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    So I can't make up my mind about her... all I know is that she is very likely a EXFx

    Her 3 most recent photos:
    On the right:

    *Pictures taken away for privacy issues now *

    Not intellectually driven, but that doesn't mean she is stupid.

    She is the kind of girl who would be completely down to partying every day and still go to work the next day.

    Committed in all of her relationships. She values the company of people around her, and I would call her 'very loyal'. She is a girl who will stick by your side even if she knows you might be wrong, just because she values those people deeply.

    Very shy about the public. She tends to be very self-conscious about her image, and this often makes her want to stay on the sidelines. She is amazing an intertype bonding, but never ask her to go on stage and give a speech or perform because that will make her nervous. She was very shy about her accent and her grammar when she was learning English, and would often find a translator (who spoke English worse than her) because she was too worried about fucking up.

    I don't want to say much about her in an open way because I might end up projecting something. Please ask me questions about what could help you pinpoint.
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    ENFp.

    And pretty fucking attractive.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    SEI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate
    She is a girl who will stick by your side even if she knows you might be wrong, just because she values those people deeply.
    Damn straight. This is a rare quality, and something I miss in most of my friends/relationships.

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    Please ask me questions about what could help you pinpoint.
    I need her facebook, thanks.
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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Forum invite.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    What is her native language?

    ExFp =

    Basically this means Ti = PoLR, Te = mobilizing function, Fi = creative function Fe = demonstrative function

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    ENFp.

    And pretty fucking attractive.
    Yesss (to both).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    Forum invite.
    Haha she is not really an internet person (as I said, she's too active and will prefer partying than just sitting hours browsing the internet). YOU ARE NOT GETTING IN HER PANTS! jk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    What is her native language?

    ExFp =

    Basically this means Ti = PoLR, Te = mobilizing function, Fi = creative function Fe = demonstrative function
    Our native language is Spanish. She now works in the US.


    To everyone:

    No disrespect, but I find it very hard to believe anybody who is basing their opinion off of a couple of sentences, and isn't going into detail about why they think what. I'd really appreciate a bit more thoroughness in this. And as I said, I am willing to answer questions when asked.
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    I don't know anything about her. She just looks extraverted and a feeler. I cannot say much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    No disrespect, but I find it very hard to believe anybody who is basing their opinion off of a couple of sentences, and isn't going into detail about why they think what.
    A couple of sentences can be sufficiently informative sometimes.

    If I'm not going into detail about my thought process, it doesn't mean it's nonexistent.

    She VI's like an Fi-ENFp. Think Vanessa Carlton, or Tamera Mowry. Or .


    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    Not intellectually driven, but that doesn't mean she is stupid.
    Ethical > Logical. The fact that you're pointing this out suggests Tx PoLR to me.

    Possibly Sensing > Intuitive, based on stereotypes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    She is the kind of girl who would be completely down to partying every day and still go to work the next day.
    High energy levels → Extrovert. EP or EJ temperament.

    General impression from description & pics is an irrational type, so EP > EJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    Committed in all of her relationships. She values the company of people around her, and I would call her 'very loyal'. She is a girl who will stick by your side even if she knows you might be wrong, just because she values those people deeply.


    Clear-cut Fi ego.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    Very shy about the public. She tends to be very self-conscious about her image, and this often makes her want to stay on the sidelines.
    This suggests Ne > Se valuing (infantile > aggressor), and hints at Fe devaluing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    She is amazing at intertype bonding, but never ask her to go on stage and give a speech or perform because that will make her nervous.
    Fi > Fe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    She was very shy about her accent and her grammar when she was learning English, and would often find a translator (who spoke English worse than her) because she was too worried about fucking up.
    Weak logic, Te mobilizing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    Haha she is not really an internet person (as I said, she's too active and will prefer partying than just sitting hours browsing the internet).
    Add a few points to Extroversion and EP temperament.


    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    And as I said, I am willing to answer questions when asked.
    How is she in regards to thinking about the future, perceiving ways in which events could develop, and investigating/considering potential in people and opportunities?


    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    YOU ARE NOT GETTING IN HER PANTS! jk.
    That's what YOU think.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    SEI
    you like to be wrong.

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    Is she an enneagram 6? Perhaps even 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    Not intellectually driven, but that doesn't mean she is stupid.
    We have a thread where we've written about SEI not liking to read much. Mostly because they are unsure of FACTS (Te PoLR) and much more comfortable trusting the information coming from the people they trust.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    She is the kind of girl who would be completely down to partying every day and still go to work the next day.
    Wiki:

    " They are innately drawn to situations that satisfy their inner physical needs and experience. They are usually skilled at the art of recreation, enjoyment, and positive aesthetic experience.... SEIs also tend to mirror and heighten the emotions experienced by the group dynamically."

    They are no strangers at parties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    Committed in all of her relationships.
    Wiki:

    " This pairing makes them especially skilled with interpersonal relationships."
    You see ENFjs are not good at calling people up and keeping up with their relations as are ESFjs. INFjs are committed to a non partying small circle of friends.


    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    She values the company of people around her, and I would call her 'very loyal'. She is a girl who will stick by your side even if she knows you might be wrong, just because she values those people deeply.
    looks like Fi demonstrative

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    Very shy about the public. She tends to be very self-conscious about her image, and this often makes her want to stay on the sidelines.
    Sounds like image conscious

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    She is amazing an intertype bonding, but never ask her to go on stage and give a speech or perform because that will make her nervous. She was very shy about her accent and her grammar when she was learning English, and would often find a translator (who spoke English worse than her) because she was too worried about fucking up. I don't want to say much about her in an open way because I might end up projecting something. Please ask me questions about what could help you pinpoint.
    This is true of many SEI but the rest of what you write is true of both SEI and SEE; unlike SEE, SEI are not worried and constantly stressed out about their relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    If I'm not going into detail about my thought process, it doesn't mean it's nonexistent.
    Haha thank you for going into detail about this now ... but yeah I'm not typically a "take things at face value" kind of person. I demand explanations !

