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    I'm very concerned about IEE and their experience of terrible headaches. If any of you know any IEE who have these and have found reasonable solutions, please post their experience with regard to this topic in this thread. Has drinking plenty of water helped this extraverted mirrors in combating this problem? Have IEE men also experienced this problem?
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    LOL, where did I say such a silly thing?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
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    Delta, I'm very concerned about the poisoning of water in the process of dying cotton (releases formaldehyde into the water). As you may know about me already, I purchase recycled clothes in my very small attempt or part in playing a role in our environment's well-being (every little bit helps); now, I will stay away from purchasing dyed cotton. Children and people from usually third worlds drink this water and it's very serious.
    Headaches > Serious Water.
    Yeah, I didn't mean to say "don't drink water"; I meant to say that because cotton is most often dyed in third world sweat shops where they use unsanitary means in doing so, it leaches bad water into their drinking water. People should drink clean water, lots of it, but not a lot all at once.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    What are you babbling about now? Are there any other common human qualities that you could possibly quarantine to a particular type? Perhaps you have met or spoken with many IEE's who have had "terrible headaches," but what ungodly lapse of critical reasoning would possess you to believe that such are inherent and existent only in IEE's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nil View Post
    What are you babbling about now? Are there any other common human qualities that you could possibly quarantine to a particular type? Perhaps you have met or spoken with many IEE's who have had "terrible headaches," but what ungodly lapse of critical reasoning would possess you to believe that such are inherent and existent only in IEE's?
    I thought it was a humorous parody of the ridiculous things some people believe to be type-related. If this was the intent, then the post was indeed funny. But if it was an honest query, then God help us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nil View Post
    What are you babbling about now? Are there any other common human qualities that you could possibly quarantine to a particular type? Perhaps you have met or spoken with many IEE's who have had "terrible headaches," but what ungodly lapse of critical reasoning would possess you to believe that such are inherent and existent only in IEE's?
    Being so miserably deficient, ENFps don't have proper judgment enough to know when to eat, go to sleep, change their diaper, or exhale.

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    I have had horrible headaches for the past 5 months. They have just started to go away, but I felt like my head weighed twice as much at certain times. However, I assure you it is not type related as I'm aware of the cause of the headaches.
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    improper diet, lack of consistency in sleep or eating patterns, stress, allergens,

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    Nope can't say that I have a problem with HAs, actually, Maritsa. Except on occasion when, as ryu and galen said, I was stressed, overfatigued, and a mix of caffeine withdrawal and very bright sunlight. It's only happened 3-4 times in my life though. Certainly not a chronic issue though. I highly doubt it's type related as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
    Headaches > Serious Water.
    Yeah, I didn't mean to say "don't drink water"; I meant to say that because cotton is most often dyed in third world sweat shops where they use unsanitary means in doing so, it leaches bad water into their drinking water. People should drink clean water, lots of it, but not a lot all at once.
    There are IEEs in Third World countries too. Anyhow you get those sitting in a fixed position in front of PC.

    Try a massage, hot shower, caffeine or aspirin and yea, don't drink water from Third World countries, you can die and get headache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd
    ..and yea, don't drink water from Third World countries, you can die and get headache.
    And you can die and get headache precisely in that order. First die, then get a headache. Yeah, indeed so. Serious business this Third World Countries water. If something doesn't change radically we can expect even wars for water and whatnot. Yeah, indeed so. I appeal to people's common sense and humanitarian core; that their common sense and humanitarian core prevails, rather than things opposite to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyst Trevor View Post
    And you can die and get headache precisely in that order. First die, then get a headache.
    I'm surprised you didn't grow a second brain after eating sheep shit.

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    Son, I am dissapoint.

    IT'S NOT TYPE RELATED!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khola View Post
    Son, I am dissapoint.

    IT'S NOT TYPE RELATED!
    well played

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    I don't care if it's type-related or not.

    There are a few things that can cause headaches.

    Caffeine withdrawal (headache only lasts a day or so)

    Monosodium Glutamate - in foods such as Chinese food, and also in many other foods - read the labels. It can also sometimes be called 'natural flavoring' or 'hydrolyzed vegetable protein.' Not all natural flavoring is monosodium glutamate, however.

