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What, IYO, is the meaning of life?
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The meaning of life is to stop asking what is the meaning of life?
To give me all your monies.
Hahaha Abbie you really had me going there ;P
The meaning of life can be found within life itself.
Why must there be meaning? What is meaning? Revelation? What is the Revelation of life?
I do not know the answer to that question, but if it is a valid one, then the answer will be revealed in time, if it is willed. Death will assuage many curiosities at least, do not fear it, nor hasten it - respect it and set it aside for later.
Meaning is the dispersion of the fog of obscurity that which covers the existence of situations and objects. The obscurities of life are its purpose and origin, and so we seek out our Creators and roles in life.
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The meaning of life is this:
To find enjoyment in what you do, satisfaction in your work, to eat the fruit of your labours.
To give love and receive it, but not expect it, to never forget your soul's true longing, to find your special someone to make both of yours come true.
To live forever and ever and ever; that is the nature of the present, it is a gift that never ends.
She is wiseWhy I love LSEs:
beyond words
beautiful within
her soul
brighter than
the sun
lovelier than
love
dreams larger
than life
and does not
understand the
meaning of no.
Because everything
through her, and in her, is
"Yes, it will be done."
Originally Posted by Abbie
A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!
Life is what you make of it.
There is no universal meaning.
I don't know what mine is yet.
The meaning of life is to exist long enough to reproduce and continue life for another generation.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
To live a life of no regret.
This entails different things to different people.
Of course there's no such thing as objective/universal meaning, that's why she said 'in your opinion.' =p
It's all subjective, all relative ie.
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I think for me, the meaning of life is to be both sexually attractive, and respectable. Uglies hurt my eyes, and assholes... they hurt my heart. Why not combine the two, and why not strive to the most ideal thing for yourself and others? Sure you don't always meet your goals or whatever, but aspiring and hoping and reaching for the stars is what makes humans, human.
In purity, the meaning of life is a mixture of romance and real work. To see that the world is never what it could be, and use real action to work on making it what it should be. When everybody complains how sucky and wrong things are, that's the way they stay, until a few people inspire the rest to greatness. There's really no permanently fixing things. The world slips back (like the greek guy with the rock) but ....what matters is that you try and push it back up when the demons and assholes have sunk it back down.
I find meaning in the sea of absurdity. These are small packets of meaning that apply to parcelled units of absurdity. They shift and change and sometimes contradict. The absurdity has no meaning in itself.
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The meaning of life is wherever your perception takes you. It is what you see and how you see it, and how you interpret it. Everything is connected, life takes you exactly where it wants you to go.
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didnt niffweed answer this question
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
The white will come? 42? I don't remember paying attention at that point.
That sounds about right too. You can keep asking the question some more using different words, and finding new answers.
to crush your enemies, to see them driven before you and to hear the lamentation of the women.
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trust yourself is the only thing.
amen
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
To suffer until you die? I don't know.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Both.I like to think that Ashton means that the meaning of life is to get to the point where you don't need to ask that question, but chances are he's just being a bitter douche
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
To me its subjective, things appear which are meaningful to you, things that were meaningful no longer are, and things that used to be not meaningful become meaningful. The question "What is the meaning of life" attempts to give an objective answer to that process, why does this become meaningful, why does this loose meaning, and so forth. There is no objective answer to that, its as mysterious in my opinion as why there is anything at all, why stars formed the elements, and elements formed chemicals, and chemical formed lifeforms which have evolved. The way things take meaning and loose them is just an organic process of life, you go through periods of nihilism and periods of meaning with all sorts of things. The greater question is why do people need to know "What the meaning of life" is, in my opinion. I think it comes up when people loose spirit about something, when something that was meaningful ceases to become so, and emptiness is in its place. Then people ask "What is the meaning of life" in order to fill that space. The problem with that though is that people spend forever looking for some grand answer to that question and pass up their entire lives in the process, so it prevents them from actually finding that meaning in front of them. It's like the story about spanish conquistadors looking for the fountain of eternal youth and in the process passing up their lives, growing old, and dying.
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The meaning of life is what you give it - in my opinion, there is not one meaning to life, but I find meaning in events which arouse strong emotions, and in those emotions themsleves.
