"My friend has been cheating on their husband and she's coming to talk to me and we've been talking about her situation. What should I say to her? What should I do? Be supportive or I shouldn't be judmental of her?"
Any advice you can give?
"My friend has been cheating on their husband and she's coming to talk to me and we've been talking about her situation. What should I say to her? What should I do? Be supportive or I shouldn't be judmental of her?"
Any advice you can give?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Who is an LSI? Her or the husband?
EIE tritype 5w4, 4w5, 9w1
As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.
Carl Jung, "Memories, Dreams, Reflections", 1962
Judging from the Alpha-version of it, she wants LSIs to reply.
Warm Regards,
Clowns & Entropy
I wanted to know what Ti would do in that situation.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
So what happened?
I'd tell the friend to talk to confess to her husband right away. It's better to work on the marriage or settle for divorce now than to drag the marriage in denial.
pat answers never work. it really depends on the situation and everyone involved. Are there kids? how long has the cheating been going on? Is your friend in love with the guy she's been cheating with? Does she want to save the marriage or leave the marriage? Ti would maybe try to look at things objectively? Try to figure out the right thing to do, given the facts? What would be most advantageous in the long run? I dunno... more information is needed. But a lot will depend on the values of the persons in question and their style of conflict resolution.
IEI-Fe 4w3
Probably. Most of the LIIs I know would probably ask the husband why the wife wasn't chained to the kitchen stove, and then they'd launch into rambling Republican/Libertarian-tinged monologues on pre-1960s gender roles before muttering a bunch of shit about the Federal Reserve and gold and how "they" are trying to make us all slaves. Conversely, one LII I know of would suggest that since the wife had sexually rejected the husband he ought read that as a signal to join him in exploring the world of buggery.
I'd say this would be the general best answer, and we can end the thread. Like redbaron mentioned, maybe there are other specifics to take into account. I'm just curious why Maritsa asked for an LSI's opinion on the matter... Why would you ask someone in an opposing quadra as you for life advice? I don't understand Maritsa sometimes...
Agreed with what many of you said. After getting details about the situation, I would ask 'what do you want to accomplish?'
Firstly, why not solicit advice from any person provided they're regarded as knowledgeable, thoughtful, wise, experienced, sympathetic, or just simply present and able to lend an ear?
Firstly-and-a-halfly, it's ludicrous to assume that a person is unqualified to field questions on topics outside their stereotypical socionic competencies. LIIs have marital experiences, good and bad, just like anyone of other types, and so in a general sense there should be no problems attending the inquiry of their opinions in such matters. On the other hand I assume Krig to be someone of whom we can say, "He's saving himself for that special person". And so the problem isn't in asking LIIs how to solve a problem of marital infidelity (nor is it Krig's place to condemn all LIIS to a ghetto of total romantic ignorance and awkwardness; watch that false consensus bias and projection, bruh), it's in asking an individual who can't comfortably provide an answer because he's got little personal frame of reference.
Secondly, the socion fits neatly into a map of 4 zones called quadras, and Ti-valuing Beta (hint: where LSIs live) adjoins Ti-valuing Alpha. It's Te-valuing Gamma that sits kitty-corner to Ti-valuing Alpha. Give that map a look sometime. I suspect you may be lost.
If you are basing something more on situational episodes than you are going by a process of perception rather than by judgment. I'm pretty sure. You essentially have to see it, to realize it or understand it, either by a product of sense perception or intuitive perception and your answer indicates just that. You can't consciously judge without the particular scenario or the instance of that moment. But, I'm asking for an analysis; what steps of thought one goes through not just the final answer.
per·ceive/pərˈsēv/
Verb:
Become aware or conscious of (something); come to realize or understand.
Become aware of (something) by the use of one of the senses, esp. that of sight.
I, on the other hand, have built a concept and now am using that as a base to judge that against all other responses. I'm looking around to judge. Not in a mean way though.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Why then are you asking for a process if you mean a result, unless the description of the process is the result you seek?
And what is that concept constructed of, and where does its substance originate, and what imperatives formed its design?I, on the other hand, have built a concept and now am using that as a base to judge that against all other responses. I'm looking around to judge. Not in a mean way though.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Alrighty then:
"My friend has been cheating on their husband and she's coming to talk to me and we've been talking about her situation. What should I say to her? What should I do? Be supportive or I shouldn't be judmental of her?"
Your use of the plural possessive "their" referring to the husband indicates the friend in question is one wife among a number >1, which means she's in a polygamous marriage. This then means that she lives in an islamic country. Since she is an adulterer within one of these nations her relatives are likely to stone or burn her to death when the violation of her marriage vows is discovered. That then being the case I would say to her...
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html