Hello Delta

[fen]

Hello delta. :)

I'm Laura, an EII, Enneagram 6.
I introduced myself a long while ago...probably 8 months ago or so...and never really contributed beyond that. SO, now that I'm sure of my type (well, mostly) I'm re-introducing myself to you guys and all...hehe.

It's really hard for me to push myself to post on threads and all because I don't feel I have much to contribute, or I don't feel like I know enough about things to really say anything worthwhile...haha. I'm also kinda afraid of being wrong about what I contribute..so..heh. But I guess I'll just do it anyway so I can actually be a part of this community. :P Well...maybe...if I can push myself to do so. D:

I've wavered from thinking I'm IEE > EII > IEI > EII again. But EII is the best fit, in my opinion. I decided Fe is something I just...don't...yeah. Haha.

UM! About me, I guess--
I'm a freshman in college. I'm currently planning on being a professor of psycholinguistics, maybe. I don't really know. But...that's the current plan, at least.
My favorite color is purple and I don't know what to put here...haha.
Hi. :)

Okay, maybe there's more to me than that. :P
But...this will suffice for now. :)

[Galen]

Welcome back, we* missed you.


I*

[717495]

We did miss you, actually. Even though I think that sounds kinda weird but who am I to judge me.

[fen]

Haha, I'm not sure what there was so miss, considering the only posts I made were an intro and a "type me" thread. BUT thanks. Maybe I'll actually get to know you guys this time around.

[717495]

Oh I just realized Galen still has that avatar. Maybe I should change mine.

[fen]

Hahaha. You can be Rafiki.. (I think that's his name >.>)

[Cat King Cole]

Welcome back!

I love your avatar btw. It really reminds me of this old game called Phantasy Star Online, but I have no idea why? Maybe it's because it's holgraphically coloured and kind of techy-looking.

[Absurd]

I'm currently planning on being a professor of psycholinguistics, maybe.

That's interesting and hey.

[Pa3s]

Welcome back!

It's really hard for me to push myself to post on threads and all because I don't feel I have much to contribute, or I don't feel like I know enough about things to really say anything worthwhile...haha.

I think this largely depends on how much you contribute at the beginning, just write how you see the discussed issue. If you read more threads, you will post more and therefore check them more often and look if people reacted to what you wrote. It's a cycle.

I'm also kinda afraid of being wrong about what I contribute..so..heh.

Well, most people on here aren't. So don't worry.

[Creepy-Snaps]

I remember welcoming you before, fenryrr. Welcome back!

[Roro]

I don't remember you from before, maybe because I wasn't here, but *jumps Delta* All mine!

What part of Georgia are you in? I'm seriously considering moving there sometime in 2012.

[WVBRY]

I remember I had you confused with Kassie. Identical twins. Hm.

[Galen]

It's really hard for me to push myself to post on threads and all because I don't feel I have much to contribute, or I don't feel like I know enough about things to really say anything worthwhile...haha. I'm also kinda afraid of being wrong about what I contribute..so..heh. But I guess I'll just do it anyway so I can actually be a part of this community. Well...maybe...if I can push myself to do so. D:

Most people on here don't know what they're talking about but that doesn't stop them. You could start by asking questions, or reading other people's posts if you have the patience for it.

I've wavered from thinking I'm IEE > EII > IEI > EII again. But EII is the best fit, in my opinion. I decided Fe is something I just...don't...yeah. Haha.

I agree, you seem Ne-INFj from the old video you posted.

Oh I just realized Galen still has that avatar. Maybe I should change mine.

Why do you like to copy people so much?

[717495]

Why do you like to copy people so much?

No I said noticed Galen still has the lion king one after I already switched, I didn't want to copy him.

Omg drama.

But is based on your typing of Rafiki as Ne-EII.

[Gilly]

No I said noticed Galen still has the lion king one after I already switched, I didn't want to copy him.

Omg drama.

But is based on your typing of Rafiki as Ne-EII.

Rafiki is way too rambunctious for EII-Ne lol. And no matter what type you are, you are still copying Galen. I wonder if you have some kind of mental barrier that allows you to parrot people without realizing it...Oh wait its called VALUING FE. Jesus.

[Cat King Cole]

Normally, people assume external Quadras are mentally handicapped.

