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    Lucian's own close investigations into Alexander of Abonoteichus's methods of fraud led to a serious attempt on his life. The whole account gives a graphic description of the inner working of one among the many new oracles that were springing up at this period. Alexander had remarkable beauty and the striking personality of the successful charlatan, and must have been a man of considerable intellectual abilities and power of organization. His usual methods were those of the numerous oracle-mongers of the time, of which Lucian gives a detailed account: the opening of sealed inquiries by heated needles, a neat plan of forging broken seals, and the giving of vague or meaningless replies to difficult questions, coupled with a lucrative blackmailing of those whose inquiries were compromising.

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    The Red Queen's race is an incident that appears in Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking-Glass and involves the Red Queen, a representation of a Queen in chess, and Alice constantly running but remaining in the same spot.

    "Well, in our country," said Alice, still panting a little, "you'd generally get to somewhere else—if you run very fast for a long time, as we've been doing."

    "A slow sort of country!" said the Queen. "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    Between Heaven and Hell: A Dialog Somewhere Beyond Death with John F. Kennedy, C. S. Lewis, & Aldous Huxley is a novel by Peter Kreeft about U.S. President John F. Kennedy, and authors C. S. Lewis (The Chronicles of Narnia) and Aldous Huxley (Brave New World) meeting in Purgatory and engaging in a philosophical discussion on faith. It was inspired by the fact that all three men died on the same day: November 22, 1963. We see from the three points of view: Kennedy's "modern Christian" view, Lewis's "conservative Christian" or "mere Christian" view, and Huxley's "Orientalized Christian" view. The book progresses as Lewis and Kennedy discuss Jesus' being God incarnate, to Lewis and Huxley discussing whether or not Jesus was a deity or "just a good person."

    An expanded edition was published by InterVarsity Press on May 16, 2008.
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    The shape of the human face would go on evolving, too, as diet altered. (It seems to be only after AD 1066 that the edge-to-edge bite gave way among Anglo-Saxons to the overbite which was the ultimate consequence of a shift to more starch and carbohydrate, a development of some importance for the later appearance of the English.)
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    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”
    C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

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    Yes, what a day. I joked before that JFK was a distraction while the real target was Lewis. lol. Lewis and Huxley were both overshadowed because of JFK's death.

    It popularized the "what 3 dead people would you like to have a conversation with" thing.
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    Well, you wonder why I always dress in black,
    Why you never see bright colors on my back,
    And why does my appearance seem to have a somber tone.
    Well, there's a reason for the things that I have on.

    I wear the black for the poor and the beaten down,
    Livin' in the hopeless, hungry side of town,
    I wear it for the prisoner who has long paid for his crime,
    But is there because he's a victim of the times.

    I wear the black for those who never read,
    Or listened to the words that Jesus said,
    About the road to happiness through love and charity,
    Why, you'd think He's talking straight to you and me.

    Well, we're doin' mighty fine, I do suppose,
    In our streak of lightnin' cars and fancy clothes,
    But just so we're reminded of the ones who are held back,
    Up front there ought 'a be a Man In Black.

    I wear it for the sick and lonely old,
    For the reckless ones whose bad trip left them cold,
    I wear the black in mournin' for the lives that could have been,
    Each week we lose a hundred fine young men.

    And, I wear it for the thousands who have died,
    Believen' that the Lord was on their side,
    I wear it for another hundred thousand who have died,
    Believen' that we all were on their side.

    Well, there's things that never will be right I know,
    And things need changin' everywhere you go,
    But 'til we start to make a move to make a few things right,
    You'll never see me wear a suit of white.

