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In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.
They get someone who takes them out to experience a sensory world; you may remember how the thinking ENTp Einstein used to remove himself from society and roominate, well, an SEI takes them out with their caring nature.
Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
Last edited by Kent Lorne; 08-09-2013 at 08:17 PM.
But there comes a point where I naturally start to look at everything I'm doing with a critical eye, and I begin to aggressively cut things down and Si perfectionism kicks in. The feeling of freedom is gone. Suddenly it's like all the structures I've created, I'm actually destroying in my act of whittling down, but I'm so good at "correcting" that I just keep on going. It's dangerous too, because that "correction," unlike the stage of generation, is a highly conscious area of competence--unlike the "aesthetic instinct," it feels stronger because I understand it on a very practical and logical level. For that very reason, it can become a little ruthless.
This is where, I think, Ne might come in and fix things. Rather than allowing Si to continuously whittling down on one point until it becomes nothing, Ne shows all a) all the ideas and structures that have been created already through Si instinct, and b) all the progressive possibilities that are now existant having reached that particular point. It forces the Si to move forward. I think Ne opens up a new box of futures at each "stage" of time, and then the Si makes one of those futures into the current reality in a "punctuated leap" sort of way, and at that stage Ne comes in with an entire new box of possible futures.
I had a close ILE female friend at some point who, like me, was very invested in writing poems. We would meet at a pie shop sometimes and eat scones and look at each others' work! We were both very ambitious and somehow naturally felt that the advice given to us from the other was more directly useful than the advice given to us by others. What would usually happen is, she would look at my stuff and I'd be like "I put in so much work but it was weirdly subconscious I have no idea what I did or if it works!" And she'd be like "I know you can't see this but these structures you've created across these several pages...they're actually interacting with each other in such and such a complicated way" etc, or "no don't do that thing, it'll destroy X and Y" and it would help me and I could move forward. Then she would show me her stuff, and she would always be worried that the imagistic detail she used didn't "hold up" and I would show her how her complicated intellectual metaphors actually had a direct correspondence in physical reality, etc, and she usually trusted me completely.
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I am glad it helped! I wish I understood my own dual relationship with my SLE just as well. No matter how much I know.... I still feel like I don't know anything about SLE - IEI duality. I have such a paranoia and fear of the relationship it's insane. Maybe it sounds too good to be true so I am trying to make it sound frightful? I keep thinking the worst consequences of the relationship. Murphy's law for duality! Never loved and feared a creature so equally...
Another metaphor that may fit is that ILE is a restless traveler (mentally at least) and Si base of SEI is the warm home, the only place where he would cared to and could stop and relax.
My guess is that it is not Si, but your conscious but not too proficient Ni. You start running ideas in to the ground with it, and feel trapped when you run out of them. Which is fast if there is no Ne provided.Si perfectionism kicks in
You know those descriptions about how sometimes ILEs have really crazy ideas that people don't understand or believe until years later?
When he was alive, my ILE best friend was convinced in "the future of ____" a lot. His ideas were exciting, and often endearing, but often times I was skeptical or even scared that he was totally out of touch with reality. My reaction was partially also b/c he had mental health issues. Sometimes I was terrified that he couldn't always tell the difference b/t fantasy and reality and was trying to suck me in with him.
Anyway, one of these things that he believed in was the healing powers of ketamine, which I thought was just a bullshit myth. I kept trying to talk him out of it b/c I was worried about his health. He had done extensive research on it and was convinced it was the depression drug of the future. He started injecting himself with it more regularly in the name of "medicine." He had some idea about writing essays about how it was going to change medicine and sending these essays to medical research institutions b/c he was convinced these institutions weren't taking its properties seriously enough. (For obvious reasons, I didn't think this was a very solid idea.)
Anyway, I just read this article:
Not to say that NPR is the be-all end all, or that he wasn't truly crazy about some things, (or maybe i was too closed minded in this case?) but...even given those things, I'm so happy for him that he's now (in death) validated in some way about this one thing that he kept trying to get everyone else to believe.
That's really amazing lemontrees. I am glad he is validated too. I can completely understand feeling scared for someone like that. But I think sometimes people just got to stick with it. I mean that's how all our greats... poets, writers, scientists, artists... through bad bad bad times... through tonnes of doubt and confusion, it all just worked out. Some of the stories I read about scientists and the pain and misery they went through because of several factors, sometimes the church it's... it's horrifying that they still stuck on. But they did. I think there was no choice in the matter. That life was far more organic to them, than living anything else. I don't mean the pain part, more the invention and ideas part. We all benefit so much by them today.
I appreciate your making a thread like this, to highlight your appreciation of your duals. Even though we're semi-duals, it's good to know people out there appreciate my Ne. Sometimes it can feel stressful, with one idea after another, and I get a strong feeling others tend to be worn out sometimes by this ongoing idea generation, when I want to share everything on my mind. I'm glad to know there are people out there who appreciate the freedom and brainstorming.
I don't really know what I like about SEI, I think I hate them less.
The mind a killing weapon
The heart an open wound