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    ENFj?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
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    that was my guess.

    she looks it, minus this
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    She looks plastic.

    She doesn't seem to have quite the range of expression that one would expect from a feeler, but that does seem to be typical of ENFjs. However, she's clearly j, and I would guess intuitive. Extrovert seems likely. I won't disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan87
    She looks plastic.
    polr?

    She doesn't seem to have quite the range of expression that one would expect from a feeler, but that does seem to be typical of ENFjs.
    i notice this, too. runs the whole spectrum of emotional range, but it's held in check, i think, in ENFj/INFp especially. there's not the added > dimension that makes ESFjs/ISFps move "naturally" (seems like one of those links tranny posted on developing functions mentioned dominance as natural posing/fluid motions.)
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    ENFj. look at her eyes.
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    Wuthering Heights is one of the most brilliant song's I've ever heard... To condense a huge, complicated book like that into, what 20 lines--it's amazing, and pretty funny too.

    She's INFj.
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    Uhm, maybe ISFj
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    she's awesome. i think she's some amazing NF. astralsilky almost talked me into ESFp.
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    IEE.

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    She's definitely Delta NF--either INFj or ENFp... There's Fi everywhere in those interviews.
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    I could see a delta NF rather easily, and then I'd think EII > IEE.
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    udp, what do you think of her type?
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    udp, what do you think of her type?
    I really don't know.

    Man, professional dancers can really be killer with their hips


    Each time I see something that leads towards beta INFp or delta INFj, I'm not really sure. Maybe ENFp. Here stuff is definitely abstract enough to be INFp. But I really can't make out any quadra values. She could easily just be an INFj who has fallen in love with music and dance.

    Her scrupulousness in terms of wanting to focus on her work rather than promoting it (in video 2 or 3 on esper's post) could be more an INFj thing.

    And yet, her music is just so abtract, is it really about ?
    I'm not sure.



    This video makes me think INFj

    I find her attractive there.
    But I can't quite tell what her head movements mean.

    For some reason, how she answers the question of "can you tell us a little bit about the atmosphere of this album" - at the end of that interview - stands out to me. I'm not sure what though.

    Her posture there ALMOST makes me think "Yes, INFp", because it seems lax. And her movement ALMOST reminds me of this INFp I know. But I'm not 100% sure.

    I'd have to talk with her and interact with her more though to know if she is beta or alpha. I haven't found anything conclusive on the net so far.


    PS: I really like her dress in that interview, for some reason. It's totally hot, and I never say that about dresses.
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    Wasn't she one of the girls somebody said I resembled in the chats? Interesting.

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    You know, come to think of it, she looks a LOT like my ENFp mom...

    I told my mom this just now, and she said that people used to make that comparison all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Wasn't she one of the girls somebody said I resembled in the chats? Interesting.
    Actually, I do not see a strong comparison between you two. You seem a lot more blatantly INFp, like the other INFps I know.


    Maybe KB is ENFp. I am really unsure at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Actually, I do not see a strong comparison between you two. You seem a lot more blatantly INFp, like the other INFps I know.


    Maybe KB is ENFp. I am really unsure at this time.
    I've seen enough interviews with her now to write with some confidence that Beta NF seems a long shot... In any of these videos, has anyone seen anything that makes one believe that she values Se..? (echo-o-o-o-o...)

    That said, it's tough to tell between ENFp and INFj... What's cool is that this thread has gotten me into some of her music... Has anyone heard the song suspended in gaffa? It's awesome!! It's nuts--I definitely recommend it, for sure. (Alpha vibe to that song.)

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    i really cannot see infj (in her music, interviews, etc.)
    i really think she's infp.
    the mannerisms in the last video posted really remind me of marilyn monroe's. i also thought that her response about her latest album was unexpected (if you're thinking that she's infj). i think infj's like more to define things themselves and to sort of make sure that people see their ideals and visions the way that they do.
    does her musical style remind anyone else of tori amos?
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    Yeah, people say tori amos a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    i really cannot see infj (in her music, interviews, etc.)
    i really think she's infp.
    the mannerisms in the last video posted really remind me of marilyn monroe's. i also thought that her response about her latest album was unexpected (if you're thinking that she's infj). i think infj's like more to define things themselves and to sort of make sure that people see their ideals and visions the way that they do.
    does her musical style remind anyone else of tori amos?
    There's definitely a lot of Fe in her lyrics and musical arrangements... Also, I see what you mean about Marilyn Monroe in that last interview... Typing by just those elements, I'd tend agree with you about INFp... I'll tell you what too, her accent throws me for a loop, haha.

    I've noticed this though: in her interviews, Fe is not very strong. Fi is more so... I could see her being INFp if behaviors that I've classified as Fi may just be Fe in an one-on-one, intimate interview setting... The group interview posted, however, seems to contradict this idea.

