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    Well hello everyone!
    I was introduced to this forum by a friend of mine and thought I might have as well given it a go, so here I am. I'm not that into socionics, but I've taken the MBTI test countless times and always came out as being an ENTJ. I'm a 23-year old girl currently doing a master's in Corporate Social Responsibility.

    I will soon post something so as to read what you have to say about my type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    I'm a 23-year old girl currently
    Currently? Does that mean you plan to change the 'girl' part soon, or the age part, or both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerorobyn View Post
    Currently? Does that mean you plan to change the 'girl' part soon, or the age part, or both?
    Erhm, it was actually referred to the master's, but I'll keep you posted if I'll ever wake up being a 45-year old man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Hi.

    Corporate Social Responsibility? What is that supposed to be?
    An oxymoron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    Erhm, it was actually referred to the master's, but I'll keep you posted if I'll ever wake up being a 45-year old man
    I used an imaginary comma between "currently" and "doing."

    Have you ever had fantasies about becoming a 45-year-old man?

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    Guys be nice to her lol
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    Hey, it's FDG's irl friend, hi.

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    Hahah wasn't expecting all this feedback!

    Ashton and Slacker: eheh skeptics, my favourites! The name says it all really, I could summarize it by saying that it aims at going beyond the corporate bottom line by acknowledging the social and political role played by corporations. From a pragmatical point of view there are means, strategies and policies that can be adopted. Because it's a wide topic though there are many issues that can be tackled from many perspectives. If you're really interested in what all of this is about we can have a chat about it.

    Aerorobyn: haha not so far, no.

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    Oh, I can imagine what it entails. I just can't imagine a corporation hiring you. LOL. Whom will you work for?
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    Most big companies are required to compile a separate part of the balance sheet dedicated to this kind of stuff...at least they are in italy and europe, not sure about the US. So there is actually a market for such specialization, even tho it might sound fluffy.
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    The engineering firm I used to work for also contracted "environmental specialists", which sounded great - people would hire environmental engineers and other environmental specialsts to help them make better environmental choices. Yay! But really their job was to help corporations find loopholes to avoid environmental regulations. So I am skeptical of all this kind of stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    Oh, I can imagine what it entails. I just can't imagine a corporation hiring you. LOL. Whom will you work for?
    It depends on your area of interest and personal aptitude, really. The range of jobs goes from NGOs, to international organizations, governmental agencies and corporations. The worse the company, the greater the need for a csr expert (i.e. BP right now, Shell, Nike and Nestlč in the past) I'd personally go for a position in a corporation, or in policy developing in governmental organizations.

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    Oh I was just responding to the job market question, no clue if it's all fake accounting just for image purposes. Might very well be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    The engineering firm I used to work for also contracted "environmental specialists", which sounded great - people would hire environmental engineers and other environmental specialsts to help them make better environmental choices. Yay! But really their job was to help corporations find loopholes to avoid environmental regulations. So I am skeptical of all this kind of stuff.
    Yup, unfortunately this is still the general behaviour of most corporations. For instance, one of the main reasons for the adoption of codes of conduct is to prevent the government from legislating in the matter and interfere with the company's activities. Which from some points of view is even good, but not when speaking about environmental standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Lol, that was my 1st thought. I just wanted to see if there was more to it and something I was maybe missing.
    Says the guy who's pushing for corporations to run the world...
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    Welcome to the forum. Sounds like a tough job trying to balance the ethics of a corporation and their pressure on you to find loopholes and cut corners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    No way. Corporations are creatures of the state and I wouldn't want them running the world any more than government.
    Smash the state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    No way. Corporations are creatures of the state and I wouldn't want them running the world any more than government.
    So you think they would just magically disappear without the government. That's really cute, Ashton.

    People are always going to form larger and larger groups in order to promote personal security and accrue the power of the pack. They will always cheat and endanger each other at a distance for personal gain. Accept these basic facts of human nature and build your worldview accordingly.
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    Welcome, Lou.

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    I want to see him smashing U.S. state. I vote for Ashton as the next anarchist president. You can buy bombs off me anytime you want Ashton.

    War is big business.

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    Welcome to the forum.

     
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    I want to see him smashing U.S. state. I vote for Ashton as the next anarchist president. You can buy bombs off me anytime you want Ashton.

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    This is a nice early introduction to how dysfunctional this forum is.

    Welcome Lou!
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    Hi Lou. Please enjoy your stay and have fun type-warmongering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Corporations are creatures of the state
    I beleive thats called fascism

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    Vote for Ron Paul!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    I beleive thats called fascism
    I'm afraid that's wrong. I mean, that's what happens when people start to take things on faith so you're not blame, society is...

    It's called corporatism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Yet without a statutory monopoly (government) to enforce such contractual arrangements, it's a fair question as to whether corporations—at least in their present form—would be able to survive and thrive in a stateless society.
    Can you show me a stateless society and are there banks in your stateless society or do you exchange goods via fruits and vegetables?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Remittance businesses are also morphing into private depository/lending institutions and will likely contribute the development of a Somali banking sector.
    You never disappoint me Ashton.

    Just as I thought - banking sector emerges. The pricipal and primary function of banks is to serve as an intermediary in the making of payments. In doing so they transfer inactive money capital into active money capital, that is profit.

    But to the point.

    Don't you think it's impossible for those banks to transfrom into monopolies from previous modest intermediaries?

    Click me

    All in all, I think it is time for 16types to land in Somalia and become Moslems if not voluntarily, then by force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    I'm afraid that's wrong. I mean, that's what happens when people start to take things on faith so you're not blame, society is...
    Not sure what you mean by this

    It's called corporatism.
    Corporatism yes...though I guess you can call it whatever you want, as long as its not confused with the concept of a corporation (supposed ) being independant from the state in the concept of free market capitalism. Sure corporations profit from their legal status within the state and from legal protection as well. But typically free market capitalists beleive that corporations are the enemy of the state, economically - that the state should interfere only in affairs of civil and social order and not in matters of economics.

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