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    SEE fits best on a personal, deep, core level... although EIE still best explains my intertype relations.

    However, I am waiting for an ILI to show up in my life and then we will see.


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    You're not anything, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    I declare myself... for good
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    we will see.


    Sounds good to me. If I go Delta, I don't want you in an opposing quadra.

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    For PERMANENT you guys!!!

    Probably.

    No offense, but the louder you tell the world around you, the more loudly you're trying to tell yourself. You're a 4 or a 3 or whatever, embrace that your sense of self is fluid. It'll do you good, and open you up to less mockery.

    Also, this thread smacks of Malia's past behaviour... You're not convincing anyone you're not some kind of Fe ego.

    Accusations and observations aside, why the sudden decision?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat King Cole View Post
    No offense, but the louder you tell the world around you, the more loudly you're trying to tell yourself. You're a 4 or a 3 or whatever, embrace that your sense of self is fluid. It'll do you good, and open you up to less mockery.
    I like your enneagram knowledge. On the other thread too. You seem to be great at identifying people's true natures. I appreciate your contribution.

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    You reek Fe.

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    I declare myself a monkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    I declare myself a monkey.
    That's the declaration of interspeciance.

    ... maybe I'm trying too hard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    You're not anything, sorry.
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    You reek Fe.
    It's not a rule that members have to take threads seriously and/or critically, though this doesn't really accomplish anything but force a box upon someone without checking yourself and reassessing why that box should be there in the first place.

    That said, ScarlettLux seems like a Decisive Ethical Extravert(EIE, SEE) to me, but if she weren't, the only Introverted type that seems likely is IEI. I'm in for Irrational, so SEE or IEI, in my opinion.
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    Ashton, just because you dislike me because I dislike you (lol) doesn't mean I can't be an SEE-Se. Sorry2say. Is everyone in a quadra supposed to be BFFs? No.

    I made this sudden decision MDew, because Traveler met me and he thinks SEE > EIE. BTW he notices Fi valuing over Fe as the most obvious reason for it. I started reading SEE descriptions more carefully, etc... and I just think it really does describe me.


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    IEI-Fe
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Well if you are, I hope you come off different IRL than you do online
    but who knows.

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    Why don't people like SL? I had no idea.

    I don't know what type you are but SEEs do have demonstrative Fe. I guess so kind of seem Beta-ish to me but, again, I have no strong opinion at all.
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    OMG. I AM NOT AN INTROVERT GILLY. I AM NOT IxxP TEMPERAMENT. I'LL TAKE EIE INTO CONSIDERATION BUT DEFINITELY NOT IEI.. Please everyone get that straight There is no way in hell I am an IEI


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    Why don't people like SL? I had no idea.

    I don't know what type you are but SEEs do have demonstrative Fe. I guess so kind of seem Beta-ish to me but, again, I have no strong opinion at all.
    You are sweet, thanks. I know people don't like me because I come across sort of vapid and silly on here. People think I'm stupid and do not bother getting to know who I am besides what I present. I sort of have foot in mouth disease as well. I just blurt things out. Don't really think much about what I post on here. I am also confrontational and reactive to a fault. People find it easy to pick on me because they are amused by the over exaggerated reactions I have.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    OMG. I AM NOT AN INTROVERT GILLY. I AM NOT IxxP TEMPERAMENT. I'LL TAKE EIE INTO CONSIDERATION BUT DEFINITELY NOT IEI.. Please get that straight
    Alpha vs. Gamma conflict?

    *pot stirred*

    @Slacker, I like SL too. Smart, bold, beautiful, what's not to like? Maybe the haters are just jealous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain LSE View Post
    Alpha vs. Gamma conflict?

    *pot stirred*

    @Slacker, I like SL too. Smart, bold, beautiful, what's not to like? Maybe the haters are just jealous.
    Aww

    lol I know they're not "jealous" ... I'm easy to troll. Ask thePirate.