    Artificial sweeteners - in many foods. Nutrasweet can cause a lot of other health problems besides headaches. For instance, it can cause some people to develop something that resembles multiple sclerosis.

    Any prescription drugs, over-the-counter drugs, natural herbal drugs, or vitamin/mineral pills could be causing headaches. Did the headaches begin when you started using the drugs? Withdrawal from particular drugs can also cause headaches.

    Fluorescent lights, including the (insert long string of curse words) energy-saving compact fluorescent bulbs. Don't get me started about those horrible things. They are evil incarnate. Don't ever, ever drop one and break it.

    Medical problems: There are medical problems that can cause headaches, but I don't know enough about this. I'm more interested in common, ordinary things like chemicals in foods, because those are things you can troubleshoot easily yourself.

    Those are just a few things off the top of my head. I'm sure I'll remember more later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1e View Post
    I don't care if it's type-related or not.

    There are a few things that can cause headaches.

    Caffeine withdrawal (headache only lasts a day or so)

    Monosodium Glutamate - in foods such as Chinese food, and also in many other foods - read the labels. It can also sometimes be called 'natural flavoring' or 'hydrolyzed vegetable protein.' Not all natural flavoring is monosodium glutamate, however.

    Artificial sweeteners - in many foods. Nutrasweet can cause a lot of other health problems besides headaches. For instance, it can cause some people to develop something that resembles multiple sclerosis.

    Any prescription drugs, over-the-counter drugs, natural herbal drugs, or vitamin/mineral pills could be causing headaches. Did the headaches begin when you started using the drugs? Withdrawal from particular drugs can also cause headaches.

    Fluorescent lights, including the (insert long string of curse words) energy-saving compact fluorescent bulbs. Don't get me started about those horrible things. They are evil incarnate. Don't ever, ever drop one and break it.

    Medical problems: There are medical problems that can cause headaches, but I don't know enough about this. I'm more interested in common, ordinary things like chemicals in foods, because those are things you can troubleshoot easily yourself.

    Those are just a few things off the top of my head. I'm sure I'll remember more later.


    and yes, the fluorescent lights contain mercury inside, so dont break em
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    and yes, the fluorescent lights contain mercury inside, so dont break em
    Nor eat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    and yes, the fluorescent lights contain mercury inside, so dont break em
    Nor eat them.
    Oh yeah, and that reminds me. Dental fillings. But not the mercury-containing ones, the plastic ones. The plastic dental fillings can cause headaches too. They contain large amounts of bisphenol-A. When I got my old metal filling replaced with a plastic one (and also got another unnecessary plastic filling in another tooth at the same time) I went out of the frying pan into the fire, and started having symptoms caused by the plastic ones, which were different from, but just as bad as, the symptoms I had from the metallic one. Headaches were one of the symptoms I experienced from the plastic fillings. Fortunately this died down a lot after a few months.

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    Dr Nico1e has arrived!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Dr Nico1e has arrived!
    thanks, I wish I made that much money.

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    IEEs get headaches, SLEs have cleft palates. socionics explains everything.












    tension headaches = stress/fatigue like mentioned above.
    those are the most common.
    I feel sinus pressure headaches when I'm exposed to pollen.
    ntr. at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    IEEs get headaches, SLEs have cleft palates. socionics explains everything.

    tension headaches = stress/fatigue like mentioned above.
    those are the most common.
    I feel sinus pressure headaches when I'm exposed to pollen.
    ntr. at all.
    I get headaches in the morning after way too much alcohol the day before. So it is pretty type related I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1e View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Dr Nico1e has arrived!
    thanks, I wish I made that much money.
    It seems entirely possible for you to position yourself in a lucrative career, if that's what you want.

    No ?

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    I had pneumonia when I was 6 months old. What type am I?

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    TYPE WITH MUCH STREN'TH TO OVERCOME ILLNESS

    STRONG LIKE BULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by he died with a felafel View Post
    and it didn't seem like Maritsa was saying it was (tr), just that her friends suffer from this.
    Maritsa says a lot of things, most of them are so illogical a part of me dies every minute.

