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    What draws you IEIs to SLEs; what makes them attractive in your eyes? I've read the socionic descriptions, I want to hear of personal experiences.

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    SLE girls.. they just click right. Hard to say why. Its just the vibe they have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
    What draws you IEIs to SLEs; what makes them attractive in your eyes? I've read the socionic descriptions, I want to hear of personal experiences.
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    their heightened awareness of their surroundings (EP types have a lot of this kind of outer-awareness), their energy and drive (SLEs are usually very much in touch with what they want while IEI's wishes are rather vague and unconscious), their flexibility, ability to quickly re-orient, sponteneity/randomness granted by their irrationality
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    Their confidence in the face of what seems, to me, to be doomed to certain failure.



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    They stand out because they aggressively hunt and stalk you for days without giving up... otherwise, I probably wouldn't even know they existed. I tend to live in my own little bubble.
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    Don't look behind you starfall, because I'm there right now.
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    SLE's seem so different from the outside but talking to them you realise you're the same. They make you feel safe and make you laugh without intending to. They know how to smooth talk, they're experienced and very clever but innocent at the same time. The way they are not afraid to stare right into you're eyes and lick their lips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walker31 View Post
    SLE's seem so different from the outside but talking to them you realise you're the same. They make you feel safe and make you laugh without intending to. They know how to smooth talk, they're experienced and very clever but innocent at the same time. The way they are not afraid to stare right into you're eyes and lick their lips.
    Yes yes yes, to all of this! They do make you feel safe. I love how protective & loyal they are to the ones they love & trust. I also love the whole confident eye contact thing. I've noticed that a lot of guys are nervous about making eye contact with me, but I don't get that with SLE's. They focus directly on you.
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    Loving these threads as of late. They make me realize something. The best type descriptions you will ever read are the ones made by your duals. They just seem to understand you more than anyone else.

    [QUOTE=Reuben;805577]Don't look behind you starfall, because I'm there right now.[/QUOTE]

    Lol. You ILE's have your little ways as well.
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    Hey Glamo get on cam, I want to stare you down

    Hahaha
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    hot secks~
    언제나.

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    Oh yea starfall, do you go to stickam?
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    Social orgasm. Obviously.



    Esper, do you stickam?
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    SLE are fun, warm, outgoing, they are persuasive about what ideas or parts of reality they believe in; this isn't enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratsshadow View Post
    SLE girls.. they just click right. Hard to say why. Its just the vibe they have
    I don't know how anyone can click with them, especially the women. I know plenty of them, including my mom, but recently I met an ESTp and she was all up in my face, which is something they love to do and I hate that. She managed to step on my foot and I just stood their acting all subservient like I always do with ESTps.
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    My number one priority and what makes me most attracted to SLEs is their amazing capacity to sort of naturally tell the difference between my bullshit and my real issues. And they don't really step on my real issues, and if they do, it's rare. But they'll call me on bullshit like all the time. And if I talk too much they tell me to shut up. I like that. I also like how they're pursuing something, 'cause I'm pursuing something, and I have no interest in being with a girl who isn't after anything. How can we be on the same team, how can I support you, if we don't have a goal? And if I'm not supporting you, why would you support me?

    So yeah, those are some reasons SLEs are cool. But really, for you, what you need to know is: be yourself. Completely yourself. Don't lie, don't bullshit, don't anything, and IEI girls will like you for it. Obviously if you feel the urge to do something exceedingly stupid/inappropriate, then don't because there's a limit even to what IEIs find charming/cute/acceptable craziness. But short of like full-on crazy (and you probably have very little full-on crazy in you), let it all hang out. Be real. Pursue them like you know you can and want to. Act. Move. Persuade. Do. Chase. They'll eat it up, sooner or later.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...

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    @morcheeba

    low-level ESTps != all ESTps

    @silverchris

    Very interesting perspective. Will you care to have a personal chat with me so that I can practice my SLE skills on you? I'm intending to catch a few IEIs in my net, and I hope you can support my passionate pursuit.

    I'm serious btw.
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    Their directness and confidence makes this pressure slide right off of my shoulders; I feel like I'm taken under their wing in some weird way. They're grounded.

    I feel almost instantly safe around the right SLE's. They give me practical advice, look me in the eye, and I feel like I can trust them.

    I can bounce how I'm feeling off of them, and they help reassure me, a lot like LSI's do. I need someone that can be blunt with me and call me out, like silverchris said, when I need to be called out. They tell me what I need to hear.

    At the opposite end of the spectrum, I hate when someone is being vague about their feelings or playing games; I just want someone who can be honest with me and tell me what's going through their head. Not knowing what is going on and having to guess kills me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    @silverchris

    Very interesting perspective. Will you care to have a personal chat with me so that I can practice my SLE skills on you? I'm intending to catch a few IEIs in my net, and I hope you can support my passionate pursuit.

    I'm serious btw.
    You do know I'm a guy...?
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

    Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...

