Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 40 of 72

Thread: wikileaks alleged UFO files

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default wikileaks alleged UFO files

    videos of fleet over mexico city june 2004

    wikileaks with reference to the fleet and a war over southern ocean

    EU times report which inspired the above video:
    http://www.eutimes.net/2010/12/wikil...outhern-ocean/
    more interesting video of the mexico city sighting
    Last edited by rat1; 03-14-2012 at 08:17 PM.

  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    18,006
    Mentioned
    162 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default


  3. #3
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    also a bit about the gulf of aden vortex which is altering the jet stream:
    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1425.htm

  4. #4
    Ti centric krieger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    5,983
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    could you at least raise some semblance of effort toward making it look like this came from respectable sources.

  5. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Yeah, I'll just go pull up the New York Times article on it. How about you put a 'semblance of effort' in finding out the truth for yourself through your own personal research, rather than impulsively dismissing whatever evidence you do encounter. It's this trust people place in major news outlets which allow them to be lied to.

  6. #6
    Atlast's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    235
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    This may be a sell out and a strategy to discredit wikileaks. Wouldn't be surprised; I've seen enough of the owner, who isn't true to his own supposed convictions.

  7. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    it wouldn't make sense as a discrediting strategy since it hasn't gotten much press, and that explanation doesn't account for the fleet of UFOs spotted over mexico city.

  8. #8
    Atlast's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    235
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratremix View Post
    and that explanation doesn't account for the fleet of UFOs spotted over mexico city.
    Lots of things could explain that 'fleet', but I'll assume you already know what I'm going to say and that you've already formed convictions in the matter from more research than I, so I'll not press it.

  9. #9
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Lots of things like what? Weather balloons?

    There are millions of alleged witnesses in mexico city along with cell videos and the american media refusing to cover the event... As if there isnt a mountain of evidence for UFOs. I don't know what other explanation you have.
    Last edited by rat1; 03-14-2012 at 10:06 PM.

  10. #10
    Atlast's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    235
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratremix View Post
    Lots of things like what? Weather balloons?

    There are millions of alleged witnesses in mexico city along with cell videos and the american media refusing to cover the event... As if there isnt a mountain of evidence for UFOs. I don't know what other explanation you have.
    Oh, well if that's the case I'll guiltlessly point out that there are plenty of natural atmospheric processes that might create lights in the sky in day, or at least the appearance of them. Northern lights are one example, and there have been a few debunked Russian sightings I've read about with a scientific explanation of natural processes.

  11. #11
    the flying pig Capitalist Pig's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado, USA
    Posts
    5,929
    Mentioned
    122 Post(s)
    Tagged
    7 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratremix View Post
    it wouldn't make sense as a discrediting strategy since it hasn't gotten much press, and that explanation doesn't account for the fleet of UFOs spotted over mexico city.
    The fact that it hasn't gotten much press is irrelevant. It's well known that the US is hellbent on destroying Wikileaks using whatever subterfuge is at their disposal. The fact that it's on the Internet guarantees it will get attention, whether it catches on like wildfire or not is impossible to predict. But putting it out there is enough to get the ball rolling. Don't underestimate the ability of the US intelligence community to spread misinformation. They would hire Anon if it was an actual, cohesive group and they were for sale.

    edit: That said, I haven't watched the videos or done any of the research, so I'm just spouting off at the mouth. But Atlast's suggestion, on its face, rings with the possibility of truth. For now, I am suspending judgment. Though I did hear something about Wikileaks saying part of its Cablegate releases might include references to UFO activity -- the scope or nature of these documents wasn't specified, AFAIK.

  12. #12
    Creepy-male

    Default

    Si senor its de la tack a del la clones.andale, andale.

  13. #13
    what is essential is invisible to the eye fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Space
    TIM
    ILI
    Posts
    12,802
    Mentioned
    367 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)

    Default

    You know, lately I've been really interested in aliens and the whole concept of UFO's.
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

  14. #14
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    The fact that it hasn't gotten much press is irrelevant. It's well known that the US is hellbent on destroying Wikileaks using whatever subterfuge is at their disposal. The fact that it's on the Internet guarantees it will get attention, whether it catches on like wildfire or not is impossible to predict. But putting it out there is enough to get the ball rolling. Don't underestimate the ability of the US intelligence community to spread misinformation. They would hire Anon if it was an actual, cohesive group and they were for sale.

    edit: That said, I haven't watched the videos or done any of the research, so I'm just spouting off at the mouth. But Atlast's suggestion, on its face, rings with the possibility of truth. For now, I am suspending judgment. Though I did hear something about Wikileaks saying part of its Cablegate releases might include references to UFO activity -- the scope or nature of these documents wasn't specified, AFAIK.
    '
    I know the government, I grew up in the government. You do not understand it, and have a childish view of its motivations which is tainted by a naive financial idealism you cling to in order to justify your orgasmic womb fixations.