Not Gilly. Gilly thinks his own Quadra is mentally handicapped.

[fen]

Is it weird or excessive if I respond to all of you? :P

I remember I had you confused with Kassie. Identical twins. Hm.

Well, I am adopted... O.o Haha

Most people on here don't know what they're talking about but that doesn't stop them. You could start by asking questions, or reading other people's posts if you have the patience for it.

I agree, you seem Ne-INFj from the old video you posted.

I read everyone's posts in threads..maybe I shouldn't. It's just the talking part I'm bad at. And I should really delete that video---hehe. :P
PS: Thanks for always being super nice to me Galen. You've always been nothing but extraordinarily friendly haha.

What part of Georgia are you in? I'm seriously considering moving there sometime in 2012.

Haha. Umm, I used to live in Marietta, which is a suburb North-East of Atlanta. Pretty nice place I guess. I live in a more rural college town now for school though in Southern Georgia. One of my favorite parts about Georgia is how in the summer after it rains if you are driving around just normal suburban streets in residential areas, it looks like you are in a jungle because the trees hang over the road and they are really green and the kudzu that has engulfed them is even greener and dangles down...and the rain makes everything misty. Kinda neat. :P Why are you interested in living here? :)

I remember welcoming you before, fenryrr. :lol: Welcome back!

Thanks for the second welcome. :P

Welcome back!
I think this largely depends on how much you contribute at the beginning, just write how you see the discussed issue. If you read more threads, you will post more and therefore check them more often and look if people reacted to what you wrote. It's a cycle.
Well, most people on here aren't. So don't worry. :)

Thanks for the advice. :) And yes--haha, there seem to be some people who don't really care about what they are saying. >.> I don't think I could ever not care about that haha. XD

That's interesting and hey.

Thanks! I'm kinda afraid of being a professor though because I'm not the best at explaining things to people. >.> Details.. :P Seems ideal otherwise though. :)

Welcome back!

I love your avatar btw. It really reminds me of this old game called Phantasy Star Online, but I have no idea why? Maybe it's because it's holgraphically coloured and kind of techy-looking.

Thank you. :) It's the logo for Pendulum...I've never heard of that game. O.o -looks it up-

[Pa3s]

I don't think I could ever not care about that haha.

You should keep it in that way you do already, it's much better.

[Absurd]

Thanks! I'm kinda afraid of being a professor though because I'm not the best at explaining things to people. >.> Details.. Seems ideal otherwise though.

I've been asked to teach a long time ago and I declined, but if it works for you and you want to see yourself in that coat, try it, I think.

I'm not best advice giver at all, so ake it easy on me.

[Beautiful sky]

Fe is something you say you don't do, yet you revel, emotionally, in your own jokes, as explained with you laughing (an emotional expression). Hum...I think you do enough Fe.

[fen]

Jokes? Most of my laughs are of uncertainty on this site.
I don't think I value Fe.
I don't like receiving gifts because even if I like the gift I can't be expressive about it. I'm much more of a "thank you very much" type person than a jump up and down in delight type.

The individual is perfectly able to integrate in a group emotional situations, such as people having fun and trading jokes, and sustain that for a long period of time. He is also usually adept at promoting such an atmosphere himself. However, he sees no point in doing so if his own inner emotional state does not prompt him towards that, especially if he does not feel as having positive private feelings towards the other people involved. He is aware of the need to keep a "polite façade" in certain social situations even in the presence of people he personally dislikes or during periods of negative inner emotions, but he refuses to actively attempt to integrate in, or promote, a positive external emotional atmosphere in such occasions. His disinclination for doing so increases along with his feelings of closeness with the individuals present.

^Wikisocion on Fe Ignoring.
I can be a part of a group (by group I mean 2-3 other people)...and I sometimes put on a hyper façade to try to make others feel comfortable or something. But I only can do this when I feel happy and excited myself. Parties are a drain to me because they don't feel like they have any purpose...and whenever I am at them I usually just find a quiet place to sit and talk to someone I already know because I can't get into the jovial atmosphere. It feels incredibly fake.
Extreme expression is not comfortable to me. If this is not indicative of not valuing Fe I don't know what is.

The reasoning behind why I type out my laughter in posts is because I'm *not* comfortable, and I try to hide it.
And I am horrible at jokes. So I don't even bother. The only time I can generate laughter in others is when I do something clumsy.