    Are you saying Gilly is Alpha?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain LSE View Post
    That's the declaration of interspeciance.

    ... maybe I'm trying too hard?
    No, you don't you're Mountain LSE.

    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    I(EIE, SEE) to me, but if she weren't, the only Introverted type that seems likely is IEI.
    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Ashton, just because you dislike me because I dislike you (lol) doesn't mean I can't be an SEE-Se. Sorry2say. Is everyone in a quadra supposed to be BFFs? No.

    I made this sudden decision MDew, because Traveler met me and he thinks SEE > EIE.
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    You're soft as dough.

    Anyhow, SL you have to kill a few people on here just to say you're SEE...

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    Yeah, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    SEE fits best on a personal, deep, core level... although EIE still best explains my intertype relations.

    However, I am waiting for an ILI to show up in my life and then we will see.
    I think you could be either. There is little practical difference between Se-Fi and Ne-Fi.

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    fwiw Gilly typed me as IEI before we met irl. You could be SEE. Personally, I haven't seen much from you that ever really said Fi to me though. I agree with Gul that you are probably a 3/4 and you have some image issues that you haven't worked out. I don't know what you're dealing with in life right now that makes you so, and it isn't my business. But I do think it is why some people react negatively to you on the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    OMG. I AM NOT AN INTROVERT GILLY. I AM NOT IxxP TEMPERAMENT. I'LL TAKE EIE INTO CONSIDERATION BUT DEFINITELY NOT IEI.. Please everyone get that straight There is no way in hell I am an IEI
    OH MY GOD FREAK OUT HARDER ITS GOING TO CHANGE MY OPINION

    Fucking harpy.

    Some IEI-Fes are really outgoing, sometimes even aggressive. They can be really active and busybodies. I suppose you could be EIE but SEE is way off IMO.

    Re: what dolphin said, you two strike me very differently and my typing of her as IEI was more a diagnosis of elimination than anything, whereas when I saw pictures and videos of you in the past, IEI was the first type to mind.
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    Some IEIs are really aggressive. Some SEEs are really soft-spoken. Gilly what is your point here? And this coming from someone who has made a gazillion self typing threads and is STILL unsure of his own type. So really, can you talk? Now you're xLE-Ti?

    If you met me in person you would REALLY know that I'm not an introvert. That's one thing I'm sure of.


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    There are a lot of misconceptions about Se's or even SEEs because of bad things that have been attached to them that have nothing to do with Socionics. SEE can be anything from shy and reserved to outspoken and loud, to mean and manipulative and kind and giving. Those things have nothing to do with Se. Se is mere perception, viewing, absorbing, taking in through the senses; this allows the person to be highly aware of reality, highly in the real world and their senses in it, observing colors, anything physical, that exists and then responding to people from their subjective emotional evaluations of what goes on in relation to them and others.

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    I'm not going to say you're not Fi, and I'm not going to say you're definitely Fe. Maybe you are Fi, maybe you aren't - but I haven't met you in the real world yet, and I know personas can be different via the virtual world compared to the real world. The only thing I know is, I don't have much trouble engaging with Fi types on this forum, where as you seem somewhat standoff-ish when I try to approach you. But I really can't use you not being very sociable towards me as an indicator of your type - that wouldn't be very valid. So, *shrug* if you say you're SEE, then we can go with SEE - until people meet you offline and get the real gist of your personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Some IEIs are really aggressive. Some SEEs are really soft-spoken. Gilly what is your point here? And this coming from someone who has made a gazillion self typing threads and is STILL unsure of his own type. So really, can you talk? Now you're xLE-Ti?

    If you met me in person you would REALLY know that I'm not an introvert. That's one thing I'm sure of.
    Blah blah blah, same old shit everyone says...I've been at this for a while, you think just because I don't know my own type means everything else I know is worthless? Are you really that simple? Do you genuinely think I'm stupid? Please.

