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    None of the SLEs I know, really enjoy sports. One of them likes tennis (watching and playing). Another one used to enjoy boxing and will still watch it from time to time. But the other two or three don't have use for ANY sports whatsoever. And they all hate golf.

    I find that kind of interesting. Maybe just coincidental tho.
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    My SLE is a sports fanatic. He played soccer in high school and played for a local soccer team until recently. He also gets really passionate about watching sports too; football, soccer, basketball, ect.

    My old SLE neighbor was also really sporty & jockish. He also played soccer. I know another SLE girl who's really into surfing & horseback riding.

    I personally couldn't care less about sports though I love working out.
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    Well, when it comes to sports, beta quadra members take it seriously. I have noticed that amateur soccer teams, karate schools, gyms, etc are filled with beta people. They seem to feel at ease when "fighting". Speaking on watching sports, the SLEs I know love it.
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    Two SLE friends used to be pretty good football players. They were kind of built like stereotypical linebackers. They don't play anymore, but that's mostly about age. It's kind of odd you don't know any like that though. Sports are kind of popular in general. I mean, I self-type IEI, and played a lot of basketball when I was younger. That was partly my dad's influence, but I was also into skateboarding on my own.. I had some bad wipeouts so I don't do it as much, but I still keep a board in my car just in case.

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    Hmmm... SLEs I know aren't much into sports, but that's 'cause I don't hang out with people in general that would be into sports. I do think the sports team mentality is fairly typical of SLEs though. I have one SLE friend who plays golf, but he doesn't like it so much.
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    My little SLE cousin is obsessed with basketball and is really good at it. I couldn't generalize from the SLEs I know if it's something that most enjoy or not.

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    I can't remember the bf ever planning to watch a sports match. I stay up to watch the tennis and gymnastics more than he does

    His hobbies are largely solo sports though. Rock climbing, wakeboarding, skydiving, snowboarding, long distance running, squash. He spends a lot of money on sports equipment which he doesn't have time to use. He played team sports when he was younger, but it's Australia, everyone does

    The other SLEs I know:

    - male - goes to gym a lot, knows everything about bodybuilding, plays squash and tennis but isn't very invested in them (no regular schedule), doesn't follow sports teams but watches the tennis

    - female - every once in a while decides to swim regularly, but it only lasts about a week

    Not sure about the sports habits of the rest.

    I get the feeling that some SLEs actually prefer solo sports though, because they don't like losing because of their teammates and don't feel right pressuring others as much as they pressure themselves.
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    The SLE I know are very physically built, big and tough looking, but very soft, emotionally. LOL. My SLE friend did not like the idea of physical contact in hockey, although he was built like a brick wall at 6'4"; he does enjoy golf. He said he passed hockey up because he saw what happened to the men and he didn't want to get beat up.

    SLI are much more likely to participate in baseball, football, soccer. I have seen SLE cyclists. Seems like SLE like sports that involve long practice, skill building, detail orientation, and dedication.

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    The SLE I know are very physically built
    Same here. My very good SLE friend has a set of calves on her that make mine look pathetic...

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    All of the ones I know love to work out but can take or leave watching football or basketball on tv. Maybe they're more participatory than spectator.
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    The only reason I started watching sports is because of SLE. He's obsessed. He's the kind of guy who will wear his teams jerseys while games are playing. When he's at a restaurant he'll ask them to change it to the game. To him the Superbowl is a very important life event. He's very passionate about his teams. He just about killed himself when the Heat lost.



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    I frankly don't know that many SLEs. Of the ones I do, most do enjoy sports. They're a fun challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    I frankly don't know that many SLEs. Of the ones I do, most do enjoy sports. They're a fun challenge.
    Lol like you would be a much of a sport man with that fatty stomach of yours and being so lazy. You are so fake

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    Some SLEs I know enjoy sports, some don't. My father doesn't - he competed in and enjoyed wrestling and boxing in college, but that's really as far as his involvement with sports ever extended. He'd generally-speaking rather play chess or Risk than football, and would rather watch stock market trends than the Superbowl. In fact, my Si-ego and probably ESE mother (a lukewarm baseball fan and college softball player) cares more about sports than he does, and often wondered why he never really seemed to at all care for taking me outside to do typical sports-related father-son things like practicing batting and catching. Start a debate on where Napoleon screwed up at Waterloo, however, and he'll rant all night.

