do they like me, or don't they? I can't tell if my Fe is strong or not because it fluctuates so much. And Fi, I can't tell how strongly I feel emotions. One day I realized that I can easily start talking with girls who are all alone at that moment, I can give a good impression. The first 5 times I see her are great, but it goes downhill from there. From that moment I can't show that I really care about their accomplishment, even if I actually do care. I can't be happy and energetic, even if I like the person. I've used up all my lines. I barely dare to say anything. I want others to care about me, but I'm unable to show them that I care about them. When the friendship could get serious, I chicken out.

    And when I'm surrounded by many strangers, I don't dare to say anything at all, because I'm so worried of making an ass of myself. I become really introverted, almost totally mute. Meanwhile, I can only think about how badly I want to be able to say anything.
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    this sounds like a focus on Fe... it's not Fe as it should ideally be though. it sounds like the Fe of someone with a lot of self worth issues, regardless of type. you're just describing a fear of rejection. then on the other hand... there's still more of a focus on it than I think a lot of people place on it... maybe it's just me though?
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    hm, about Si.. i feel that people who have Si do not act as picky as other types without prominent Si.. even though they want comfort.

    I am responding to your comment about wanting your soft pillow and all that. An ISFp is less inclined to make a scene about something they want.

    I agree with what fabio said about standing up for yourself and Se.

    If there isnt a clear way your Ti manifests to others, perhaps it's Fe. I think what i get about you is that you are forceful in your thoughts as well as your actions, but i am thinking about forceful in how you do things, which imo is a sign of a J. In your pictures, you appear to have Se, and in the most recent one i saw-- youre seated at a restaurant or bar or something-- you look ENFj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    this sounds like a focus on Fe... it's not Fe as it should ideally be though. it sounds like the Fe of someone with a lot of self worth issues, regardless of type. you're just describing a fear of rejection. then on the other hand... there's still more of a focus on it than I think a lot of people place on it... maybe it's just me though?
    Or maybe it's the role of someone who had strong Fe-pressure in her family. It's not only about rejection. Even when I'm among friends, Fe-attacks (saying that I'm not good in Fe-stuff, me not being entertaining, saying wrong things, having a wrong reaction...), gives me the sensation of PoLR. People with a function in ego block should be more confident in using it.

    Fe typed don't run out of lines. Their friendships might be full or "phrases" to say to other people, but it comes naturally. It's in their personality. I'm more likely to resort to than .

    I use Ti more than Fe.
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    I think she was at her house with other people over in that one?

    Also, health considerations need to be taken into account. Some one with back problems is going to be more insistant on a comfortable matress and pillow than someone without back problems.

    ISFps have Se as a 7th fuction. Someone who's being gained up on is going to use their 7th function more than they usually would.

    And again, going back to your Fe description thing... a type with weak Fe would be less likely to think that her value with others lies in her ability to use Fe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    hm, about Si.. i feel that people who have Si do not act as picky as other types without prominent Si.. even though they want comfort.

    I am responding to your comment about wanting your soft pillow and all that. An ISFp is less inclined to make a scene about something they want.

    I agree with what fabio said about standing up for yourself and Se.

    If there isnt a clear way your Ti manifests to others, perhaps it's Fe. I think what i get about you is that you are forceful in your thoughts as well as your actions, but i am thinking about forceful in how you do things, which imo is a sign of a J. In your pictures, you appear to have Se, and in the most recent one i saw-- youre seated at a restaurant or bar or something-- you look ENFj.
    I have noticed the same thing about Si-dominant types. They sit down and they melt into the chair. They become the chair. :wink: They can wear high heals and they won't complain. One ISFp can eat anything (even only carrots and apples the whole day) and still cheerfully say that she loves carrots! . ISTp lies down and might as well fall asleep. No reason to adjust himself or the pillow or the blanket, or hand, head, hair...

    Lately I have been considering beta NF types. This is a part of the reason I made this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    And again, going back to your Fe description thing... a type with weak Fe would be less likely to think that her value with others lies in her ability to use Fe.
    http://www.the16types.info/models.php
    Role Function
    weak
    accepting

    Your role function never wants to stand out. You always try to go with the normal social behavior in this function, because you are unsure of it. You do not like criticism in this function therefore you won't give it.
    http://www.socioniko.net/en/1.1.types/model-a.html
    3. The Role Function: often a person tries to look this way (in order to not reveal his/her weak traits before the others), but is not that kind; in an emergency situation this function tends to excesses.
    Do you need any other lessons. Remember what I said about being in a socially stressful situation when strangers tried to type me... Wonder why I seemed Fe. Don't tell me that my understanding of functions if flawed. Take care of your understanding first.
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    LOL thank you for demonstrating my point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    LOL thank you for demonstrating my point
    explain.
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    If you really are either an ISFp or an ENTj, a reading of some type descriptions will determine that for sure. It is impossible to confuse yourself with your conflictor, if you have a rudimentary understanding of yourself and can read type descriptions. From that it follows that if you still can't decide for sure whether you are an ISFp or an ENTj, you must be another type.

