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    Default block subtype

    After remembering some work from freud on obsessionnal nevrosis (know now as OCD), Ive ask me the possibility that subtype can be organized in block too...

    If block from model A can be understand as freud "block", we can perhaps organize subtype in block, ie LSI-ego , LSI-id , ect... Finally this is linked somewhat to 16 sub system :

    EII - ego : pure pattern ?
    EII - id : EII - IEI
    EII - super id : EII - LSE
    EII - super ego : EII - LSI


    idk if this is observable IRL, or if this link to some existing socionic stuff...
    Perhaps we can get from this some way to categorizing more in the 8 subtype system, as
    EII - id (EII-Fe , EII-Ni) will have certain common caracteristics (cuz even if Ni & Fe are totally different, its a function from id who is strengthened, ie used like an id function (always if we understand 4 block having 4 different functionnality, a bit like freud said))
    EII - super ego (EII-Ti, EII-Se) some other, ect
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    Block subtype is mentioned here: http://uralsocionics.ru/article/118


    Quote Originally Posted by machine translation
    2. Blocks

    These same pair of functions (Superego, Id, rarely SUPERID) can be so important in the perception and behavior, we can say nothing about updating the unit. It is such a thing means, for example, socionic-jargon "to sit on the Superego." It is possible to draw some conclusions related to the current situation in life man. For example, "sitting on the Superego" may be a reaction to hard external scrutiny - the social or, for example, a parent, updating block Eid - a consequence of difficulties in self-realization and implementation of its attempt to "bypass" of the block ego. (This update is complemented by substantive structural, and it is difficult to say which of them is primary.)

    It seems quite sensible in certain situations, updating and other functional blocks socionics model, say, a "creative block", "strategy", etc. [Shepetko E. Lectures (unpublished)].

    Another classification of subtypes based on the strengthening of the "right" or "left" of the block. These blocks consist not of two, and only four functions. Left Bloc - inert - includes 1, 4, 6 and 7 functions; right - pin - 2, 3, 5, 8. For example, Don Quixote may be user-ethical or logical-sensory subtype [Tsypin PE System subtypes. / / Secrets of the typing. - Moscow: Black Squirrel, 2004].

    It should be noted that the magnitude of this subtype is characterized not only the actualization of the corresponding functions, but also influences the manifestation of the attribute "rationality-irrationality." The "left" subtype of this character is strengthened, while the "right" - is weakened, for example, rational type of "right" subtype shows more irrational than it is "supposed" base Tim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowisthetime View Post
    Block subtype is mentioned here: http://uralsocionics.ru/article/118


    Quote Originally Posted by machine translation
    2. Blocks

    These same pair of functions (Superego, Id, rarely SUPERID) can be so important in the perception and behavior, we can say nothing about updating the unit. It is such a thing means, for example, socionic-jargon "to sit on the Superego." It is possible to draw some conclusions related to the current situation in life man. For example, "sitting on the Superego" may be a reaction to hard external scrutiny - the social or, for example, a parent, updating block Eid - a consequence of difficulties in self-realization and implementation of its attempt to "bypass" of the block ego. (This update is complemented by substantive structural, and it is difficult to say which of them is primary.)

    It seems quite sensible in certain situations, updating and other functional blocks socionics model, say, a "creative block", "strategy", etc. [Shepetko E. Lectures (unpublished)].

    Another classification of subtypes based on the strengthening of the "right" or "left" of the block. These blocks consist not of two, and only four functions. Left Bloc - inert - includes 1, 4, 6 and 7 functions; right - pin - 2, 3, 5, 8. For example, Don Quixote may be user-ethical or logical-sensory subtype [Tsypin PE System subtypes. / / Secrets of the typing. - Moscow: Black Squirrel, 2004].

    It should be noted that the magnitude of this subtype is characterized not only the actualization of the corresponding functions, but also influences the manifestation of the attribute "rationality-irrationality." The "left" subtype of this character is strengthened, while the "right" - is weakened, for example, rational type of "right" subtype shows more irrational than it is "supposed" base Tim.
    Yes, thank you! The left or right shift subtype seems to describe me perfectly. I'm >95% confident I'm an ILE but due to environmental pressures, my subtype has shifted accommodate . That may have had a residual effect of becoming more aware of and my use or non-use of it.

    Once again, many thanks.

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