Do me

[Roro]

Do me. Better yet, type me. Where do I start? I guess I can start off with . . . ask me questions, and I'll answer the best I can?

*shrug* Some of you may already know me from the MBTI forums anyways, but you'll have to figure out who I am on your own!

[Roro]

pics or gtfo

I'm too sexy for pics.

Or you could just check the profile. I'm prettyyy sure I have one posted there.

[Roro]

It's really tiny.

That's what she said.


Ok, fine.

http://tinypic.com/r/20h331j/7
http://i56.tinypic.com/27x3zwn
http://tinypic.com/r/2i89lwg/7


Gosh. So much effort, and now my identity is out.

[Roro]

Umm, VI guesstimate I'd say ISFp atm. But don't hold me to that.

Ok, I won't.

VI doesn't really interest me too much though. It's cool to think about, but . . . how do you know I didn't get plastic surgery done or something? I know there has to be better ways at determining a persons type than "VI guesstimates."

[Reuben]

If I'm ILE, you're supposed to be my dual. Come here, dear Cardinal, and let me do you.

[717495]

I got the same impression of ISFp when I saw your pics too. I usually get the same or similar impressions as Ashton does. And also usually VI fits with people's self-typings on here too lol, so it's pretty safe. Not that it should be the prime factor but its one of them; it helps keep a valid coherence visually/how mental processes look in essence on the outside. Has little to do with just who someone looks like.

[rat1]

There are too many overly horny alpha NTs on this forum. Go do your job and sedate them somehow.

[Reuben]

There are too many overly horny alpha NTs on this forum. Go do your job and sedate them somehow.

<--------- There is one here, please satisfy all my needs and desires.

[Atlast]

Well, since you're ISFp in MBTI I'd imagine your some of the same things in socionics, being SF and whatnot. But I'm sure you know the varying arguments for the congruity or incongruity of MBTI-Socionics (hope this doesn't become a battleground for them, lol), and I could see easily see people typing you here based on a different impression -> different club (like NF or something). Or maybe you'd like to be an NT this time around ? The chatbox seems to be best for talking about type, from what I've seen of it.

On that note, what type do you want to be ?

[mu4]

I think you're a I at least. Given that you type ISFP in MBTI, just looking at information elements you could be a ESI, however this is not always the case. I'm not sure if I'm receiving any extraverted feeling from you but you seem to be ethical.

Could you tell us a story about yourself, something interesting that happened?

[Reuben]

She just wants to be my dual, don't bother asking. I know everything about her.

[Beautiful sky]

ISFp for sure.

[golden]

You seem like an Alpha.

[Phthalate]

There are two approaches you can take. One is to answer some sort of questionnaire (Aleksei did a decent one over at PerN: http://www.personalitynation.com/obs...nics-type.html), or the other one is to read up on some general descriptions that might fit you.

Here are some wikisocion articles for which I've found a lot of people relate to:

Romance Styles: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Romance_styles
Temperament: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Temperament
Quadras: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Quadra

There is also the clubs, but I honestly don't like that group breakdown :\. I relate to mine (researcher), but I think it's just me being nitpicky in that instance.

For example... if you really are SEI/ISFp, then you should relate to:

Caregiver Romance Style: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...aregiver_group
IP Temperament: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=IP_temperament
Alpha Quadra: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Alpha_Quadra



In my honest personal opinion? Yeah, you're very likely to be an Alpha. I honestly think you're an ESE.

[Mediator Kam]

Hey Cardinal, you are very pretty! Not trying to hit on you, I will leave that to the rabid ILE populace here.

Hi. You are SEI like me.

[Roro]

Thanks you guys, appreciate the input. I somewhat value Jorge's opinion, but only because he knows me. However, I don't believe anybody truly knows me as a whole. Anyways, I'm going attempt the questionnaire that Jorge sent. (Note: I skipped some just because I didn't feel like answering them, or didn't know how to answer them at the moment.)

And ss far as telling a story goes... I can't just pull a random story out of my ass, lol. I need a little guidance, something to go off of.