You seem to be implying that Fi is devoid of emotionality.
If you have something constructive to suggest, I would like you to. But please don't simply discount things without giving an alternative.

[Beautiful sky]

Integrating in an emotional situation means first seeing and experiencing what that emotional situation is.

[fen]

So Fi-egos cannot sense awkwardness or discomfort of others? Or wish to alleviate that discomfort others feel because they empathise? <-- emotional situation.

I guess I worded that "integration" thing wrong. When I'm in a group, I'm always on the edge of it. I never become a central part of a group. One-on-one conversation is natural to me. And no one can get to know me unless I talk to them one-on-one. Otherwise, I am private and usually just nod in appreciation, laugh, or try to change the subject if I can tell someone is getting uncomfortable.

[Beautiful sky]

Fi ego can sense that. But, you started your thread by a lot of emotional cues like laughing (hehe and haha) and such. You don't even know what the emotional situation is and you are attempting to create an atmosphere where there's nothing to empathize with.

[fen]

This is true. I can't deny that I type out laughter and add smilies to text.
So what do you think this indicates, when I am uncomfortable with expression of most sorts in real life...to the point where I am put off by it when others are very emotionally charged (usually excessive hyperness or joy do this), yet I type "hehe" consistently?
I do have to note again that most of my "hehe"s are nervous in nature.

I am here to learn...and simply pointing out what "isn't consistent" in myself is not helping me learn at all.

EDIT: I also want to add that I believe I am Ne-ego...and the only other option apart from Fi is Ti and I am not confident in Ti. You even typed me ILE some time ago. I cannot have both Fe and Ne in my ego.
I'm confused again.

[Beautiful sky]

Why do you do it?

[Creepy-Snaps]

I'm confused again.

That's because you're talking with Maritsa. Maritsa recently said Fe-types are unable to empathize with others.

So Fi-egos cannot sense awkwardness or discomfort of others? Or wish to alleviate that discomfort others feel because they empathise?

Of course they can.

[fen]

Why do you do it?

Probably because I want to be appear pleasant. I'm highly concerned with how I portray myself.

Of course they can.

Hehe, thanks. I guess I was getting the impression from Maritsa that Fi is devoid of concern for others or attempts at alleviate discomfort...or something.
So much confusion...

EDIT: Maybe I add smiley faces so much because in actual human interaction I rely mostly on people's demeanor to tell how they are feeling--how they shift their bodies, slight changes in facial expression. You can tell me you feel wonderful and act all happy, but if something doesn't add up, I know. So maybe I add faces to promote understanding of how I feel. Or something. Because I don't really express it through words well online...though I'm not sure anyone truly does that so well that it reflects their true feeling.. Or maybe this is nonsensical and means nothing. I can't tell. Does this indicate Fe? ... I'm just digging a hole haha.

[Beautiful sky]

I'm highly concerned with how I portray myself.

Why? What does that help you accomplish?

[Beautiful sky]

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...SFp-by-Beskova

http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=SEE

confirmed

[fen]

Umm..I really don't know how to best answer that.
I don't compromise who I am for people...my values remain consistent. However, I know that through text I can appear ascetic and cold...and I try to maintain a sort of comfortable environment for people by trying to counter-act any potential, unintentional harshness.
I don't want to create an image through my words that does not reflect who I really am. And I am not as harsh as I sound through text. So I try to alleviate that by providing my emotional state (through faces and whatnot) along with my words so I am not taken the wrong way...because I can really see how I could be taken as I am not.

So I guess it helps me accomplish proper self-representation.

[fen]

So...I'm SEE now? I thought you said I did not value Fi. But you once claimed I was ILE. So....ILEs value Ne..very clearly. Did my Ne vanish? Also, I am not adequate at Se. Nor do I like it. Or care about it.

EDIT: I rarely dress appropriately for situations. I wear shorts in the winter..I'm not wont to wear jackets. I never know how to properly dress for something. I just stay modest and don't wear anything showy. I stick with gray, black, and...more black. And jeans. I never draw attention to myself through clothing.

SEE unconfirmed.

[Beautiful sky]

Yes, I'm finalizing SEE.