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    Oh come on now, I've known 5 or so IEE in my life and they've all suffered from odd headaches. I don't know why. I always figured it was because they were too busy or something, too much oriented to the objective world and ignored their ignored relaxing, but I'm starting to suspect genetic reasons for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CILi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Oh come on now, I've known 5 or so IEE in my life and they've all suffered
    You don't owe me anymore.

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    That's because IEE's like bumping their heads into wall. I know 2 IEE's both often sufering headaches, but I don't think it's type related.

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    Some IEEs like getting their heads bumped against walls. They'd just never admit it in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1e View Post

    thanks, I wish I made that much money.
    It seems entirely possible for you to position yourself in a lucrative career, if that's what you want.

    No ?
    The new career that I'm focused on, for the time being, is bookkeeping. I will gradually move towards becoming an accountant. Bookkeeping is something that I enjoy doing, and it requires the least amount of money to start doing it. You can be a bookkeeper without going to college, and yet, bookkeepers are able to make a huge amount of money if they do particular things - some of them charge $50 an hour.

    Right now I am actually working with a guy who runs his own lawnmowing business. (He seems to be LSE.) We're going to set up a bookkeeping system for him so that he can keep track of his expenses and revenues and taxes. But I haven't actually started doing any work for him - we're just discussing the ideas at the moment. Still, it makes me feel better to make progress in my life instead of just working at McDonald's, where I can't get much of a raise in pay.

    I don't feel comfortable borrowing money to go to college at the moment because I don't trust myself to complete all the work and make it all the way through. I might feel more secure in the future though - it's not out of the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1e View Post
    I don't feel comfortable borrowing money to go to college at the moment because I don't trust myself to complete all the work and make it all the way through. I might feel more secure in the future though - it's not out of the question.
    Man, SLIs and their self-doubt. All the SLIs I know are very conscientious, hard-working (without sacrificing balance in their lives, which is also important), and have excelled. Even though they think they're not all that. They are.

    I think it's your eye for perfectionism that makes you guys so self-doubtful.

    You can do ANYTHING you set your mind to, Nico1e. It's not about trusting yourself to do it, because if you have to do something and have a goal in mind, you will get it done. And well too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Oh come on now, I've known 5 or so IEE in my life and they've all suffered from odd headaches. I don't know why. I always figured it was because they were too busy or something, too much oriented to the objective world and ignored their ignored relaxing, but I'm starting to suspect genetic reasons for this.
    Assuming you typed them correctly, of course...

    I mean, it's entirely possible, sure, that the IEEs you know are so Si-deficient that they've gotten to the point where they have these chronic headaches. I've had Si handled by my SEI mother for a good portion of my life, so that could be why I dont have those issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1e View Post
    I don't feel comfortable borrowing money to go to college at the moment because I don't trust myself to complete all the work and make it all the way through. I might feel more secure in the future though - it's not out of the question.
    Man, SLIs and their self-doubt. All the SLIs I know are very conscientious, hard-working (without sacrificing balance in their lives, which is also important), and have excelled. Even though they think they're not all that. They are.

    I think it's your eye for perfectionism that makes you guys so self-doubtful.

    You can do ANYTHING you set your mind to, Nico1e. It's not about trusting yourself to do it, because if you have to do something and have a goal in mind, you will get it done. And well too.
    Thank you for saying that, and yeah, there is perfectionism involved. When I was temporarily in college, before I dropped out, I often gave up on my classes completely if I got behind in the homework, because the class was no longer 'perfect' and I couldn't stand to get a B or a C.... so, oddly enough, I was able to tolerate getting an F. (Yeah, explain THAT rationale. Sort of negative perfectionism.)

    But actually some of it is because I am reluctant to borrow money. However, I am going to slowly do some more progress in this direction in the next few years, I'm just being extremely cautious and frustratingly slow about it... If I do go to school, I might start with a school that doesn't cost very much, so I can avoid going too deeply into debt.

    But thank you though, I know you have seen other people like me who succeeded. I will too, but it takes a long time for me.

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