    My uncle, on the other hand, does greatly enjoy sports, specifically individual ones that he's participating in personally. He's an extreme sports junkie - even in his early 50s, he still snowboards, sky dives, jet skis, and bungee and base jumps. Skiing isn't exciting enough a challenge for him, so he's been known to jump off the lift upwards while it's still in motion for a bigger rush. It can all be boiled down to one word: adrenaline.
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    I dunno, I always picture the typical sports jock as an SLE. heh

    I think some of the most talented entertainers and athletes I've seen are SLEs

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    Just examine the meaning of those adjectives - are they not perfectly designed for sports?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guy123 View Post
    I dunno, I always picture the typical sports jock as an SLE. heh
    I used to as well, but as this thread shows there's a lot of variation.

    I think SLEs generally have good bodies though, if they get to the point where they're unfit they'll smash it until they're ok again, then leave it for a while. I get the feeling they see being overweight/unfit as a sign of weakness or poor discipline.

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    My uncle, on the other hand, does greatly enjoy sports, specifically individual ones that he's participating in personally. He's an extreme sports junkie - even in his early 50s, he still snowboards, sky dives, jet skis, and bungee and base jumps. Skiing isn't exciting enough a challenge for him, so he's been known to jump off the lift upwards while it's still in motion for a bigger rush. It can all be boiled down to one word: adrenaline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    I think SLEs generally have good bodies though, if they get to the point where they're unfit they'll smash it until they're ok again, then leave it for a while. I get the feeling they see being overweight/unfit as a sign of weakness or poor discipline.
    Yes, I know THREE middle-aged SLEs, all of whom are (or have been recently) overweight and have gone back to the gym to whip themselves back into shape. They do see it as a weakness and comment about it a lot. They love to eat though! hehe
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    My SLE cousin is very much into sports. Alot of them I know seem to be into sports, though that might be coincidental, too.

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    the Se subtype SLEs seems to be prone to hedonism

    also is it just me or do they tend to look older than their age? cuz out of the SLEs I've met so far practically all looked more mature than their real age ... or may be it's just the smoking because several of them were smokers

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    Quote Originally Posted by siuntal View Post
    the Se subtype SLEs seems to be prone to hedonism

    also is it just me or do they tend to look older than their age? cuz out of the SLEs I've met so far practically all looked more mature than their real age ... or may be it's just the smoking because several of them were smokers
    all of the ones I know are hedonistic. they try to hide it sometimes though. heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by siuntal View Post
    also is it just me or do they tend to look older than their age? cuz out of the SLEs I've met so far practically all looked more mature than their real age ... or may be it's just the smoking because several of them were smokers
    Hmm, the SLEs I know look around their age overall but they look older around the eyes, lots of crow's feet (the ones I'm talking about are all 20-30). A few of them were smokers and drinkers, but it might also be sun exposure + always forgetting to bring sunscreen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by siuntal View Post
    the Se subtype SLEs seems to be prone to hedonism

    also is it just me or do they tend to look older than their age? cuz out of the SLEs I've met so far practically all looked more mature than their real age ... or may be it's just the smoking because several of them were smokers
    My SLE looks surprisingly young for his age. He's 34 but looks around 27. I had absolutely no idea that he was almost 11 years older than me when I met him lol. I think his youthful appearance has more to do with good genes & the fact that he's never been a smoker.

    Hmm, the SLEs I know look around their age overall but they look older around the eyes, lots of crow's feet (the ones I'm talking about are all 20-30).
    I will add that his eyes seem to be relatively more aged then the rest of his features. It differs so much from the bright youthful eyes that you tend see in a lot of older IEI's. My dad is a good example of this.
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    Not type related, but more so physical ability related.

    Unless some bodybuilder guy who's usually a coward, heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    My SLE looks surprisingly young for his age. He's 34 but looks around 27. I had absolutely no idea that he was almost 11 years older than me when I met him lol. I think his youthful appearance has more to do with good genes & the fact that he's never been a smoker.

    I will add that his eyes seem to be relatively more aged then the rest of his features. It differs so much from the bright youthful eyes that you tend see in a lot of older IEI's. My dad is a good example of this.
    Lol, my bf looks 14 overall but is 40 if you just look at his eyes (he's actually 24).
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    ^Haha, it's becoming a chick thread of things I don't notice.

    Me? She's 37 but tits like a 24 year old, but what about kids in the future? She's getting on a bit, likes a drink, not good for fertility, which is of course ok depending on the type of relationship/how much I want to be around her.

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