    In other words, good point, lol... I'm not so sure about typing her as Delta anymore.

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    My impression is that she seems to have a focused intensity. And that she wouldn't mind being manhandled. I'd say beta NF for her.


    Personally she makes me uneasy. I feel wary about her. She feels untrustworthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca View Post
    My impression is that she seems to have a focused intensity. And that she wouldn't mind being manhandled. I'd say beta NF for her.


    Personally she makes me uneasy. I feel wary about her. She feels untrustworthy.
    I actually feel this way too, somewhat. She seems too intense and out there to me...not necessarily untrustworthy though. It's hard for me to identify with her.

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    To clarify ^, I went back and re-watched the videos and concluded that I base my perception on her performances, not her interviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbsirena06 View Post
    I actually feel this way too, somewhat. She seems too intense and out there to me...not necessarily untrustworthy though. It's hard for me to identify with her.
    Yes about the intensity thing. When I watch her performances, her videos, I get seriously put off. Like she sacrifices quality of production for theatrics.

    I get the impression of being careful around her from her interviews. She strikes me as being shifty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca View Post
    Yes about the intensity thing. When I watch her performances, her videos, I get seriously put off. Like she sacrifices quality of production for theatrics.
    Yes, I agree with this. The "overacting" thing really puts me off in general. I know there's a point to it in the theatrical sense, but it just doesn't appeal to me. It strikes me as fake, which I can't stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca View Post
    My impression is that she seems to have a focused intensity. And that she wouldn't mind being manhandled. I'd say beta NF for her.


    Personally she makes me uneasy. I feel wary about her. She feels untrustworthy.
    Good point.


    I have a hard time typing her really.
    Right now I'm thinking INFp. But I'm not entirely sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    I've noticed this though: in her interviews, Fe is not very strong. Fi is more so... I could see her being INFp if behaviors that I've classified as Fi may just be Fe in an one-on-one, intimate interview setting... The group interview posted, however, seems to contradict this idea.
    I see a lot of Fe and very little Fi in the interviews, actually. It's just that subtle Fe creative kind.

    Also, the thing about Kate Bush's music is that there is so much Fe. Any musician/actor/whatever is going to seem more Fe-ish, but I don't think any type other than Fe-ego would _choose_ Kate Bush's style as his/her personal artistic expression. Just watching her music videos and imagining myself doing her thing gives me an immediate "I would never do that in public" feeling, which makes sense to me because I have 8th function Fe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Also, the thing about Kate Bush's music is that there is so much Fe. Any musician/actor/whatever is going to seem more Fe-ish, but I don't think any type other than Fe-ego would _choose_ Kate Bush's style as his/her personal artistic expression. Just watching her music videos and imagining myself doing her thing gives me an immediate "I would never do that in public" feeling, which makes sense to me because I have 8th function Fe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    I see a lot of Fe and very little Fi in the interviews, actually. It's just that subtle Fe creative kind.
    I admit, it's a lot more subtle than I'm used to seeing...

    I'm leaning with you toward INFp.

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    I vote IEI. She really REALLY reminds me of Marilyn Monroe in her interviews. The way they look around with that "look" that I now associate with the softer IEIs. It's a very dreamy, "not quite there" thing, with eyes wandering around absentmindedly as if they are searching for just the right words to answer the question with.

    Her music is over-the-top, lol, I just watched some videos and her dancing is um... interesting? But I am strangely drawn to her. I feel a relation to her which usually comes with Beta NFs. She has that freaky, odd quality that IEIs tend to have, especially IEIs in the entertainment industry.

    IEEs are not like that.


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    Yeah. The more I look at her videos the more I can see movements that really remind me of this INFp I know. Her posture, how she uses her eyebrows, etc.
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    she is xNFp. The most notable aspect of her interviews is the ease with which she communicates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    She has that freaky, odd quality that IEIs tend to have, especially IEIs in the entertainment industry.

    IEEs are not like that.
    Yeah, we just think it's weird....

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbsirena06 View Post
    Yeah, we just think it's weird....
    i agree, she is very airy in the way she IS and TALKS. IEI is my vote.

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    Yeah, I guess I see some similarities between her and other IEI's, like Princess Diana, and Audrey Hepburn.

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    It's awesome when we talk about things like this and arrive at a consensus... I feel like I understand INFp's better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    It's awesome when we talk about things like this and arrive at a consensus... I feel like I understand INFp's better.
    not when it's the result of Groupthink though.... but I don't think that's the case here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    not when it's the result of Groupthink though.... but I don't think that's the case here.
    yeah, I agree... I haven't seen a lot of groupthink on this forum, at least lately... there are a lot of pretty independent-minded ppl here at this point in time.

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