    Ah, I'd love to wear a rainbow every day,
    And tell the world that everything's OK,
    But I'll try to carry off a little darkness on my back,
    'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black

    -Johnny Cash
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    “Woman, you see, is an object of such a kind that study it as much as you will, it is always quite new.” -Tolstoy
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    THE FIRST and the simplest emotion which we discover in the human mind, is Curiosity. By curiosity, I mean whatever desire we have for, or whatever pleasure we take in, novelty. We see children perpetually running from place to place, to hunt out something new: they catch with great eagerness, and with very little choice, at whatever comes before them; their attention is engaged by everything, because everything has, in that stage of life, the charm of novelty to recommend it. But as those things, which engage us merely by their novelty, cannot attach us for any length of time, curiosity is the most superficial of all the affections; it changes its object perpetually, it has an appetite which is very sharp, but very easily satisfied;

    - Burke

    Sounds like he is talking about Ne. and Me.
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    A scientist places an ad in a Paris newspaper offering a free horoscope. He receives about 150 replies, each, as requested, detailing a place and time of birth. Every respondent is then sent the identical horoscope, along with a questionnaire asking how accurate the horoscope had been. Ninety-four per cent of the respondents (and 90 per cent of their families and friends) reply that they were at least recognizable in the horoscope. However, the horoscope was drawn up for a French serial killer. If an astrologer can get this far without even meeting his subjects, think how well someone sensitive to human nuances and not overly scrupulous might do.
    Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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    IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE reading a book about the Cosmos. You find it so interesting that you go out and buy a telescope. One fine clear moonless night you set up your telescope and focus on the brightest star in the sky. It is a planet, not a star, with a reddish spot and several moons. Excited, you look up the planets in your book about the Cosmos. You read a description of the planets. You read a sentence about a large yellowish planet with a red spot and several moons. You recognize both the description and the picture. Clearly, you have been looking at Jupiter.

    You have no difficulty at all in saying that it is Jupiter, not Mars or Saturn, even though the object you are looking at is something you have never seen before and is hundreds of millions of miles distant.

    Now imagine that you are reading the newspaper. You come to the astrology column. You may or may not believe in astrology, but to judge from the popularity of astrology these days, you will probably read your horoscope. According to a recent poll, more Americans set store in astrology than in science or God.

    You are an Aries. You open your newspaper to the astrology column and read an analysis of the Aries personality. It says among other things:

    You have the knack of creating an atmosphere of thought and movement, unhampered by petty jealousies. But you have the tendency to scatter your talents to the four winds.

    Hm, you say, quite true. I’m like that.
    Suddenly you realize you’ve made a mistake. You’ve read the Gemini column. So you go back to Aries:

    Nothing hurts you more than to be unjustly mistreated or suspected. But you have a way about you, a gift for seeing things through despite all obstacles and distractions. You also have a desperate need to be liked. So you have been wounded more often than you will admit.

    Hm, you say, quite true. I’m like that.
    The first question is: Why is it that both descriptions seem to fit you—or, for that matter, why do you seem to recognize yourself in the self-analysis of all twelve astrological signs? Or, to put it another way, why is it that you can recognize and identify the planets Jupiter and Venus so readily after reading a bit and taking one look, yet have so much trouble identifying yourself from twelve descriptions when, presumably, you know yourself much better than you know Jupiter and Venus?

    (2) Can you explain why it is that there are, at last count, sixteen schools of psychotherapy with sixteen theories of the personality and its disorders and that patients treated in one school seem to do as well or as badly as patients treated in any other—while there is only one generally accepted theory of the cause and cure of pneumococcal pneumonia and only one generally accepted theory of the orbits of the planets and the gravitational attraction of our galaxy and the galaxy M31 in Andromeda? (Hint: If you answer that the human psyche is more complicated than the pneumococcus and the human white-cell response or the galaxies or Einstein’s general theory of relativity, keep in mind that the burden of proof is on you. Or if you answer that the study of the human psyche is in its infancy, remember then this infancy has lasted 2,500 years and, unlike physics, we don’t seem to know much more about the psyche than Plato did.)

    (3) How do you explain these odd little everyday phenomena with which everyone is familiar:
    You have seen yourself a thousand times in the mirror, face to face. No sight is more familiar. Yet why is it that the first time you see yourself in a clothier’s triple mirror—from the side, so to speak—it comes as a shock? Or the first time you saw yourself in a home movie: were you embarrassed? What about the first time you heard your recorded voice—did you recognize it? Clearly, you should, since you’ve been hearing it all your life.

    Why is it that, when you are shown a group photograph in which you are present, you always (and probably covertly) seek yourself out? To see what you look like? Don’t you know what you look like?