    The government has been hiding knowledge about aliens from the public for over 50 years. Evidence for the UFO phenomenon dates back to B.C.. only over the last 50 years has the proof become obvious.

    You keep pointing to the government, but who is the government? The people are the government because people have power in the ability to relinquish power. Possessing power leaves you powerless; freedom is our ability to deny ourselves power. You struggle for power from the government and you are the government.

    Belief in God is the only thing that solves the problem of government. Belief in aliens is similar to the belief in God except it's not as substantial. Belief in God and aliens will both be verified in the coming years...

  15. #15
    the flying pig Capitalist Pig's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado, USA
    Posts
    5,929
    Mentioned
    122 Post(s)
    Tagged
    7 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratremix View Post
    '
    I know the government, I grew up in the government. You do not understand it, and have a childish view of its motivations which is tainted by a naive financial idealism you cling to in order to justify your orgasmic womb fixations.

    The government has been hiding knowledge about aliens from the public for over 50 years. Evidence for the UFO phenomenon dates back to B.C.. only over the last 50 years has the proof become obvious.

    You keep pointing to the government, but who is the government? The people are the government because people have power in the ability to relinquish power. Possessing power leaves you powerless; freedom is our ability to deny ourselves power. You struggle for power from the government and you are the government.

    Belief in God is the only thing that solves the problem of government. Belief in aliens is similar to the belief in God except it's not as substantial. Belief in God and aliens will both be verified in the coming years...

  16. #16
    Decadent Charlatan Aquagraph's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Continental Vinnland
    TIM
    OmniPoLR
    Posts
    3,967
    Mentioned
    126 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    What do the aliens want, crazedrat, and why, as an intergalactic tech equipped race wouldn't just bluntly and simply take it?
    “I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden

  17. #17
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Well I had a long explanation but I am gona make it simpler for you. You don't want to be a karmic parasite during these days, you want to be karmically symbiotic. That's because the way you relate to these aliens most likely will determine their disposition toward you: are you a good or bad bacterium? Your belief system guides your actions. So find the best belief system possible, stick with it to perfect your karma, and that will mean you can approach death / the aliens with the same attitude; because ultimately the only thing we can have in common with these aliens is God. You should treat this as if it is your personal death which you are preparing for, because it most likely is. That is my advice.
    Last edited by rat1; 03-18-2012 at 09:53 PM.

  18. #18
    the flying pig Capitalist Pig's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado, USA
    Posts
    5,929
    Mentioned
    122 Post(s)
    Tagged
    7 Thread(s)

    Default


  19. #19
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    n/a

  20. #20
    what is essential is invisible to the eye fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Space
    TIM
    ILI
    Posts
    12,802
    Mentioned
    367 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)

    Default

    Ancient fucking aliens.
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

  21. #21
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    yes, go watch it

  22. #22
    Mariano Rajoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    1,120
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I am an alien, and I know the best place to hide is in public. I have come here to learn about humans, and I have learned that admitting my celestial origins is the best way of deflecting inquiry.

    And for the record, "aliens" are atheists. And voyeurs.
    LII
    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

  23. #23
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    18,006
    Mentioned
    162 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    I have had a book in pdf format dealing with this topic specifically. It contained pictures of spacecraft, the material used to build it, diet, and all the technicalities. I had it on my laaptop but I broke it when fell down the stairs with it.

  24. #24
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    18,006
    Mentioned
    162 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default


  25. #25
    what is essential is invisible to the eye fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Space
    TIM
    ILI
    Posts
    12,802
    Mentioned
    367 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    I have had a book in pdf format dealing with this topic specifically. It contained pictures of spacecraft, the material used to build it, diet, and all the technicalities. I had it on my laaptop but I broke it when fell down the stairs with it.
    smooth move
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

  26. #26

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Saugerties,NY
    TIM
    ENFj-fe
    Posts
    947
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    There are no aliens just fucked up people, get over yourselves, enough said.
    EIE tritype 5w4, 4w5, 9w1


    As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.
    Carl Jung, "Memories, Dreams, Reflections", 1962

  27. #27
    I've been waiting for you Satan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Behind you
    TIM
    sle sp/sx 845
    Posts
    4,956
    Mentioned
    137 Post(s)
    Tagged
    15 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    You know, lately I've been really interested in aliens and the whole concept of UFO's.