1) Pick 5 words or short phrases (or as many as you want, but no less than 5) to describe yourself, and explain.
I don't do that well describing myself, so I'll list words/phrases that I have heard others use to describe me and that I think sound at least a little bit like me.
- Inquisitive. This is especially true when it comes to things other people are telling me. I don't always take what is said literally, and often I believe that there is something more behind what's being said, so I ask questions. Sometimes a lot of questions. Sometimes I even get written up at work because I question my boss(es) so much. *shrug*
- Aloof. In my defense, I believe I am only "aloof" when I have things on my mind, or when I just generally do not like who I am with and don't have any way out. For instance, when I went out last night with a couple of friends, and we went into the [first] gay bar. I generally did not like most people that my friends were talking to. They were highly annoying, and after hearing them talk about sex and alcohol for a good 15-20 minutes straight, I was not so entertained...so I walked off and sat at a table by myself, in which I was then referred to as being "stuck up" and I replied back with, "no, I'm just bored and don't like most of you."
- Friendly. Sometimes apparently too friendly, in the sense that I come off as "flirty." It beats me how being nice is a 'flirty gesture.' I try to be as friendly as possible to everybody though, but somebody just don't deserve it after one too many chances.
- Distrustful/skeptical. Do I really have to explain? It's always been hard for me to trust others, their words, advice, etc. If one person tells me something, I typically weigh it against evidence that I have already accumulated myself, and/or go and ask many others for their input as well.
- Creative. Partially why my manager wants to keep me around, despite my being so anti-authority, is because I'm the one person in the department who can 'visualize' how something should/could be done.


2) Now pick the direct opposite of those and explain how you could be the opposite, and what could be good about it.


3) What are your interests? Why?
I have varying interests. As long as I believe there is something to gain/learn, I will probably take at least some interest in it.

4) What do you want out of life?
Acknowledgement of my successes, as well as my attempts at doing things. To continue learning. Mental and emotional fulfillment. To find things and people that interest/stimulate me on a regular basis.

5) What can you not do, because it might jeopardize your survival?

6) What do you like in other people? Why?

7) What do you dislike in other people? Why?

8) What would your ideal partner be like?
Romantic, not too touchy-feely (especially all of that PDA crap. gag), understanding of my needing/wanting alone time, curious/speculative/intelligent and have the ability to converse with me over real and interesting topics. Not too much to ask for, is it?

9) Do you enjoy comfort, sensory indulgence, relaxation? Are you physically hedonistic (parties, dancing, binges, good eating, etc.)? Do you focus finely on physical sensations, carefully savoring them? Who doesn't like good food? But in all honesty, I don't focus on this stuff too largely. I do like to go out to the bar with friends about 3x/month, but... *shrug* partying doesn't really do it for me. I don't do dancing, I'd be content with eating a simple sandwich, pizza, or saltine crackers on a daily basis. On a scale of 1-10, 10 being highly focused on physical sensations, I would probably put myself around a 4-5.

10) Do you find yourself neglecting bodily concerns and pushing your body beyond reasonable limits (like skipping sleep or meals or the like)? If so, do you appreciate being encouraged to slow down and take care of yourself, or does it make you feel annoyed or mollycoddled? I skip breakfast and lunch nearly daily, and my sleep cycle is really screwed up. I can't say that it really bothers me though... its worked for me all this time, so why should it really matter that I change it up? I would rather people not try to 'encourage' me to take care of myself, because I'm perfectly capable of understanding what I want/need for myself and doing it myself.

11) Do you focus more on what you need to take care of at the moment, or on the end goal? Do you prefer an attitude of leaving no stone left unturned, or do you only focus on what you feel is necessary to reach your end goals? Are you thorough or sloppy? If neither applies to you, which do you prefer in other people? Hmm... once I have a specific goal set in mind, I pretty much do what's necessary to accomplish that specific goal. I can easily throw everything else to the side, and focus on what I need/have to do in order to reach my goal. If it's something that I'm actually very interested in, I will do a good job and try to be as thorough as possible. If I have no interest in it, then *shrug* I just do what I need to do to get by.

12) Are you forever chasing after new ideas and possibilities, or do you prefer dreaming up imaginative scenarios and fully fleshed-out plans? If neither applies to you, which do you prefer in other people? I'm always thinking of new ideas and possibilities, but I can't say that I always act on them.

13) Do you look for the hidden implications of concepts in analysis, and what they lead to? Or do you prefer to examine how concepts relate to each other? If neither applies to you, which do you prefer in other people? Definitely how concepts relate to each other.