    Has this ever happened to you? You are walking along a street of stores. There are other people walking. You catch a glimpse in a store window of a reflection of a person. For a second or so you do not recognize the person. He, she, seems a total stranger. Then you realize it is your own reflection. Then in a kind of transformation, the reflection does in fact become your familiar self.

    One of the peculiar ironies of being a human self in the Cosmos: A stranger approaching you in the street will in a second’s glance see you whole, size you up, place you in a way in which you cannot and never will, even though you have spent a lifetime with yourself, live in the Century of the Self, and therefore ought to know yourself best of all.

    The question is: Why is it that in your entire lifetime you will never be able to size yourself up as you can size up somebody else—or size up Saturn—in a ten-second look?

    Why is it that the look of another person looking at you is different from everything else in the Cosmos? That is to say, looking at lions or tigers or Saturn or the Ring Nebula or at an owl or at another person from the side is one thing, but finding yourself looking into the eyes of another person looking at you is something else. And why is it that one can look at a lion or a planet or an owl or at someone’s finger as long as one pleases, but looking into the eyes of another person is, if prolonged past a second, a perilous affair?

    (4) The following experiment was performed on a group of ten subjects. See how you would answer the questions.
    Think of five acquaintances, not close friends, not lovers, not family members.

    Describe each by three adjectives (in the experiment, a “personality characteristic chart” was provided on which one could score an acquaintance on a scale of “good” and “bad” qualities, e.g., more or less trustworthy, attractive, boring, intelligent, selfish, flighty, outgoing, introspective, and so on). Thus, you might describe an acquaintance named Gary McPherson as fairly good company, moderately trustworthy, funny but a little malicious, and so on. Or Linda Ellison: fairly good-looking (a 7 or 7˝), more intelligent than she lets on, a good listener. And so on.
    Note that most if not all of your adjectives could be placed on a finite scale, say from a plus ten to a minus ten.
    Now, having described five acquaintances, do the following. Read these two sentences carefully:

    (a) You are extraordinarily generous, ecstatically loving of the right person, supremely knowledgeable about what is wrong with the country, about people, capable of moments of insight unsurpassed by any scientist or artist or writer in the country. You possess an infinite potentiality.

    (b) You are of all people in the world probably the most selfish, hateful, envious (e.g., you take pleasure in reading death notices in the newspaper and in hearing of an acquaintance’s heart attack), the most treacherous, the most frightened, and above all the phoniest.

    Now answer this question as honestly as you can: Which of these two sentences more nearly describes you? CHECK (a), (b), (neither), (both).
    If you checked (both)—60 percent of respondents did—how can that be?

    (5) Do you understand sexuality?
    That is to say, are you happy with either of the two standard versions of sexuality:

    One, the biological—that the sex drive is one among several needs and drives evolved through natural selection as a means of sustaining the life of the organism and ensuring the survival of the species. Thus, sexual desire is one item on a list which includes other such items as hunger, thirst, needs of shelter, nest-building, migration, and so on.

    The other, the religious-humanistic—sex is an expression, perhaps the ultimate expression, of love and communication between a man and a woman, and is best exemplified in marriage, raising children, the sharing of a life, family, home, and fireside.

    Or do you see sexuality as a unique trait of the present-day self (which is the only self we know), occupying an absolutely central locus in the consciousness particularly as it relates to other sexual beings, of an order and magnitude of power incommensurate with other “drives” and also specified by the very structure of the present-day self as its very core and as its prime avenue of intercourse with others?

    If the sexual drive is but one of several biological needs, why are we living in the most eroticized society in history? Why don’t TV, films, billboards, magazines feature culinary delights, e.g., huge chocolate cakes, hams, roasts, strawberries, instead of women’s bodies?

    Or are you more confused about sexuality than any other phenomenon in the Cosmos?

    Do you know why it is that men and women exhibit sexual behavior undreamed of among the other several million species, with every conceivable sexual relation between persons, or with only one person, or between a male and female, or between two male persons, or two female persons, or two males and one female, or two females and one male; relationships moreover which can implicate every orifice and appendage of the human body and which bear no relation to the reproduction and survival of the species?