    It's easy to say that kind of shit. Boring. "WAAHH COME GET SOME!" Please.
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    I have met SL recently a few days ago, so I'd like to offer my opinion. I think Se-SEE is the most likely type based on my interactions with her and with other people. She seems to value over and I think a lot of what is misconstrued as is really just her . It was funny at the beginning of the night I thought she was EIE, but by the end of the night I thought she was SEE as I got to know her better. I will not rule out another type, but it was pretty obvious upon meeting her that she is extraverted and ethical. So that leaves EIE as a possibility, but there is no way she is an IEI as I can assure you that she is not introverted at all.
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    What makes an "obvious" Extratim though? Their extraversion? The predominance of Xe (through thematic focuses e.g. Interest, challenge, passion) in their speech? Something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat King Cole View Post
    What makes an "obvious" Extratim though? Their extraversion? The predominance of Xe (through thematic focuses e.g. Interest, challenge, passion) in their speech? Something else?
    Yes pretty much that plus where they derive their energy from. Is it from within or from the outside world? Some people may be difficult to determine whether they are extraverted or introverted, but for other people it can be pretty obvious if all the evidence points towards it.
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    Awesome

    Damn it to hell, I was going to figure this one out for good, then I realized the best thing to do would be to make a few more videos of me so that more resources would be available for everyone to clear stuff up; compare, contrast, etc. I'll need questions to answer; there's no two-way conversation to be made with a glass lens...

    A meetup would rule too; need to do some of those, this is quicker though...

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    Ashton. We barely talk at all.

    Woof - Traveler & I will make a video next time we meet up. It'll be sort of awkward though. Any questions we should answer? This question is open for everyone

    Also let me just say that a bunch of self professed ILIs on this forum don't see a problem with me being their dual.. it seems the only type that is really against me being SEE are LIEs on this forum.. FDG, Ashton.. who else? Actually I don't know about FDG.


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    SL, I think that's their penises typing you, lol.
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    My gut says EIE but I don't think SEE is out of the question. You seem a bit dramatic for the gamma quadra lol. It's hard to say since I haven't talked with you a lot or met you like some other people on the forum.
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    Well well well.

    I don't think you witnessed gamma drama in its full glory yet Bardia. Ever been in IRC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardia View Post
    You seem a bit dramatic for the gamma quadra lol.
    el oh el

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    el oh el
    you're so fake it makes my eyes bleed
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    you're so fake it makes my eyes bleed
    What colour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Aww

    lol I know they're not "jealous" ... I'm easy to troll. Ask thePirate.

    Are you saying Gilly is Alpha?
    I'm suggesting it, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Blah blah blah, same old shit everyone says...I've been at this for a while, you think just because I don't know my own type means everything else I know is worthless? Are you really that simple? Do you genuinely think I'm stupid? Please.

    It's easy to say that kind of shit. Boring. "WAAHH COME GET SOME!" Please.
    To Te-valuers, the accuracy of the statement made isn't necessarily as important as the credibility of the person making the statement. Even if you're right, Gilly, the fact that you wobble between types devalues your opinion in this case. For me, I type-switch too, but the difference is that I don't go around telling someone else that they can't be a certain type.

    SL, I can see SEE. But really, you remind me of someone on my business team, also who I type SEE, who also doesn't smile very widely in pictures. I get an Fi-vibe from you, of course with the Se. You like to challenge people. EIEs come across more like they enjoy influencing people, imo, and can use Ni in a way that borders manipulative.

    I don't see that from you at all. Furthermore, I feel 75%+ people on this forum confuse Fe with high emotionality. That's why I can come across ESE-ish to many people, which might not necessarily be the case. SL, when I see you become emotional, it's more in a REACTION to what someone else has said. You don't PROACTIVELY influence the emotions of other people, or cheer people up, or show any desire to do so. You seem to simply want to stand your ground.

    TLDR: Back off Gilly, and I vote SEE.

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