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    well this is part of it

    Both partners are usually convinced that they can coexist and collaborate quite peacefully, but soon it becomes apparent that something is always going wrong, making their relationship problematic. Both partners may mistakenly think that the cause of these problems is minor and easily fixed and that all they need to do is to show a little bit more effort in understanding their partner. Unfortunately, these attempts to continue pushing their relationship any further will soon provoke an open conflict between the partners.
    you generally seem to misunderstand the point of what I'm saying, and then you get snotty about defending your points. it sounds pretty silly. it's tough to argue with you though, because you return to your original incorrect premis and continue to build off of it, not seeming to really *get* what others are saying. it's frustrating and it seems like there's no point in even trying... the more we try, the more irritated we get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    If you really are either an ISFp or an ENTj, a reading of some type descriptions will determine that for sure. It is impossible to confuse yourself with your conflictor, if you have a rudimentary understanding of yourself and can read type descriptions. From that it follows that if you still can't decide for sure whether you are an ISFp or an ENTj, you must be another type.
    Joy thinks I'm ISFp. I considered it after I was typed ISFp, but soon decided it is wrong. There are two ISFps in my family and I'm very different from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    well this is part of it

    Both partners are usually convinced that they can coexist and collaborate quite peacefully, but soon it becomes apparent that something is always going wrong, making their relationship problematic. Both partners may mistakenly think that the cause of these problems is minor and easily fixed and that all they need to do is to show a little bit more effort in understanding their partner. Unfortunately, these attempts to continue pushing their relationship any further will soon provoke an open conflict between the partners.
    you generally seem to misunderstand the point of what I'm saying, and then you get snotty about defending your points. it sounds pretty silly. it's tough to argue with you though, because you return to your original incorrect premis and continue to build off of it, not seeming to really *get* what others are saying. it's frustrating and it seems like there's no point in even trying... the more we try, the more irritated we get.
    i had suggested estj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    If you really are either an ISFp or an ENTj, a reading of some type descriptions will determine that for sure. It is impossible to confuse yourself with your conflictor, if you have a rudimentary understanding of yourself and can read type descriptions. From that it follows that if you still can't decide for sure whether you are an ISFp or an ENTj, you must be another type.
    obviously

    I considered it after I was typed ISFp, but soon decided it is wrong. There are two ISFps in my family and I'm very different from them.
    stop assuming you've typed others correctly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    LOL thank you for demonstrating my point
    I'll make it simpler: explain what you meant when you said that I demonstrated your point.

    which point?
    how?

    There is no misunderstanding. Either you can't explain it (but I did demonstrate your point) or I can't see how I demonstrated your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    If you really are either an ISFp or an ENTj, a reading of some type descriptions will determine that for sure. It is impossible to confuse yourself with your conflictor, if you have a rudimentary understanding of yourself and can read type descriptions. From that it follows that if you still can't decide for sure whether you are an ISFp or an ENTj, you must be another type.
    I totally agree and I have made this point elsewhere.

    Your conflictor is someone who has nothing in common with you -- not the same temperament (IP instead of EJ for ISFp and ENTj); not the same general kind of interests (SF instead of NT), and most importantly, is most confident precisely where you are least confident, so and for ISFp and ENTj.

    So the key point really is

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    if you have a rudimentary understanding of yourself and can read type descriptions
    EDIT: if a significant number of people could mistake themselves, and be mistaken by others, for their conflictor, that would be good evidence that there is nothing to socionics and personality types in general. I don't think that is the case.
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    Gamma, probably ENTj.
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    Side note: I identified with the "female ENTj" description. I identify with the intuitive sub ENTj description. Compared to other type descriptions, I identify with the regular ENTj descriptions.

    The general problem with the ENTj descriptions is that I have a hyper-sensitise (in stead of ENTj'ish non-existent ), I have a bigger obsession (possible reasons are my Fe-family and being female). And also a stronger then most male-ENTjs seem to have (at least that's what they say).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    And also a stronger then most male-ENTjs seem to have (at least that's what they say).
    Not necessarily "stronger" -- you just "take refuge" in it very easily when feeling cornered.
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    like I've said before... interet typing is sham... you know you irl. we don't. it doesn't matter what any of us think anyways... even if not one single person (yourself included) thinks you're ENTj... it doesn't mean you're not.