[fen]

On what grounds?
The fact that you said I don't value Fi? Which SEEs value, funnily enough.
Or that I am unconfrontational unless people are telling me I am things that I am not..or when pushed wayyy too far? And the consequences of doing so are negative? Or the fact that I'm shaking because I feel like nothing I am saying is getting through, and I don't know how to handle being pushed like this?

You are speaking in absolutes about someone you do not know.

[Beautiful sky]

So...I'm SEE now? I thought you said I did not value Fi. But you once claimed I was ILE. So....ILEs value Ne..very clearly. Did my Ne vanish? Also, I am not adequate at Se. Nor do I like it. Or care about it.

I was saying Fi base not Fi valuing.

EDIT: I rarely dress appropriately for situations. I wear shorts in the winter..I'm not wont to wear jackets. I never know how to properly dress for something. I just stay modest and don't wear anything showy. I stick with gray, black, and...more black. And jeans. I never draw attention to myself through clothing.

That is variable based on the culture/society/socio-economic situations of the person.

[fen]

You're missing the fact that I don't value Se in the slightest.

And no, I dress simply..because I don't want attention for what I wear. I'd rather someone be drawn to me for who I am.
It is not PHYSICALLY appropriate to wear shorts in winter. That has nothing to do with culture...or my income.

You can maintain I am SEE as avidly as you wish, but it lacks evidence, and I can't sit here and continue to care that you insist on misunderstanding me. No more, please.

[Beautiful sky]

On what grounds?

You open a thread in which you present yourself as a pleasant person to ease your path into the conversation and ease others into accepting your presence; this allows you to be aware of your social surroundings and estimate the "weight" or significance of different people; if SEE wants to have something, they will go so far as to say that the person has no authority, in attempts to discredit the person's own "stance" so long as their aim is accomplished;

Your humor creates the ability for a person to gain acceptance and trust of the group very quickly; to dampen or control conflict. "He can quickly charm this group with his well-bred manners, genuine displays of like/dislike, and sometimes risky humor."

If your objective and motivation here is to simply be coined a type than you would easily agree with the person giving you a type with moderate agreement. But, if you have one which you want support than nothing will help. You noticed a "confrontational" behavior when I confirmed your type and hence you jumped to say "unconfirmed." That is sense perception at work; noticing things in the immediate moment, taking decisive action in the form of strategy to stop or divert the action to the person's own advantageous position http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p..._and_strategic.


SEE
Politician*
flair, playfulness; socialites; physical center of attention; hands-on involvement in world around them

You said, "I am uncomfortable with expression of most sorts in real life...to the point where I am put off by it when others are very emotionally charged (usually excessive hyperness or joy do this), yet I type "hehe" consistently?" Yet you know exactly how you want to come off.
SEE are able to "creating an outwards appearance of indifference and unimpressiveness" when they want to; it's all about what they want not what society or other need from them because the majority of power, will, and control is in doing not what others see fit or fitting but what you want.


You know how you come off yet you come off plain and dark. So, maybe that's how you want to come off, plain and dark since you know how you portray yourself.

[fen]

I would not be averse to LOGICAL conclusions about my type. And the fact that you aren't listening to what I am saying is frustrating.

Yes, I want to come off as I am. I am not the most outwardly expressive person in the world. But I am friendly. And through text I feel I come off as too cold-cut...so I try to make sure I portray myself as I am..and add smiles because I AM smiling. If that's indicative of Se, fine.
I don't care what people think of me as long as they don't like the REAL me. If they get the wrong impression of me, and base their opinion off that, I feel lost. So yes, I care that people understand who I really am. I don't try to maintain favorable relations with people who don't like the real me. So I try to make sure the real me is what people see.

I'm done defending myself, once again, against your tactless badgering and insistence on being correct about something you cannot truly know.

And for the record, I hate fighting. And badgering. And politicians are not people who I admire or would ever wish to be.

And I am 99% certain I am not an extrovert.

[Absurd]

Ahh I see you met Maritsa already. Don't mind her, she left her brain in the laundromat.

[willekeurig]

Hello supposed identical! I'm not the most confident online-typer, but I read through the thread and feel like I can relate to a lot of what you have said about yourself and also following your traing of thought is easy. Soo based on that your self-typing seems very legit to me. Funny thing that I too was typed as SEE by maritsa