14) Do you solve all variables, difficulties and contingencies as they come up? Or do you prefer to pick the most likely outcome or most likely conclusion and plan with it in mind? I'm a bit of both, somewhere in the middle. Though, I probably lean slightly more towards picking the most likely outcome and planning with it in mind... things just don't always go as planned though, so I try to have a few back-up plans just in case, or else just deal with the stuff when I have to.

15) Are you prone to uncertainty or indecisiveness? When you have multiple opportunities to choose from, do you analyze them all? Or do you want to cut out the ones that aren’t likely or are least likely; pick just one? I'm a very indecisive person. I probably lean more towards first cutting the least likely, and then analyzing the ones that are left.

16) Are you open to any avenue that might offer potential opportunities? Or do you prefer to make sure the odds are in favor of a new avenue bringing benefits? Something that is sure to offer benefits, definitely.

17) Are you assertive? Aggressive? Do you like it when other people are? Assertive, yes. Aggressive, no, not unless I'm under extreme stress. I like assertiveness to an extent in others, though I prefer those who are less assertive than I am.

18) Are you able to relax? Or are you restless and fidgety? A little bit of both. It really depends on the environment.

19) Do you prefer concepts, principles, rules, procedures, etc. to be precise and lack ambiguity, or do you prefer simple solutions that offer (or as long as they offer) greater efficiency and productivity? Probably the latter. I like something a little more open-ended, but still gets the job done efficiently.

20) Are you a practical person in general? Elaborate. I definitely feel that I use a lot of common sense, and I always make sure I'm getting the best deal. I can't say lavishing out doesn't appeal to me, but in the end I always do what makes the most sense - especially when it comes to financial matters. I have never been able to understand people who go out and spend $100 on a shirt or a pair of shoes just because of a name on it, when something very similar is right around the corner for a good $20.

21) Are you passionate? Emotional? Given to performance or histrionics? Do you enjoy those qualities in other people?
I'm passionate about things that I really believe it, and I'm more emotional when under extreme conditions/stress than anything. I do like people who are passionate in the things they believe in as well, but I typically don't like being around very emotional people.

22) Are you aware of when you're stepping on other peoples' toes, or offend them? When you're not liked? Very aware. I don't always care, but I'm aware.

23) Are you sensitive to others being emotionally hurt or offended? Eh, I try to be as tactful as possible because I don't like being the reason people cry (though I have made people cry a few times even when using tact) but I'm not going to just sit by and say nothing if I feel it needs to be said.

24) Would you say that the status of your personal relationships with people, your distance to them, is an important criterion for guiding your behavior? Not really. I'm pretty capable of doing 'me.' People can either take it or leave it.

[InkStrider]

Are you aware of your enneagram type and stacking?

[Roro]

Are you aware of your enneagram type and stacking?

I'm a 6, sx/sp I believe. I think I have balanced wings, but if I had to say one wing was a bit stronger than the other, it'd be 6w7.

[Phthalate]

- Distrustful/skeptical. Do I really have to explain? It's always been hard for me to trust others, their words, advice, etc. If one person tells me something, I typically weigh it against evidence that I have already accumulated myself, and/or go and ask many others for their input as well.

This seems highly Ti-valuing.

- Friendly. Sometimes apparently too friendly, in the sense that I come off as "flirty." It beats me how being nice is a 'flirty gesture.' I try to be as friendly as possible to everybody though, but somebody just don't deserve it after one too many chances.

And this seems very Fe-valuing.

- Creative. Partially why my manager wants to keep me around, despite my being so anti-authority, is because I'm the one person in the department who can 'visualize' how something should/could be done.

3) What are your interests? Why?
I have varying interests. As long as I believe there is something to gain/learn, I will probably take at least some interest in it.

And this seems to be somewhat Ne-valuing, with a touch of Se-Super Ego

8) What would your ideal partner be like?
Romantic, not too touchy-feely (especially all of that PDA crap. gag), understanding of my needing/wanting alone time, curious/speculative/intelligent and have the ability to converse with me over real and interesting topics. Not too much to ask for, is it?

Hmm... it still seems like you want a person who is somewhat Ne and Fe valuing. From the looks of it, it seems like you either want a ILE or a ESE.

On a scale of 1-10, 10 being highly focused on physical sensations, I would probably put myself around a 4-5.

Really? Strange as how you used to type yourself as an ESFP/ESTP, who is highly aware of physical sensations. This seems Si-devaluing :<, or at least, not Si-dominant.