    Is the following statement true or false:
    Pornography is not an aberration of a few sexually frustrated middle-aged men in gray raincoats; it is rather a salient and prime property of modern consciousness, of three hundred years of technology and the industrial revolution, and is symptomatic of a radical disorder in the relation of the self to other selves which generally manifests itself in the abstracted state of one self (male) and the degradation of another self (female) to an abstract object of satisfaction.

    (6) Consider the following short descriptions of different kinds of consciousness of self. Which of the selves, if any, do you identify with?

    (a) The cosmological self. The self is either unconscious of itself or only conscious of itself insofar as it is identified with a cosmological myth or classificatory system, e.g., totemism. Ask a Bororo tribesman: Who are you? He may reply: I am parakeet. (Ask an L.S.U. fan at a football game: Who are you? He may reply: I am a tiger.)

    (b) The Brahmin-Buddhist self. Who are you? What is your self? My self in this life is impaled on the wheel of non-being, obscured by the veil of unreality. But it can realize itself by penetrating the veil of maya and plumbing the depths of self until it achieves nirvana, nothingness, or the Brahman, God. The atman (self) is the Brahman (God).

    (c) The Christian self (and, to a degree, the Judaic and Islamic self). The self sees itself as a creature, created by God, estranged from God by an aboriginal catastrophe, and now reconciled with him. Before the reconciliation, the self is, as Paul told the Ephesians, a stranger to every covenant, with no promise to hope for, with the world about you and no God. But now the self becomes a son of God, a member of a family of selves, and is conscious of itself as a creature of God embarked upon a pilgrimage in this life and destined for happiness and reunion with God in a later life.

    (d) The role-taking self. One sociological view of the self is that the self achieves its identity by taking roles and modeling its own role from the roles of others, e.g., one’s mother, father, housewife, breadwinner, macho-boy-man, feminine-doll-girl, etc.—and also, as George Mead said, upon how one perceives others’ perceptions of oneself.

    (e) The standard American-Jeffersonian high-school-commencement Republican-and-Democratic-platform self. The self is an individual entity created by God and endowed with certain inalienable rights and the freedom to pursue happiness and fulfill its potential. It achieves itself through work, participation in society, family, the marketplace, the political process, cultural activities, sports, the sciences, and the arts. It follows that in a free and affluent society the self should succeed more often than not in fulfilling itself. Happiness can be pursued and to a degree caught.

    (f) The diverted self. In a free and affluent society, the self is free to divert itself endlessly from itself. It works in order to enjoy the diversions that the fruit of one’s labor can purchase. The pursuit of happiness becomes the pursuit of diversion, and in this society the possibilities of diversion are endless and as readily available as eight hours of television a day: TV, sports, travel, drugs, games, newspapers, magazines, Vegas.

    (g) The lost self. With the passing of the cosmological myths and the fading of Christianity as a guarantor of the identity of the self, the self becomes dislocated, Jefferson or no Jefferson, is both cut loose and imprisoned by its own freedom, yet imprisoned by a curious and paradoxical bondage like a Chinese handcuff, so that the very attempts to free itself, e.g., by ever more refined techniques for the pursuit of happiness, only tighten the bondage and distance the self ever farther from the very world it wishes to inhabit as its homeland. The rational Jeffersonian pursuit of happiness embarked upon in the American Revolution translates into the flaky euphoria of the late twentieth century. Every advance in an objective understanding of the Cosmos and in its technological control further distances the self from the Cosmos precisely in the degree of the advance—so that in the end the self becomes a space-bound ghost which roams the very Cosmos it understands perfectly.

    (h) The scientific and artistic self. Or that self which is so totally absorbed in the pursuit of art or science as to be selfless. The modern caricature is the “absentminded professor” or the demonic possessed artist, which is to say that as a self he is “absent” from the usual concerns of the self about itself in the world. E.g., Karl von Frisch and his bees, Schubert in a beer hall writing lieder on the tablecloth, Picasso in a restaurant modeling animals from bread.

    (i) The illusory self. Or the conviction that one’s sense of oneself is a psychological or cultural illusion and that with the advance of science, e.g., behaviorism, Lévi-Strauss’s structuralism, the self will disappear.

    (j) The autonomous self. The self sees itself as a sovereign and individual consciousness, liberated by education from the traditional bonds of religion, by democracy from the strictures of class, by technology from the drudgery of poverty, and by self-knowledge from the tyranny of the unconscious—and therefore free to pursue its own destiny without God.

    (k) The totalitarian self. The self sees itself as a creature of the state, fascist or communist, and understands its need to be specified by the needs of the state.
    Walker Percy, Lost in the Cosmos

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    "Female prophecy must be situated in the crisis of reproduction in the middle of the seventeenth century. This was the peak period for the criminalization of women in England and throughout Europe, as prosecutions for infanticide, abortion, and witchcraft reached their highest rate. It was also the period in which men began to wrest control of reproduction from women (male midwives appeared in 1625 and forceps soon thereafter); previously, "childbirth and the lying-in period were a kind of ritual collectively staged and controlled by women, from which men were usually excluded." Since the ruling class had begun to recognize its interest in increased fecundity, "attention was focussed on the 'population' as fundamental category for economic and political analysis." The simultaneous births of modern obstetrics and modern demography were responses to this crisis. Both, like the witchcraft prosecutions, sought to rationalize social reproduction in a capitalist context - that is, as the breeding of labor power. A recurring motif in the ruling-class imagination was intercourse between the English witch and the "black man" - a devil or imp. The terror was not limited to an imaginary chamber of horrors; it was an actuality of counterevolution."

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    ’Tis written: “In the Beginning was the Word.”
    Here am I balked: who, now can help afford?
    The Word? — impossible so high to rate it;
    And otherwise must I translate it.
    If by the Spirit I am truly taught.
    Then thus: “In the Beginning was the Thought
    This first line let me weigh completely,
    Lest my impatient pen proceed too fleetly.
    Is it the Thought which works, creates, indeed?
    “In the Beginning was the Power,” I read.
    Yet, as I write, a warning is suggested,
    That I the sense may not have fairly tested.
    The Spirit aids me: now I see the light!
    “In the Beginning was the Act,” I write.

    -Faust
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    They opposed essentialism, and that served as their particular essentialism.
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    So the argument, by advocates of postmodernism – the argument against what they have defined as essentialism – is that the essence that has been extracted from the larger reality does not correspond to the larger reality.

    That is, the rhetoric at times does not correspond to the reality. So in a sense we can say seeking the reality is the name of the game, but it’s easy to mistake the rhetoric – the blurb, or the brand – for the reality.

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    Home Fires
    by Gene Wolfe

    We sleep, and believe we wake with the minds we carried into bed with us, bearing them as a bride borne in her groom’s arms, the lifted, the treasured, the threshold flier; so we believe.

    But we do not. That weary mind has been dispersed in sleep, its myriad parts left behind on the tracks, lying upon the infinite concrete ties between endless, gleaming steel rails.

    We wake, and compose for ourselves a new mind (if some other does not compose it for us), a mind compounded of such parts of the old one as we can discover, and of dreams, and of odd snatches of memory – something read long, long ago, possibly something sprung into thought from a tele listing, the skewed description of a better presentation, the show as it existed in Platonic space. From such trifles as these and more we construct a new mind and call it our own.

    And yet the personhood, the soul remains.

    For me, on the morning of the yellow notice, things were otherwise – or perhaps the same: I thought myself young and thought Chelle with me in bed, or (when at last I accepted her absence from our bed) in the lavatory. She had reentered my life, and so my hungry brain embraced and swallowed her, gulping down Chelle whole, Chelle here and now. And since she was here, was now, I myself must be twenty-seven. Twenty-seven and awakening in the studio apartment I shared with Chelle before she enlisted and shared with her afterward only when she got leave. All this when the present Chelle, my new Chelle, was nothing more than a single sheet of yellow paper fallen from my printer.

    Then I knew myself to be old; and for a moment, only for a moment, before I pushed back sheet and blankets, I thought I heard the light steps of Susan’s departure. She would leave me now, I thought, leave me to sleep and go down to her three rooms to wash and eat and dress and prepare for the day’s work. I had heard her, I thought: yet the door had neither opened nor closed.

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    Here is a simple exercise for experiencing the speed of the unconscious mind, derived from an InterPlay exercise done with a partner.

    Place a hand somewhere on your body.

    Change how your hand is touching your body.

    Change the position again.

    Change the position again.

    For 10 seconds, rapidly change the position of your hand touching your body. Move so fast that you do not have time to decide what position you will move your hand to.

    Come to stillness.

    Take a few moments to allow the experience to sink in and be aware of whatever you are noticing.

    By pushing our bodies to move fast, we force the conscious mind to yield to the unconscious mind. Moving faster than the conscious mind reminds us that our experience is bigger than our conscious mind and allows us to tap into that greater experience.

    Once we are aware, we can make choices based on our awareness.

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    Kajsa Ekman writes:

    “Prostitution is, in reality, very simple. It is sex between two people—between one who wants it and one who doesn’t. Since desire is absent, payment takes its place. This inequality of lust is the basis of all prostitution, be it ‘VIP escort services’ or the modern slavery of trafficking. The same condition is always present: one person wants to have sex, one doesn’t. Money may get the buyer ‘consent’ and even fake appreciation during the act, but it only highlights the fact that the other party has sex even though s/he does not really want to. No matter how much is said or done to cover this up, if there were mutual desire, there wouldn’t be any payment—and we all know it. Prostitution is therefore an enemy of sexual liberation, of lust, and of free will.”



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    The question we want to answer is, in its simplest form, this: " What was Hermes for the Greeks?" We don't make this question to escape it right away with the simple answer: " A god". To the vast majority of people, this answer would mean nothing, or it would imply that which is indeed more problematic. Our position of the question doesn't imply anything but this: to the name Hermes corresponded something effectively, a reality, and precisely a psychic reality in every way, but maybe even something that transcended physical reality.

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    In our reflections we draw from Biehl’s work with Catarina
    Moraes, a young woman abandoned by her family and left to
    die in an asylum called Vita in the southern Brazilian city of
    Porto Alegre (Biehl 2005). Largely incapacitated and said to be
    mad, Catarina spent her days in Vita assembling words in what
    she called “my dictionary.” She wrote, “The characters in this
    notebook turn and un-turn. This is my world after all.” Catarina’s
    puzzling language required intense listening, bracketing
    diagnostics, and an open reading. Since first encountering her,
    Biehl thought of her not in terms of mental illness but as an
    abandoned person who was claiming experience on her own
    terms. Catarina knew what had made her a void in the social
    sphere—“I am like this because of life”—and she organized
    this knowledge for herself and her anthropologist, thus bringing
    the public into Vita. “I give you what is missing.” Her exfamily,
    she claimed, thought of her as a failed medication regimen.
    The family was dependent on this explanation to excuse
    itself from her abandonment. In Catarina’s words, “To want
    my body as a medication, my body.” Her condition spoke of
    the pharmaceuticalization of mental health care in Brazil; in
    his ethnographic work, Biehl charts the social side effects that
    come with the unregulated encroachment of new medical technologies
    in urban-poor settings.
    Catarina’s life tells a larger story about shifting human
    values and the fate of social bonds in today’s dominant mode
    of subjectification at the service of science and capitalism. She
    suggests that these days, one can become a medico-scientific
    thing and an ex-human at the convenience of others. In the
    merciless interface of capitalist and scientific discourses, we
    are all a new kind of proletariat—hyperindividualized psychobiologies
    doomed to consume diagnostics and treatments
    (for ourselves and for others) as we seek fast success in economies
    without empathy (Martin 2007). But Catarina fought
    the disconnections that psychiatric drugs introduced in her
    life—between body and spirit, between her and the people
    she knew, in common sense—and clung to her desires. She
    worked through the many layers of (mis)treatment that now
    composed her body, knowing all too well that “my desire is
    of no value.”

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    "Just as between language and world, so between norm and its application there is no internal nexus that allows one to be derived immediately from the other."

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    Many difficulties arise from the fact that relationships and other outside values are treated with an importance which they do not
    deserve.

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    I am in a certain way a psychoanalyst – I am still a psychoanalyst from a certain point of view. From another point of view, I am not a psychoanalyst, because I refuse in my work with the family to use the psychoanalytic model. The psychoanalytic model was developed by Freud in the last century and Freud could not know the systemic way of thinking. Also, in my opinion, it is not true that the psychoanalytic model is only intrapsychic. A certain part of psychoanalysis is intrapsychic. For example, what Freud calls the parts of the psyche-the ego, superego, and id-are intrapsychic because they describe the way in which the psyche, the mind of a person, functions. But in therapy, the psychoanalytic model is not intrapsychic; rather, it is dyadic when it is correct, because it is in analysis that the relationship between the therapist and the patient, the transference, is analyzed. So Freud‘s ego, superego and id and so on are intrapsychic. Freud’s transference is dyadic.

    “[…] Dyadic thinking is not enough, because the family is at least a triad. It is necessary to remember that a system is not the sum of dyads or the sum of individuals-mother and father, son and mother, father and son, son and daughter, daughter and mother. It is necessary to observe all systems functioning at the same moment. So psychoanalysis continues in the Aristotelian way of thinking and has no way of looking at other concepts, such as coalition of two people against a third person and so on; it remains an intrapsychic or dyadic model. It is necessary to go beyond even the triad.”

    “[…] according to the model, I abandoned psychoanalysis. But I am a psychoanalyst according to the rigorous study of continuity which my psychoanalytic mentors taught me.”

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    "While Saturn might not be as thicc as its celestial neighbor Jupiter, the gas giant remains a cornucopia of unsolved mystery."

    https://www.inverse.com/article/3687...n-ring-kittens

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    "While Saturn might not be as thicc as its celestial neighbor Jupiter, the gas giant remains a cornucopia of unsolved mystery."

    https://www.inverse.com/article/3687...n-ring-kittens

    https://media.giphy.com/media/hSu5S5yUoonbW/giphy-downsized-large.gif


    u dont know how weird Saturn is until u dont discover there's a hexagonal windstorm on top of it....



    super Edit, I got confused about the Plato and all the elements things. that was really insightful to go throuth anyway

    Hexagons are even one of the most mysterious shapes in its symbology. It appears to be formed by 2 intertwined equilateral triangles. As in the David's star. The symbol resembles as well the shatkona hexagram of Hindi philosophy, the union of the opposing forces, shakti and shiva, male and female, as ancient as the Vedas.
    So the hexagon is well eradicated in the ancient cosmologies of the world... and on Saturn...

    Edit edit; just came to notice how the IChing is made by hexagrams... aha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoline View Post

    https://media.giphy.com/media/hSu5S5yUoonbW/giphy-downsized-large.gif


    u dont know how weird Saturn is until u dont discover there's a hexagonal windstorm on top of it....
    Interesting...

    the hexagon is the only solid that Euclid didn't hypothesize

    super Edit, I got confused with Plato, he invented the solids 100 years prior to Euclid. Euclid anyway was the guy who explained them in mathematical terms.
    Uhh, a hexagon isn't a solid, it's a polygon. Maybe you are thinking of the heptagon, which is the first non-constructible polygon.

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    @pinoline ok I think I know what you mean. There is no Platonic solid with the hexagon or anything higher as its faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    There is no Platonic solid with the hexagon or anything higher as its faces.
    aw u got me yes!

    sorry if I stumbled in your quote but it inspired me so much : )))

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    This book is not up my normal alley at all but I bought it bcuz the first couple pages hooked me

     




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    (was reading some Schelling quotes due to the other thread where he was mentioned as influencing Jung)

    "Has creation a final goal? And if so, why was it not reached at once? Why was the consummation not realized from the beginning? To these questions there is but one answer: Because God is Life, and not merely Being." - Schelling (Philosophical Inquiries into the Nature of Human Freedom, 1809)

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    "It follows that the meditation of death is in itself vain, as Spinoza also declares: “The free man thinks of nothing less than of his death, and his wisdom is a meditation on life, and not a meditation on death.” It is because death is only a consequence. What thought must turn towards is the event which locally transforms the identity function.

    All of this indicates why we cannot agree with a philosophy of mortality and finitude. There is no ontological status of death. Of no existent we can say that it is a “being-for-death”. Because existence is a transcendental degree and nothing else, we must ask with Saint Paul: “Death, where is thy victory?” Dying, exactly like existing, is a mode of being-there, and therefore a purely logical correlation. The philosophy of death is included in one sentence: Do not be afraid by the logic of a world, or by the games of existence. We are living and dying in many different worlds."

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    The telephone continues to be an important part of everyone’s lives,
    though for young professionals in particular cell phones have become omnipresent.
    Whether in a bar or restaurant, waiting for an elevator or walking
    down the street, young professionals rely on their cell phones to make dates,
    keep in touch, or simply impress others. The use of cell phones is a part of their
    generation’s lifestyle that is generally frowned on by people over about age
    thirty-five or forty. To these older people, who did not grow up with cell
    phones, public use of them is often seen as “appropriating others’ space and
    forcing them to eavesdrop.” To younger people, by contrast, the cell phone is
    a symbol of social importance and is something to be flaunted, leading some
    users to engage in “stage-phoning”: using public space to make unimportant
    calls solely to impress others.

    The status aspects of cell phones appear to be especially important for men,
    according to two researchers in Liverpool, England. They spent several months
    observing young professionals in one of Liverpool’s upscale singles bars and
    found that male patrons conspicuously displayed or used their cell phones
    about two and a half times more often than female patrons. The men in the bar
    fiddled with their phones, turned them over and stared at them, checked the
    battery, and so on. The investigators concluded that it was a “courtship display”
    intended not only to reflect the male’s status, but his social importance as
    someone who had to be reachable at all times. Thus, for these young professional
    men who were trying to attract females’ attention, the researchers concluded
    that exhibiting a cell phone was akin to other male animals’ preening or
    strutting to distinguish themselves from the rest of the pack.
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    " I've always told people that for each person there is a sentence - a series of words - which has the power to destroy him. When Fat told me about Leon Stone I realized (this came years after the first realization) that another sentence exists, another series of words, which will heal the person. If you're lucky you will get the second; but you can be certain of getting the first: that is the way it works. On their own, without training, individuals know how to deal out the lethal sentence, but training is required to deal out the second. Stephanie had come close when she made the little ceramic pot Oh Ho and presented it to Fat as her gift of love, a love she lacked the verbal skills to articulate."
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    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    There are many good things about Switzerland. The flag is a big plus. Also – possibly in reaction to the excess of meetings at CERN, the United Nations or the World Trade Organization – a Swiss political party formed in 2011 with a policy to ban PowerPoint. Contingency plans, including holding all meetings over the French border in the Prévessin site of CERN or (clearly very popular) enforcing a strict LaTeX-only policy, were discussed extensively.
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    He also had a cat, or perhaps it was more true to say that the cat had adopted him. On a chilly April night the grey and black tabby had come in through his open french window. Jumped up on his bed and gone to sleep without comment. The young man allowed it. After all, who was he to tell a cat where it could or could not sleep. After a week of sharing his room, his bed and his meals with the cat it was clear it had no intention of leaving. It was also clear that it had once been a well cared for house cat, but had now fallen on very hard times. It was scruffy, underfed and badly scarred from claw and tooth. No collar or tag. Only after the man received a couple of flea bites did he scoop him up and take him to an animal hospital. The cat was given a thorough examination, received all the proper shots, had a chip inserted under it's skin, was washed and groomed. When the woman at the desk asked what the cat's name was the young man considered for a moment and finally said; Job. And Job he was. Job and the young man kept company with one another. The cat liked being petted so the man petted him. The cat liked grilled fish instead of cat food and so the man requested that from the kitchen. The cat didn't like to use the cat box inside of the apartment so the man put one on his desk. It was the cat's life after all, and the man had no desire to impose his will on it. Every once in a while, in the darkest hours of the night, the cat would allow the young man to wrap his arms around the small furry body. If it minded the salty tears that fell on it's head it did not complain. That was how it was for the cat named Job and man who had been born as Alexander Chismer.

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    “There is something infantile in the presumption that somebody else has a responsibility to give your life meaning and point… The truly adult view, by contrast, is that our life is as meaningful, as full and as wonderful as we choose to make it.”

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