    the best way to type a person is to know that person well irl and have a reasonable understanding of model A, the functions, and the type descriptions. lol that seem to doesn't stop us from debating though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    like I've said before... interet typing is sham... you know you irl. we don't. it doesn't matter what any of us think anyways... even if not one single person (yourself included) thinks you're ENTj... it doesn't mean you're not.

    the best way to type a person is to know that person well irl and have a reasonable understanding of model A, the functions, and the type descriptions. lol that seem to doesn't stop us from debating though.
    Debate was just getting interesting. Saying "Internet typing is a sham" is not good enough. It's not the ticket out of every type discussion. If you are convinced that I'm ISFp, explain why.
    PS! Saying that everyone I have ever typed IRL has been typed wrong is not very plausible. Use the type relations I described. I only named the types I'm convinced about. Of course I know other people of other types, but I didn't think data about them was trustworthy.
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    sorry... it's not interesting for me... it's pointless, and it's irritating because you seem to miss the point of what I'm saying, and when I explain it more and it doesn't help anything... I just get more frustrated as you continue to not get the point of what I'm saying.

    is this feeling mutual or is it just me?
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    Trying to learn your functions is only going to get you farther away from the truth. This thread is a waste of space IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler
    Trying to learn your functions is only going to get you farther away from the truth. This thread is a waste of space IMO.
    I want to hear/see the opinions of those who don't want to get involved in certain type discussions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    sorry... it's not interesting for me... it's pointless, and it's irritating because you seem to miss the point of what I'm saying, and when I explain it more and it doesn't help anything... I just get more frustrated as you continue to not get the point of what I'm saying.

    is this feeling mutual or is it just me?
    Yes. You say things, which are conflicting with the entire socionics theory. I don't understand how your personal ideas about functions make me ISFp. And when there is something in particular that I don't understand and I ask you, I get no answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler
    Trying to learn your functions is only going to get you farther away from the truth. This thread is a waste of space IMO.
    I want to hear/see the opinions of those who don't want to get involved in certain type discussions.
    The problem is not that your trying to search for your type, but the process will lead you nowhere. I agree with Phaedrus and Expat because if you were searching for your type properly, you would not be locked between two conflictors. I had never ever thought I was an ISTj or ESTj because I would have to defy all reason and empricial evidence to come to tha conclusion. It's possible to get confused about rationality/irrationality or between thinking and feeling. Remember this when you have to type yourself:

    WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT YOU OR HOW YOU REACT IN SITUATIONS, WITH PEOPLE AND WERE UNFAMILIAR WITH YOUR FORM OF BEHAVIOUR IRL.

    It is your job to make that clear for us and if you don't, it will lead you to nowhere fast.
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    I'm not stuck between conflictors. Again, the type ISFp was the type Joy suggested, because she thinks she's ENTj and I'm her conflictor.

    I'm actually trying to seriously consider beta NF. Reinin dichotomies and the "victim" thing show that I might be beta NF. I think it's just because of my Fe and constant interactions with beta NF types. I'm trying to find out which quadra should I seriously place myself.

    I'm re-posting this (I marked marked green the ones that got at least 5 points). Notice ENFj. Notice my lack of confidence when using Fe for a longer time.:


    I'm trying to see if I actually have beta or gamma function values. Maybe it's possible that I am gamma, but I seem beta due to the excessive use of Fe role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    And also a stronger then most male-ENTjs seem to have (at least that's what they say).
    I wouldn't really say that it's "stronger", just seems to be more used. Not necessarily a strenght, from my POW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    And also a stronger then most male-ENTjs seem to have (at least that's what they say).
    I wouldn't really say that it's "stronger", just seems to be more used. Not necessarily a strenght, from my POW.
    Do I use it enough for it to exclude the type ENTj, in your personal opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    And also a stronger then most male-ENTjs seem to have (at least that's what they say).
    I wouldn't really say that it's "stronger", just seems to be more used. Not necessarily a strenght, from my POW.
    Do I use it enough for it to exclude the type ENTj, in your personal opinion?
    It's a combination of various traits. The usage of alone wouldn't be enough to discount the typing as ENTj, but you use it differently from all the ENTjs I've seen on various foroums. is mainly used to ridicule opponents' idiotic positions (something I, unfortunately, am prone to do as well) but never to enforce opinions.
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    Kristiina,

    Your graph has one error (possibly made by myself, too, when we went through this) - ENFjs are strategic, INFps are tactical.

    So that adds one extra point to ENFj (and to ENTj, for that matter).

    I think dichotomies do point strongly towards ENFj, as does your description of which can indeed be a PoLR in the ENFj fashion.

    Also, this is very subjective but my ENFj boss shifts from to when feeling cornered in an argument, too.

    A small question.

    When you are working alone, with the PC, etc, what would anyone observing you say - - that your face "freezes" in expression until you start talking to someone or, even as you are working with the PC, your face assumes a lot of expressions?
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