I skip breakfast and lunch nearly daily, and my sleep cycle is really screwed up. I can't say that it really bothers me though... its worked for me all this time, so why should it really matter that I change it up? I would rather people not try to 'encourage' me to take care of myself, because I'm perfectly capable of understanding what I want/need for myself and doing it myself.

Yeah and this again doesn't seem very Si-dominant either. Si-doms tend to be very aware of physical sensations, and that's why they always seem like the Martha Stewart's of Socionics.

All in all, I can't see you as a SEIwith what you've told me. I'm still leaning towards ESE for you, since you seem to want a partner who is very... INTj-ish haha. I could see you as an ILE perhaps too...

http://www.socioniko.net/en/1.3.rels/dual-1j.html
http://www.socioniko.net/en/1.3.rels/dual-1p.html

You might want to read up on these and tell me if you relate to any of the 4 characters described.

Additionally, one way that I prefer typing people is by looking at the vulnerabilities, weaknesses, etc.... Which one do you relate to MORE (it's normal if you relate to both... they aren't completely exclusive)?

The individual prefers to focus on immediate tasks, taking things as they come, rather than try to evaluate the outcome of present trends. Inclination to tell stories or narrate events on a sequential basis, rather than outlining how one event led to another.
He perceives time in an undifferentiated manner: the past, present, and future are all perceived as being in or near the present. When talking about the future, especially one's longer-term plan), the individual treats it as if it were accessible today and often is not aware of all the developments that must happen first.
He generally has a poor sense of how long things will take and what the best amount of time to spend on things is. Therefore it is difficult for him to stay on schedule without extensive, even total, pre-planning.

or

That is manifested as a skepticism and dislike for basing your beliefs, arguments, and actions on external sources of information. For instance, a SEI will rather trust the expertise of someone who seems to have hands-on experience, even if limited, than of someone who demonstrates to have read many books on the same subject. IEIs will base their opinions and views on their own personal insights and be, again, skeptical of "second-hand" factual information that contradicts it. "Don't trust everything you read" is a typical sneer of this function, especially when applied to sources of information otherwise seen as neutral and reliable, such as encyclopedias and handbooks. Another manifestation is a dislike for dealing with issues involving efficiency, productivity, and factual accuracy of statements made; statements are made according to input from other functions, not from double-checks against external facts which are seen as of lesser relevance to the issue at hand. Types with this function lack confidence in their ability to find relevant information in outside sources.

[InkStrider]

I'm a 6, sx/sp I believe. I think I have balanced wings, but if I had to say one wing was a bit stronger than the other, it'd be 6w7.

What of the 6 do you identify with?

[Park]

ENTp? You kinda remind me of Vero.

[Roro]

Jorge, I relate to bits and pieces of both. But I'm going to say I probably lean a bit more towards the Te PoLR example.

I'm going to take some time to read up on all of the other stuff you sent me, then I'll let you know. For whatever it's worth, I was reading up on the functions a couple of nights ago, and the one I felt I related to the best was But Socionics is still new to me, I'm still trying to grasp a lot of these concepts after being glued to MBTI for so long.


Ink, what do you mean what do I identify with? Just going completely off of one website (http://www.enneagram.net/type6.html) and it's description alone:

Need
You need predictability, a protective, trustworthy authority and the security of feeling that you belong. You long for guidance to manage the feelings of fear and doubt. You are a “proof junkie” who needs to test people, ideas and beliefs over and over again to see if they are worthy of your loyalty. You need reassurance and encouraging, positive feedback from friends and loved ones.

Avoid
You avoid deviance, uncertainty and anything that is different from any group or idea to which you ascribe. You are highly motivated to avoid disappointing friends or authority figures. Fear and doubt can undermine your sense of safety. You are afraid of fear, submission and cowardice, so you vacillate between loyalty and rebelliousness by puffing up and backing down. You fear anything unproven or radical. You also are afraid of deviating from the norm or being different from your peers. Your greatest fear, however, is to be alone and unprotected.

[Park]

I was reading up on the functions a couple of nights ago, and the one I felt I related to the best was

That's what I would have expected. You definitely seem ego. And I think you'll find that you relate to more than , which would make Alpha NT a good possibility for your type.

[Park]

Try this test if you have the time. It's very short, but usually accurate.