You assume there has to be meaning.
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Asking questions such as "why there has to be any meaning?" shows a lack of comprehension on the metaphysical properties of what makes people who they are. Without meaning, nothing exists, as without the mind giving meaning to objects in the space and time, there is nothing but a void. Everything in life is meaning, there are different kinds of meaning, some want to escape from the subtext of meaning by trying to act more than take in. Others take in more than act. You can't escape the gaze of meaning though, your entire perception filter is built upon it. Life is relativity in motion, with all things associating with each other to create relative context.
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Nope. If I can feel a wall, it's because electrons in the wall are causing proteins in my skin to deform, making them send an electrical signal into my brain. It's a real object with real properties that has a real effect on the physical structures that partly make up who I am. I could take a glass bottle and smash it against the wall. The glass bottle certainly isn't sentient, the wall certainly isn't sentient, and yet these two things have interacted.
A man could fall, dead, in a marsh. We could fish him out later. The man is dead and no longer sentient. The marsh chemicals are certainly not sentient, and yet we can see physical evidence of them having interacted over time unbeknownst to anyone. Your claim is either completely absurd, or a superfluous tautology ("if we don't invest meaning in stuff, stuff doesn't mean anything!!!!!!!!!!")
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Who says life is supposed to have intrinsic meaning?
That thought wasn't really carried out far enough.
You say you can feel a wall, but why can you feel the wall? Why does your body work the way it does? Centuries upon centuries of evolution, with people altering their connection with the environment over time. There is no great divide between the mind and the body, your thoughts and the particles in your body have a synchronous connection with each other. Why does your brain interpret the wall? Why does your brain interpret the body? There are all these little things that you neglect in your overly "real" philosophy which tbh isn't really that real. Without a point of reference, what is anything? Everything that we identify in life, we identify through the prism of perspective. What is an electron ,a proton ,or a neutron without human thought?
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Actually that fallacy only makes sense with specific causations attributed to the clusters, not on whether or not there is any meaning at all in the relationship between the groupings.... anytime there is a cluster there is always going to be some sort of connection between the grouping, no matter how deep and abstract one has to go to find it
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You're working at it backwards though. Human beings are just a result of a self-organizing system, just like all forms of life. We cropped up at random in a universe with concrete properties, and began observing it and making names for what we saw, and for our abstract concepts.
Why does my brain interpret X or Y? Because a fluke coincidence somewhere began perpetuating itself, in this case sense organs and sensory processing in the brain. That's how evolution (and any self-organizing system) works. Your point is undermined anyway, sense many non-sentient creatures (like primitive floating colonies in the ocean) have sense organs. They don't have a reason "why" they sense things--they're not even aware like on a human level, lacking even having a network of nerve cells.
Without a point of reference, things are things. Without a language to generate labels to describe things, they still have physical properties, such as reflecting waves of electromagnetism that cause proteins to deform, or exerting a resistive force against things that press them.
You could translate this entire thread into French, Swahili, Lojban, or utter gibberish and the concepts would continue unharmed. Information doesn't just spontaneously spring into existence inside human minds, though it can be generated there as a side effect of thought.
If we're not going to agree we're not going to agree, but you have my reasons for believing that "meaning" being an intrinsic aspect of the universe is absurd.
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Without a point of reference, things are not things. Life is through your eyes, if your head were chopped off, you act as if you can look down at yourself from the sky and be like.... "I'm dead but everything else is going to continue, even though I no longer exist". Time, touch, smell, taste, are all dependent on perception. Without a point of reference, I suppose you would be a thing....though oddly you couldn't comprehend our own "thingness" in that case.
There are two sides of the coin. One can say that life is perception, in which cause they'd believe that everyone outside of the range of perception is an illusion. The other can say that the self is physical, like what you are proposing now, in which case you deny your own viewpoint as a piece of reality. The truth is that there is no sides to the coin. Everything in life is synchronous. The world is in you, and you are in the world. They are reflections of each other. You can continue the self denial, and continue breaking down everything. The particles into smaller particles, the smaller particles into even smaller particles. It's an admirable life. You won't ever explain your being until you incorporate the I into it. Only then can you realize how things form out of nothing.
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