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    Default WTF, this fits me perfectly!

    as a creative (2nd) function (LSI and ESI)

    The individual takes direct action to accomplish his goals and desires in the face of external obstacles, and also the interests of his close friends, family, or associates. This may involve prodding others to take necessary action, deliberately applying pressure in specific situations, or abruptly taking on an organizational role. The individual does not generally seek out confrontation, but he is also not afraid of it.

    He takes his responsibilities seriously and tends to perform them diligently and with care. He expects the same of others.


    I am giving up on Socionics.

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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Is that from Wikisocion? It's kind of vague and i think a lot of people could relate to it.
    It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
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    Does this mean you are an LSI spy infiltrating the delta quadra und hunting down IEEs?
    „Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
    – Arthur Schopenhauer

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoomer View Post
    Does this mean you are an LSI spy infiltrating the delta quadra und hunting down IEEs?
    Death to him.

    More deltas ought to read wikisocion...

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    It's Expat's idealization of ESIs. I feel bad when I say this, though. But it's true.
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    Expat and Ashton got married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    Is that from Wikisocion? It's kind of vague and i think a lot of people could relate to it.
    Yes. And you're probably right.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoomer View Post
    Does this mean you are an LSI spy infiltrating the delta quadra und hunting down IEEs?
    You never know...
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    It's Expat's idealization of ESIs. I feel bad when I say this, though. But it's true.
    So those are Expat's descriptions? Maybe he'll want me for his dual.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    It's Expat's idealization of ESIs. I feel bad when I say this, though. But it's true.
    Is there a reason you feel bad and if ESI(LSI) wikisocion decription is idealised, then all of them descriptions are. I mean, if A then B and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Is there a reason you feel bad and if ESI(LSI) wikisocion decription is idealised, then all of them descriptions are. I mean, if A then B and vice versa.
    I feel bad because they are a specific person's idealization, not some kind of average idealization of how a person might be perceived by a large array of psychologically different humans. Don't be silly Absurd, you know what I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I feel bad because they are a specific person's idealization, not some kind of average idealization of how a person might be perceived by a large array of psychologically different humans. Don't be silly Absurd, you know what I mean.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Not that I am defending any of this, just got somewhat curious FDG.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I feel bad because they are a specific person's idealization, not some kind of average idealization of how a person might be perceived by a large array of psychologically different humans.
    I see. Hope it will pass

    Ye, I agree, not all ESIs are the same.

    Don't be silly Absurd, you know what I mean.
    Hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Hope it will pass
    Haha wtf??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    Expat and Ashton got married.
    No Expat and Winterpark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    No Expat and Winterpark.
    no absurd and maritsa. they're duals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    Haha wtf??
    The irony, eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    no absurd and maritsa. they're duals
    I refuse to refuse to think about socionics, forgive my gentle soul mercatron.

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    Lets see expat was an ENTj so would have looked at ESI's as his dual, and therefore may have been prone to idealize the them in his descriptions. "Dual Bias"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    Lets see expat was an ENTj so would have looked at ESI's as his dual, and therefore may have been prone to idealize the them in his descriptions. "Dual Bias"
    That's not what FDG and Ashton think (and Reuben).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    Lets see expat was an ENTj so would have looked at ESI's as his dual, and therefore may have been prone to idealize the them in his descriptions. "Dual Bias"
    Careful there. Its poltically incorrect around these parts to say he was ENTj. Alot of people beleive ESTj.

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    It's just a poor way to describe how sense perception works in LSI and ESI and makes a general statement that can apply to anyone who wants to take an action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by he died with a felafel View Post
    it does sound unspecific as descriptions go, but isfj very much do that when necessary ime - don't see how it is 'idealization'...can't say the same for istj tho.

    anyway, agree w/slacker that the way it's put is applicable to just about anyone under certain circumstances.
    Haven't known any ISFj who do that, to be honest. Perhaps there are cultural factors at play. It sounds way too proactive than how most ISFjs tend to be - unless we're talking about an extreme emergency situation. Perhaps again, since I obviously observe ISFjs only when they're around me, my own presence might mean that emergency/negative situations are slightly less likely to happen.

    Careful there. Its poltically incorrect around these parts to say he was ENTj. Alot of people beleive ESTj.
    I don't think so, I personally believe his self typing to be correct - ENTj-Te, with strong emphasis on Te. Besides, when I speak about "idealization" I'm not talking about "positive" idealization - indeed the description outlined in the OP is value-neutral. What I'm speaking about is describing a type according to the idea someone has in mind, rather than how such type actually...acts.

    Let's be honest, I personally wouldn't necessarily trust myself as "objective" if I were to write an entire wiki about types. Obviously my descriptions will be partially clouded by my personal experience, personal bias and well, just general lack of understanding of reality.

    Anyway wikisocion has a great ESI description, here:

    http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...ale_and_female

    That's not what FDG and Ashton think (and Reuben).
    lol & fuck you @ the bolded, ahah
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    Parkster did you really get THAT excited over a few generic lines ?

    btw,i think that the wikisocion female ESI description sounds psychotic.

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    Excited? No. Just surprised to read my monthly horoscope at wikisocion.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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