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    imo SLE so/sp 8w7

    He's got a way of condensing the arguments down to their strongest link, a 'debugging' mindset where he can see the whole structure and pick up on what parts don't fit, which points to an H-P type.


    edit: This quote in particular one can see his Result, H-P thinking. He already knows what the final result is (the whole puzzle) and he is just filling in the blanks to get there:

    Mamet: "I just started writing it and kept writing, and it evolved and evolved. It’s like filling in a crossword puzzle. You know that word has got to be abracadabra, right? Because there’s no other word it can be until you get halfway through and you see that the word down the middle has a P in the middle of abracadabra and there is no P. So therefore, one of them has to be wrong. They can’t both be right. And the same thing is true about structuring a drama. You go along and say, “I know this has got to happen at the end of the second act,” until you realize you’ve spent two years, and it doesn’t work. So something’s wrong. Either the first and third acts are wrong or the second act is wrong. How am I going to fix it? The structure is the whole thing — getting the movie to eat up 15 lines on a sheet of paper so you can write it"


    Upon further reading, wow, this guy is like a classic example of Holographical-Panoramic cognition.

    From Gulenko's cognitive styles: "According to Aristotle, Holographic cognition corresponds to explanation by structural or formative causes. Aristotle called it the structure of form. Returning to the sculptor example, the cause of the sculpture is its latent form, which the sculptor merely sets free by cutting away excess marble."

    Interviewer:How do you make a genre film your own?
    Mamet: Well, you can’t help but make a distinct movie. If you give yourself up to the form, it’s going to be distinctively your own because the form’s going to tell you what’s needed. That’s one of the great things I find about working in drama is you’re always learning from the form. You’re always getting humbled by it. It’s exactly like analyzing a dream. You’re trying to analyze your dreams. You say, “I know what that means; I know exactly what that means; why am I still unsettled?” You say, “Let me look a little harder at this little thing over here. But that’s not important; that’s not important; that’s not important. The part where I kill the monster — that’s the important part, and I know that means my father this and da da da da da. But what about this little part over here about the bunny rabbit? Why is the bunny rabbit hopping across the thing? Oh, that’s not important; that’s not important.” Making up a drama is almost exactly analogous to analyzing your dreams. That understanding that you cleanse just like the heroes cleanse not from your ability to manipulate the material but from your ability to understand the material. It’s really humbling, just like when you finally have to look at what that little bunny means. There’s a reason why your mind didn’t want to see that. There’s a reason why you say, “Oh, that’s just interstitial material. Fuck that. That’s nothing, right?” Because that’s always where the truth lies, it’s going to tell you how to reformulate the puzzle.
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    Mamet? You want to type Mamet? God, I feel so 'in the know' when people want to type playwrights. Let me think about this, but as of right now the beta quadra doesn't offend me.


    EDIT: I mean... There are just so many 'fuck's in all of his stuff. He certainly doesn't care about offending people for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
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    He is not.
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    Yes he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Yes he is.
    No he's not.
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    Ti > Te

    That's about as specific as I care to get on this one.
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