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    We all know what Fe-seeking looks like, and certainly we aren't afraid to brandish that particular diagnosis around.

    But what does Ti-seeking look like? You never hear it mentioned.
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    Ti-seeking: hard to hell...so far, it is easy to spot Si-seekers




    Seriously speaking, Ti seekers value serious,pedantic people with glasses and star wars t-shirts
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    Wanting practical/intellectual/"cool" intellectual/rational direction in your life. It's not all that different from Te-seeking to be honest. One is just based on internal thinking, the other on external thinking.

    People have a tendency to overcomplicate socionics to sound intelligent, but really all they are doing is spewing out word salad. It sounds pretty, but there's nothing behind the prettiness.

    I sometimes think that I am Ti-seeking sometimes. But that is just a neurotic internet thought that goes away when I'm getting laid. It still is interesting to me nonetheless. Does it have to be interesting to everybody else too. Can't it just be interesting to me. <3

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    Well, I think seeking involves looking for relations that do not change, heirarchy which does not change, and principles which do not change. I've always had a desire for stability in my life, for these things which I mentioned above, that are stable as opposed to which seeks change.

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    Fe types who can't come to conclusions about things because of their emotional expressions of objective things and start rambling their thoughts expecting their dual to do what they do, which is make strict and well-grounded conclusions.

    ESEs wild emotions often collide with objectivity in his understanding of what needs to be done.

    Ti acts - concludes with first sorting out their thoughts categories, analyzing them, then making conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Fe types who can't come to conclusions about things because of their emotional expressions of objective things and start rambling their thoughts expecting their dual to do what they do, which is make strict and well-grounded conclusions.

    ESEs wild emotions often collide with objectivity in his understanding of what needs to be done.
    Do you write this yourself, or are you reading from something ;D?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Fe types who can't come to conclusions about things because of their emotional expressions of objective things and start rambling their thoughts expecting their dual to do what they do, which is make strict and well-grounded conclusions.

    ESEs wild emotions often collide with objectivity in his understanding of what needs to be done.
    Do you write this yourself, or are you reading from something ;D?
    LOL I'm still editing it, but I read it from here:

    http://socioniko.net/en/1.3.rels/dual-1j.html

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    Interesting page, how do you access all of the relations if you dont mind me asking?

    EDIT: nvm I found it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    Interesting page, how do you access all of the relations if you dont mind me asking?

    EDIT: nvm I found it
    I would be happy to send it to you in here:



    http://socioniko.net/en/1.3.rels/dual.html

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    yeah, I found the page but couldnt pin down the link. I dunno how you got it to work, lol, I just clicked that page and got the same address as the main menu. Thanks.

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    Status, recognition, acknowledgement, rating/assessment, placement... Though these are more for Beta LSI seeking than Alpha LII seeking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Status, recognition, acknowledgement, rating/assessment, placement...
    Wouldnt all this have more to do with ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Status, recognition, acknowledgement, rating/assessment, placement...
    Wouldnt all this have more to do with ?
    I elaborated but you quoted me already. I think it's better not to separate the blocked functions to understand their manifestations.
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    Here's a general observation...not sure if other people's experience agrees:

    People who seem to be Fe types generally don't want you to solve their problem, but they do appreciate help about how to think about it. Of course, there's a typical "Men from Mars / Women from Venus" cliche that women don't appreciate when men try to solve their problem directly by saying "just do this" or whatever. But it seems to possibly be related to Fe vs. Fi.

    In my experience, Fi types do appreciate if you just give them they answer. You don't have to beat about the bush; you can just say what the solution is and the reason for it. That might be a sign of Te valuing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Seriously speaking, Ti seekers value serious,pedantic people with glasses and star wars t-shirts
    that sounds more alpha-ish ... beta Ti-seeking is more like this:




    Quote Originally Posted by Cat King Cole View Post
    But what does Ti-seeking look like? You never hear it mentioned.
    since you self-type as SEI how do you experience it for Alpha?

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    Just as I thought -- nobody here bloody knows what Fe-leading is.

    Siuntal, while I do agree most of those bikers are Beta ST, most Beta STs are, in fact, not bikers. The average Beta ST looks more like (or aspires to look more like) this:

    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Just as I thought -- nobody here bloody knows what Fe-leading is.
    care to explain?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Siuntal, while I do agree most of those bikers are Beta ST, most Beta STs are, in fact, not bikers. The average Beta ST looks more like (or aspires to look more like) this:
    that was a joke

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    I don't know, seeking structure, a way to view the crazy changing world around them in smaller, more precise terms? Searching for a paradigm? Meh. I'm not one of those geniuses that can sort everything out. Sorry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by siuntal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Just as I thought -- nobody here bloody knows what Fe-leading is.
    care to explain?
    Not really.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat King Cole View Post

    But what does Ti-seeking look like? You never hear it mentioned.
    Suggestive Ti in ESE:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/mindthem.../4/lf9J4Ruz8Vs

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