    She VI's like an Fi-ENFp. Think Vanessa Carlton, or Tamera Mowry. Or .
    This is useful... thank you. I'm still not too much of a VI expert (but I can be spot-on every so often). Any tip helps.

    and hints at Fe devaluing.
    This is interesting actually... because I think she fits the description of " demonstrative" quite well. She is not necessarily the typical Fe-ego type of person, but she doesn't suck at understanding it... in other words, I can see as being the function she least devalues, which would make sense with IEE.

    Weak logic
    Oh god... so much.

    How is she in regards to thinking about the future, perceiving ways in which events could develop, and investigating/considering potential in people and opportunities?
    I don't think she is good in this whatsoever. She constantly stays put in comfort places because she is not very great about thinking long-term.

    For example, while in college, she stayed in the same job she got as a senior all the way through her college. There were a LOT of opportunities that jumped RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER so she could get a job in something related to her field where she'd earn more. Yet she wouldn't go through with them. She was comfortable with the people she knew, in the workplace she had. More than anything, she was afraid of jumping into a completely new position where people might not appreciate her. It was me who had to tell her "when have you EVER been in a place where people don't like you? Face it, you are a people's persons, and it doesn't matter where you go, people are still going to love you because of how nice of a girl you are", which almost made her cry lol.

    Too bad that still didn't inspire her to DO SOMETHING lol. She tends to be a bit too fearful about what others might think of her in that aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
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    She is not a SEI. And wikisocion is a crappy reference. I prefer www.socionics.us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate
    Very shy about the public. She tends to be very self-conscious about her image, and this often makes her want to stay on the sidelines.
    Sounds like image conscious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    I don't think she is good in this whatsoever. She constantly stays put in comfort places because she is not very great about thinking long-term.

    For example, while in college, she stayed in the same job she got as a senior all the way through her college. There were a LOT of opportunities that jumped RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER so she could get a job in something related to her field where she'd earn more. Yet she wouldn't go through with them. She was comfortable with the people she knew, in the workplace she had. More than anything, she was afraid of jumping into a completely new position where people might not appreciate her. It was me who had to tell her "when have you EVER been in a place where people don't like you? Face it, you are a people's persons, and it doesn't matter where you go, people are still going to love you because of how nice of a girl you are", which almost made her cry lol.

    Too bad that still didn't inspire her to DO SOMETHING lol. She tends to be a bit too fearful about what others might think of her in that aspect.
    Don't you think someone who stays in a comfortable place for a long time despite opportunities that she can seize, ignores Se?

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    Question, Maritsa: Do you think people who enjoy sex a lot and get pleasure from it are users?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    I don't think she is good in this whatsoever. She constantly stays put in comfort places because she is not very great about thinking long-term.

    For example, while in college, she stayed in the same job she got as a senior all the way through her college. There were a LOT of opportunities that jumped RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER so she could get a job in something related to her field where she'd earn more. Yet she wouldn't go through with them. She was comfortable with the people she knew, in the workplace she had. More than anything, she was afraid of jumping into a completely new position where people might not appreciate her. It was me who had to tell her "when have you EVER been in a place where people don't like you? Face it, you are a people's persons, and it doesn't matter where you go, people are still going to love you because of how nice of a girl you are", which almost made her cry lol.

    Too bad that still didn't inspire her to DO SOMETHING lol. She tends to be a bit too fearful about what others might think of her in that aspect.
    Don't you think someone who stays in a comfortable place for a long time despite opportunities that she can seize, ignores Se? Wiki is written by the same person as that site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Don't you think someone who stays in a comfortable place for a long time despite opportunities that she can seize, ignores Se?
    You gotta look at the 'why', and not the 'what'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    I'm not typically a "take things at face value" kind of person. I demand explanations !
    Boring... Just like my SEI uncle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    Oh god... so much.
    Makes you laugh, I know. But it's kind cute. Ti PoLR I mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    I don't think she is good in this whatsoever. She constantly stays put in comfort places because she is not very great about thinking long-term.

    For example, while in college, she stayed in the same job she got as a senior all the way through her college. There were a LOT of opportunities that jumped RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER so she could get a job in something related to her field where she'd earn more. Yet she wouldn't go through with them. She was comfortable with the people she knew, in the workplace she had. More than anything, she was afraid of jumping into a completely new position where people might not appreciate her. It was me who had to tell her "when have you EVER been in a place where people don't like you? Face it, you are a people's persons, and it doesn't matter where you go, people are still going to love you because of how nice of a girl you are", which almost made her cry lol.
    Ne/Si. Judicious. Infantile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    Too bad that still didn't inspire her to DO SOMETHING lol.
    Well, you're not her dual after all, I am. You can't inspire her because you don't have my sly skills.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phthalate View Post
    She is the kind of girl who would be completely down to partying every day and still go to work the next day.
    That's what I tend to admire about Irrational types. It takes time for me to adjust from one mode to another i.e. when I am in a certain state of mood, it takes awhile for me to adjust to another one.

    Anyway, my impression of her is that she seems ENFp to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerorobyn View Post
    Question, Maritsa: Do you think people who enjoy sex a lot and get pleasure from it are users?



    Depends...if they are deriving pleasures which they can fantasize about and relive some of those feel good sensations form the object of sex, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post


    Depends...if they are deriving pleasures which they can fantasize about and relive some of those feel good sensations form the object of sex, yes.
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    Jorge, your sister is super cute. Seriously. She looks so... innocent.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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