    I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    @silverchris

    Very interesting perspective. Will you care to have a personal chat with me so that I can practice my SLE skills on you? I'm intending to catch a few IEIs in my net, and I hope you can support my passionate pursuit.

    I'm serious btw.
    You do know I'm a guy...?
    ILEs don't differentiate sex, they don't know what sex they are themselves. Besides, this one is homosexual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    @silverchris

    Very interesting perspective. Will you care to have a personal chat with me so that I can practice my SLE skills on you? I'm intending to catch a few IEIs in my net, and I hope you can support my passionate pursuit.

    I'm serious btw.
    You do know I'm a guy...?
    lmao
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    @chris

    Of course I know, dumbass

    I need to snare IEIs in general, and since you're a dood, there's no chance you'll fall in love with me.

    @starfall

    Don't laugh your ass out, it's so seductive. We don't take kindly to that around here
    She is wise
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    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    ....

    What's the matter silverchris? You don't want to be womanized, then passionately swooned by a man? You do realize this would help reuben 'snag' INFps in the future, do you not?
    Last edited by rat1; 09-05-2011 at 04:36 AM.

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    ^what he said.

    Perfect mirror there crazedrat, you have perfected the art of ambiguous post tone and intention, coupled with high but subtle levels of mimicry
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    Thank you reuben, your approval means alot

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    @crazedrat

    Hey IEI right? I'll make do with you first. Come over here you
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    They stand out because they aggressively hunt and stalk you for days without giving up...
    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Yes yes yes, to all of this! They do make you feel safe. I love how protective & loyal they are to the ones they love & trust.

    Does this seem oddly contradictory to anyone else?

    I guess SLE are many things to the same person.

    IEE Ne Creative Type

    Some and role lovin too. () I too...
    !!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratsshadow View Post
    ....

    What's the matter silverchris? You don't want to be womanized, then passionately swooned by a man? You do realize this would help reuben 'snag' INFps in the future, do you not?
    God damn crazedrat, you're too smart for your own good, try to dumb yourself down, this will help you get along better in life. No, I'm serious, people are gonna hate you and you're never gonna get laid because your too insightful. Don't end up like Nietzshe, that brilliant man couldn't get a piece of ass , lol.
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    Nope. They stalk you down, then guard you as their most sacred treasure. I know, because I'm currently selecting the hardest diamond case to place you in so no one can steal you away without being shot in the chest by my palace guardian force
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    @morcheeba

    Most likely he took your suggestion.
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcheeba View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratsshadow View Post
    ....

    What's the matter silverchris? You don't want to be womanized, then passionately swooned by a man? You do realize this would help reuben 'snag' INFps in the future, do you not?
    God damn crazedrat, you're too smart for your own good, try to dumb yourself down, this will help you get along better in life. No, I'm serious, people are gonna hate you and you're never gonna get laid because your too insightful. Don't end up like Nietzshe, that brilliant man couldn't get a piece of ass , lol.
    ; )

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    @crazedrat

    I want to play more number games
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


    Why I love LSEs:
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie
    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    They stand out because they aggressively hunt and stalk you for days without giving up...
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    Yes yes yes, to all of this! They do make you feel safe. I love how protective & loyal they are to the ones they love & trust.

    Does this seem oddly contradictory to anyone else?

    I guess SLE are many things to the same person.
    lol like I said, SLE's are like doggies. At first the hunt is a game to them; the more challenging, the better. If they feel like they can trust you & you pass their little tests then they begin to see you as valuable. They'll want to keep you around & stay by your side.
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    Only female SLEs are like doggies.
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
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    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


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    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
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    Does this seem oddly contradictory to anyone else?

    I guess SLE are many things to the same person.
    lol like I said, SLE's are like doggies. At first the hunt is a game to them; the more challenging, the better. If they feel like they can trust you & you pass their little tests then they begin to see you as valuable. They'll want to keep you around & stay by your side.

    Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. An SLE should be more likely than any other type to pursue a person they're interested in and pretty likely to win the affections of their pursued. So an IEI would be "deep" and different enough from themselves to keep things interested when they've won the chase so to speak.

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    My number one priority and what makes me most attracted to SLEs is their amazing capacity to sort of naturally tell the difference between my bullshit and my real issues. And they don't really step on my real issues, and if they do, it's rare. But they'll call me on bullshit like all the time. And if I talk too much they tell me to shut up.
    Sometimes when I start talking, I'll pause and apologize for talking too much and SLE will say "no, no, I like it when you talk! keep going!" I guess cause I'm usually not the one doing most of the talking (especially when with SLE-Se who talks all.the.time).

    But to answer the question, I'm drawn to them because of their self-confidence and propensity to say what they think, to tell it like it is, to get things done, to make hard decisions without looking back, to think for themselves with their own sense of right and wrong. I like their unapologetic nature and their soft, sensitive heart that would literally do anything, including kill, for those they love.
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    Too many stereotypes and/or the people you people are talking about aren't SLE. Or atleast not like me. Could be enneagram type difference, but I doubt it.

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