  28. #28
    what is essential is invisible to the eye fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Space
    TIM
    ILI
    Posts
    12,802
    Mentioned
    367 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)

    Default



    creepy... apparently Hitler has something to do with the UFO's in Antarctica.
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

  29. #29
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    18,006
    Mentioned
    162 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    smooth move
    I'm alright.

  30. #30

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Saugerties,NY
    TIM
    ENFj-fe
    Posts
    947
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post


    creepy... apparently Hitler has something to do with the UFO's in Antarctica.
    You don't actually believe any of this nonsense do you? The collective consciousness is just in tune with the idea that the rich and powerful really don't give a shit about us, this is reality, nothing more complex.
    EIE tritype 5w4, 4w5, 9w1


    As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.
    Carl Jung, "Memories, Dreams, Reflections", 1962

  31. #31
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    TIM
    LSE
    Posts
    18,006
    Mentioned
    162 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default


  32. #32
    what is essential is invisible to the eye fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Space
    TIM
    ILI
    Posts
    12,802
    Mentioned
    367 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Morcheeba View Post
    You don't actually believe any of this nonsense do you? The collective consciousness is just in tune with the idea that the rich and powerful really don't give a shit about us, this is reality, nothing more complex.
    I don't believe it and I don't not believe it. I'd have to look more into it to decide on that one.

    There is evidence that most of the rich and powerful don't care about other people. They've actually done studies on this. The more wealth and power you acquire, the less you tend to empathize. I'm not saying that it's like that for everyone, but it's the general census or whatever.

    I've also heard that a lot of CEO's and people in position of power are psychopaths.


    oh, a friend recently showed me this video. It's not real, but makes you think.

    Last edited by fox; 03-20-2012 at 06:26 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

  33. #33
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    That's only kinda true. The rich people tend to look down on poor people as lazy / incompetent / irresponsible. That I think is part of the lack of empathy. I'm not saying that's the right way they should look at it, but it's not like they're mindlessly evil. As for there not being aliens, you're just wrong about that. You'll find that out eventually

  34. #34
    Let's fly now Gilly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    TIM
    3w4 sx/so
    Posts
    24,757
    Mentioned
    91 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratremix View Post
    That's only kinda true. The rich people tend to look down on poor people as lazy / incompetent / irresponsible. That I think is part of the lack of empathy. I'm not saying that's the right way they should look at it, but it's not like they're mindlessly evil. As for there not being aliens, you're just wrong about that. You'll find that out eventually
    What do you know that makes you so certain, that we are missing?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

  35. #35
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I don't know how much you know about it. How much have you seen?

  36. #36
    Mariano Rajoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    1,120
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratremix View Post
    I don't know how much you know about it. How much have you seen?
    I don't know anything about it, but would like to know more. Could you start a new thread, and give us the information from the beginning? There is so much on the internet, I don't know where to begin. How do we know the difference between a hoax, and a genuine crop circle for instance? From what you've said, it seems we need this information quickly.
    LII
    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

  37. #37
    The Soul Happy-er JWC3's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,808
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Ancient fucking aliens.
    You mean reapers?

    I think they prefer to be called "The Old Ones".
    Easy Day

  38. #38
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,934
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    yeah i'll do that in a bit
    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy View Post
    I don't know anything about it, but would like to know more. Could you start a new thread, and give us the information from the beginning? There is so much on the internet, I don't know where to begin. How do we know the difference between a hoax, and a genuine crop circle for instance? From what you've said, it seems we need this information quickly.

  39. #39
    what is essential is invisible to the eye fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Space
    TIM
    ILI
    Posts
    12,802
    Mentioned
    367 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)
    Last edited by fox; 03-20-2012 at 11:13 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

  40. #40
    the flying pig Capitalist Pig's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado, USA
    Posts
    5,929
    Mentioned
    122 Post(s)
    Tagged
    7 Thread(s)

    Default


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •