Se of SLE-ESTp women seeming like ethics

[ClaudiaM]

In the Roseanne Barr thread, Blaze noted that "sometimes the Se leading tunes in so well to people's motivations and intentions, that it looks like ethics. when the person in question is female, further complicates it." Has anyone else noticed this? Can you describe further how this manifests in SLE women?

[Absurd]

Can you describe further how this manifests in SLE women?

Sure.

[ClaudiaM]

Sure.

Will you then?

Smartass

[Creepy-Snaps]

In the Roseanne Barr thread, Blaze noted that "sometimes the Se leading tunes in so well to people's motivations and intentions, that it looks like ethics. when the person in question is female, further complicates it." Has anyone else noticed this? Can you describe further how this manifests in SLE women?

I don't think so, I think Se and Fe can look incredibly different! Practically opposite. Se is scanning, evaluative, cautious. Fe is spontaneous, bubbly, sporatic!

[Codie]

Using a lot (sle's are extraverts).. to deal with polr weakness? beta ST females are difficult to pin down.

[consentingadult]

beta ST females are difficult to pin down.

Not at all! I'm frequently mistaken for an IEI by beta ST females, especially SLE females.

More seriously, to answer the OP's question: I never mistake the Se in SLE women for Fe, but that could also be because of my own type (supposedly IEE). First of all, Se simply feels different (more transgressing), but also SLE women, when they want to attract attention, will more likely use mobilizing Fe, which is of a different nature than leading or creative Fe: you can actually tell they aren't good at it.

I can imagine a logical type being more easily fooled by an SLE woman using mobilizing Fe.

[mu4]

Imo it's more interpretations of topics/overlapping topics and from the mobilizing functions.

[Gilly]

...or SLEs just use Fe recognizably. This is more my experience. I think Se can assist Fe in a sense, they are both involved object functions and are both valued by SLE, which as an extroverted type is obviously going to make consistent use of both.

Re: the female bit, women are always more -stereotypically- ethical, which IME accounts for most of the noticeable differences, outside of subtype.

[717495]

It's not Se aside from the awareness, it's being a female and using Fe. Even ISTj females are like this. I tend to find Te ego females to not really cast these impressions because their sense of ethics is internalized and emotionality subjectivized and starkly personalized.

[Gilly]

YEAH FE WOMENZ IS WHOREZ AND FI WOMENZ IS REAL AND EMOTIONAL AND PERSONAL AND UNIQUE AND STUFFS

bitch

[Gilly]

PS you are either a 6 or a 9

I know attachment when I see it

[Absurd]

Don't hurt him Gilly, he's just a little boy.

[717495]

YEAH FE WOMENZ IS WHOREZ AND FI WOMENZ IS REAL AND EMOTIONAL AND PERSONAL AND UNIQUE AND STUFFS

bitch

PS you are either a 6 or a 9

I know attachment when I see it

Wrong on both accounts.

[Gilly]

my name iz poli n im infj n shit

look at my fi

o sweet pathos

[Blaze]

rings true:

poli

It's not Se aside from the awareness, it's being a female and using Fe. Even ISTj females are like this. I tend to find Te ego females to not really cast these impressions because their sense of ethics is internalized and emotionality subjectivized and starkly personalized.

Gilly

...or SLEs just use Fe recognizably. This is more my experience. I think Se can assist Fe in a sense, they are both involved object functions and are both valued by SLE, which as an extroverted type is obviously going to make consistent use of both.

Re: the female bit, women are always more -stereotypically- ethical, which IME accounts for most of the noticeable differences, outside of subtype.

the Se kind of gives off a tuned in feeling as well. unless i'm reading the embedded Si, that is. if Si is their ignoring i don't see how it could be that.

[The Ineffable]

Smartass

Tautology. All Te types are compulsive smart-asses.

[Gilly]

Tautology. All Te types are compulsive smart-asses.

FACT