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post786563

[Roro]

Park, I took the test. Can't say that I was very fond of it, but these were my results:

INTp, T subtype

OR

ENFp, no subtype

I took a different test earlier that MisterNi suggested to me. These were my results for that test:
http://www.sociotype.com/tests/index.php?est_id=5094


Jorge, I read all of the descriptions/profiles from your previous post. As with nearly all profiles, I can see myself in bits and pieces of each of the four characters. Of the three profiles (SEI, ESE, ILE) that you sent, ILE stands out the most, followed by ESE.

I've also been reading profile descriptions on another website. There were really only two that stood out to me:
http://www.socionics.com/prof/entp.htm
http://www.socionics.com/prof/isfp.htm

[Beautiful sky]

Yeah, I confirm on ISFp I'm adding you to my list in this thread....http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...270#post817270

And Welcome.

Hey Cardinal, you are very pretty! Not trying to hit on you, I will leave that to the rabid ILE populace here.

Hi. You are SEI like me.

Yes she is.

[Beautiful sky]

"The first encounter with the female SEI is fascinating. She jokes, skillfully she flirts, she knows how to rapidly reduce psychological distance and to enter informal contact. Soft charm penetrates each motion."

I believe, like you said about yourself that you're good with subtle flirting and that's how you've opened this thread...
other things about this type is in here..
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-Portrait-ISFp

Ooops sorry, my bad, you're Te PoLR so maybe looking up and reading this info won't convince you. Ahh, the person of authority is the owner, el presidente, H? Where are you?

I think you're a I at least. Given that you type ISFP in MBTI, just looking at information elements you could be a ESI, however this is not always the case. I'm not sure if I'm receiving any extraverted feeling from you but you seem to be ethical.

Could you tell us a story about yourself, something interesting that happened?

You're the man, you can tell her she's SEI now.

[EyeSeeCold]

There.

[Nowisthetime]

Ok, fine.

http://tinypic.com/r/20h331j/7
http://i56.tinypic.com/27x3zwn
http://tinypic.com/r/2i89lwg/7


Gosh. So much effort, and now my identity is out.

Probably ILE

[Reuben]

Cardinal, if you would like to have my babies, you are most likely ILE. SEI's dislike having babies because they are too lazy to push 'em out.

[Roro]

"The first encounter with the female SEI is fascinating. She jokes, skillfully she flirts, she knows how to rapidly reduce psychological distance and to enter informal contact. Soft charm penetrates each motion."

I believe, like you said about yourself that you're good with subtle flirting and that's how you've opened this thread...
other things about this type is in here..
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-Portrait-ISFp

Ooops sorry, my bad, you're Te PoLR so maybe looking up and reading this info won't convince you. Ahh, the person of authority is the owner, el presidente, H? Where are you?

Wrong. I did not say I was a skillful flirt; I said people assume I'm flirting with them when I'm just being friendly.

Also, outside info does convince me to an extent. But I need good reasoning to go along with it, which you fail to provide. What I want is more of your own thoughts and ideas on a personal level (kind of like Phthalate did by taking my own words, breaking them down with his own thoughts/opinions, and then providing outside sources) and less of the "you fit this profile because this one sentence about flirting applies to you" opinions. If that's how typing is determined, I'd be all 16 types, because I'm almost certain there's going to at least be one sentence in every type profile that sounds a bit like me.



Reuben, are you even capable of making babies?

[Phthalate]

Ooops sorry, my bad, you're Te PoLR so maybe looking up and reading this info won't convince you. Ahh, the person of authority is the owner, el presidente, H? Where are you?

Except... you know... she's also a 6 (counterphobic to top it off), so your approach is... yeah. No.

[Red Villain]

xxtp. I feel like your questions are masked.

[Roro]

xxtp. I feel like your questions are masked.

You can see right through me <3

And my computer screen.

You must be my dual. I'm so SEE. Let's get married.

[mu4]

Ok, I think whatever I said before with introtim is probably wrong. I'm going to hold off until I can get a better impression.

[Reuben]

Reuben, are you even capable of making babies?

No. Only sweet, sweet love.

[Creepy-]

Reuben got ED. cant make any

[Reuben]

it's only when my master's around that I get turned on

[Red Villain]

You can see right through me <3

And my computer screen.

You must be my dual. I'm so SEE. Let's get married.

If only you were a feeling type and not a heartless troll

[MisterNi]

Yeah, Robyn just wants attention from a bunch of guys. She's cool but very attention seeking.