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    Perhaps Meryl Streep?



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    Rodney Dangerfield is the most EJ ESE ever.

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    Do you really think Bruce Lee is Se-Esfp? And thats the "flair" hes got? If he is I got a white person to Vi compare him to.And the ILI he hangs out with. Where is his use of Fi?

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    Fran Drescher.

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    oh look a list!


    Wayne Brady
    Neil Diamond
    Christopher Knight
    Nathan Lane
    Judy Reyes
    Sarah Brightman
    Monique Imes
    Harvey Milk
    Dick Van Patten
    Michael Dorn
    Patton Oswalt
    Mandy Patinkin
    Patrick Stewart
    Terry "Hulk Hogan" Bollea
    Pat Buchanan
    Todd Glass
    Emeril Lagasse
    Julie Andrews
    James L. Brooks
    Jamie Foxx
    Colin Mochrie
    Juliane Moore
    J.K. Simmons
    Fred Willard

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    Interesting list. I will examine them more closely later.
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    Holly Willoughby, TV presenter


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    Galen did you forget all the other thousand people you type ESFj, or is this from a while back? The list is a little short.

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    not sure if she was mentioned yet, but Kristin Chenoweth . I sometimes confuse her with Kelly Rippa, who is probably ESE too

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    The type who's my conflictor is the one who always expects a reaction and asks things similar to "whatcha doing there" "how ya doin" "are you going to do this?" and then heavily smiles or laughs and reacts to anything I say, like they want to know all about me and are just way too open. Like this girl who works at this restaurant and always comments about me coming in every time I go there, like "I remember you, you used to come here." "do you like what we make?" And then she has to smile and give more pointless small talk, and say her goodbyes. She probably wants to ask if I'm cold and want to give me a coat or something, ugh. I feel so free when I escape her grasp, although I think she's ESE, with EIEs I feel more trapped because they expect a lot more out of me. I've tried to act like I don't care at all about her, and with these types I try my best to politely decline them by kind of just ignoring, they're just so annoying and go on and on. Ah another big one was my buddy's old GF, she would always expect some kind of reaction from me and want to give me a hug, just way too smothering. I could hardly stand watching them together, they would have little whispers and tickles with each other, just disgusting acts. Then she wanted to vacuum his room, and kept pressuring his decisions. And then I wanted to leave, and she kept apologizing lol. ESEs are so annoying, I can honestly deal fine with any other type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astralsilky View Post
    Yanni



    Incidentally, an old INTp friend of mine couldn't stand Yanni's music, despite liking other new age artists. His complaint? That is was overwhelmingly filled with "pointless enthusiasm" which never came to any "meaningful conclusion."

    Cameron Diaz




    Diane Keaton



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    I mean Mandy Patinkin




    "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

    How curious: (sentence diagramming, now) -- self-identification, history, health - Si. ID of social relation - Si + Fe. The rest is perhaps valuing his dual's Ti-Ne (justice - logical fairness and equilibrium across the big picture). (This is ignoring, of course, the popular attributions of "revenge" to gamma, which admittedly, I see no particular reason to wholly subscribe to as being valid at this point.)
    I see where you're coming there, but justice is Fi, not Ti. However ESFJs take injustice very personally, because Fi is in their id block. They do not insist, however, that everyone help them seek justice for themselves, as an insecure LII would; rather, it's a voluntary thing to them because they try to respect each person's sense of justice.

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    Anette Olzon from Nightwish.



    Tarja is LSI on the other hand.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

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    Some more ESEs:

    Sarah Palin


    Charlie Rose

    After watching a gazillion of his interviews I'm pretty sure about this. His introductions always have a kind of dramatic flair.
    edit: I'm considering EIE now...
    edit: yeah, EIE...

    Linda Cardellini

    Got interested in typing her while watching Freaks and Geeks. Kind of a more subdued ESE.
    edit: Hm, maybe she's EIE too, lol. ok...I'm pretty set on EIE now.

    Michael Gates-Gill

    Wrote a kind of cheesy bestselling autobiography "How Starbucks Saved My Life".

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    Sarah Palin is SEE; when they gave her a budget for her wardrope, she was not rational in her expenditures and turned in an invoice for way way more then the party budgeted to spend on her; she was very impulsive in her spending...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Sarah Palin is SEE; when they gave her a budget for her wardrope, she was not rational in her expenditures and turned in an invoice for way way more then the party budgeted to spend on her; she was very impulsive in her spending...
    That isn't too inconsistent with ESE, it shows weak intuition and . Anyway, there's a thread on her already.

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    Meryl Streep, that's a good one for ESE. I like her as an actress at a very professional or personal level, but can sense the affect she gives off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Anette Olzon from Nightwish.

    I have no idea who this is, but I can sense the from this picture. Not that I would use that to judge, but its just a general notion I have about them. The worst of them always seem nosey/upfront at an emotional level.

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    I'm increasingly less sure about Sarah Palin. Maybe ESI (not SEE though).

    Quote Originally Posted by plantrootz View Post
    Jennifer Love Hewitt


    [youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yuxub7o8NoM[/youtube]
    This, 100%. Good call, person who hasn't posted in 3 years. (This person's typings are really spot-on...I wonder what happened to them?)

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    Have thought for a while now that Danny Baker might be one.


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    Stan Lee

    I wrote an analysis of him on the WSS blog.





    Alison Brie



    Joseph Gordon-Levitt



    I haven't looked at the people I posted above in a while except for Charlie Rose who I am rather sure is EIE.

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    Jennifer Love Hewitt & Alison Brie = ESE for me. That's what I meant in the other thread when I say the ESEs I like are 'E7' - outgoing, bubbly, fun-loving, etc. Cameron Diaz and Katy Perry are similar (ie. E7), but I believe they are SEE, so you can see how I could be confusing the two types... E2 Mariah Carey simply does not factor in...
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    Margot Robbie


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    I think Stacey Dooley may be ESE, or perhaps IEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Tarja is LSI on the other hand.
    SLI. Just the kind of person who says: You just hurt my feelings, but it was kind of funny.(yes this is the ultimate SLI litmus test to bring out their sassy exterior)
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    fyi there are many ese claims in this thread that i'm just not seeing evidence for
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    Stephenie Meyer
    interviewer - XLI


    Natasha Lyonne

    Margot Robbie is an intuitive, maybe ILE
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