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    I get along with everyone, so its by no far stretch that I get along with Deltas too.
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    I can definitely get along with any type.

    EIIs I tend to find a little boring, but we can always find something to laugh about and have a good time. The biggest problem with them is that you never know what's going to offend them, and then they'll either get all quiet (obviously judging you), or if you're close (or they're particularly forward) you'll be engaged in a Moral Confrontation in which they explain why what you said was Not Appropriate. That is irritating. But like I said, as long as you keep it superficial, they can actually be a whole lot of fun.

    LSEs... eh... I mean, I can get along with them. I can make them laugh and stuff. But they're just confusing in general, and while I can follow their obsessive compulsion as necessary, if it satisfies an important goal for me, I would absolutely never ever ever put up with that in my inner circle of friends/family. I would remove myself from a close relationship with a person like that pretty quickly. But again, superficially, we can get along fine, as long as I present a good amount of mask.

    IEEs I actually get along with pretty well. I don't mind them. Of all the deltas I think I like them the best. I just have to avoid certain sensitive issues, but since IEEs are more forward, it's usually easier to ascertain what the sensitive spots are. (For instance, I have a good IEE friend that I just don't talk about politics with). They're a lot of fun if you can get them gossipping about something that's in their safe zone of things to gossip about. It's even fun to let them get on their soapbox about their issue of choice, as long as you don't have strong feelings about the issue and can avoid letting them know your actual opinion.

    SLIs. They confuse me the most out of all the deltas. I'm pretty sure I like them, but I'm never sure if they like me (I think that's reciprocal). They're usually dependable and fun, and often funny if you get them out of their shell. I'm just never sure about them, and that makes me nervous. But I really admire their dependability, at least all the ones I know. I don't think I've ever met a flakey SLI (perhaps they exist?). So yeah. This is usually a relationship of mutual appreciation in which neither party is secure enough in the appreciation to really grow all that close. Also I usually don't have any interest in being best friends with an SLI. I just sort of like them if they're around, and I really feel in their debt when they help me out. But I wouldn't go seek one out, to be honest.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliza View Post
    It's funny when I discovered socionics I mistyped myself as an IEE because I was thinking in MBTI terms, and when I read LSE was my dual I knew something was completely offfff.
    LSEs and IEEs aren't duals.

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    I love deltas. I'm thinking about retyping LSE. New day, new me. I feel like donning a wifebeater, voting Republican, getting drunk, and reaming some Beta ST's ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stray View Post
    I love deltas. I'm thinking about retyping LSE. New day, new me. I feel like donning a wifebeater, voting Republican, getting drunk, and reaming some Beta ST's ass.
    oh, you.

    i feel like this probably should have gotten old by now but it hasnt for me.

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    I'm pretty good with Deltas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Trevor View Post
    I'm pretty good with Deltas.
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    also: ditto

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    One of my closest friends is EII as well. We have our misunderstandings, but at the same time both of us can manage to arrive at exactly same insights, which is surprising given how different we are. With IEEs I get along with Ne subtypes better than Fi-IEEs. With LSEs I tend to have most conflict with Si-LSEs because they seem to be the more preoccupied with stability and 'normalcy' than Te-LSEs, who seem more easy-going and open-minded to me. They are also more given into making jokes in conversation to diffuse potentially uncomfortable situations. So I get along with Te-LSEs better. With SLIs - the Te-subtype. There seems to be this awkward process of trying to get to know and impress one another that doesn't culminate in any positive results.
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    I get along okay, it's hit and miss. I do get tension with SLI some times but it's minor and I usually forget about any pet peeves they may inflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliza View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by siuntal View Post
    With SLIs prolly the Si-subtype. There seems to be this awkward process of trying to get to know and impress one another that doesn't culminate in any positive results.
    I know exactly what you mean.
    THIS exactly.

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    I get along reasonably well with Delta NFs. I don't get along with Delta STs.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    male ENFps are usually one-sided annoyed at me. Like they're pissed at me for something, but I tend not to have an issue with them. Me and female ENFps get along okay. Sometimes great, even.

    ESTj, the stereotypical 'workaholic' director type of the socion. Conservative values, work hard, all they talk about stuff I'm not too interested in. Natural clash.

    ISTp. I get along with them okay but they tend to be suspicious of me. I probably also 'hurt their delta feelings.'

    INFj, I can get along with them okay and connect on the fact that we both share the same sort of social timidty and shared sentimentality. But here's the thing. They tend to be spiritual and religious and I'm just not, and so we clash on that aspect. They're also kind of...housewife-ish or something in that conservative way that I'm not really, although we both tend to be homebodies.

    They also are offended and aghast by my 'throat fuck humor' usually I've noticed.

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    I get along with Deltas very well actually.One of my best friends is an SLI, but I think it has to do with the fact that we are both E4's. I had a close friend for a # of years that was an IEE and we were practically inseparable. And the one guy who I think I was in love with was a definite LSE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcheeba View Post
    I get along with Deltas very well actually.One of my best friends is an SLI [...] And the one guy who I think I was in love with was a definite LSE.
    You didn't think they were boring? Mundane? Excessively obsessed with petty, inane details?

    What's your interaction with Delta STs like, exactly?
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Excessively obsessed with petty, inane details?
    ISTj-ENFp 5w6sp/so-3w4sx/sp-8w9so/sx ESTP sLoEN dramatic

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    Petty inane details like whether there's a microscopic stain in the bathroom, or whether the lawn's mowed all right, or whether the food has a trace of MSG...
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    oh ya i forgot all deltas are concerned with stuff like that i should have remembered we all have spotless bathrooms carry on

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    btw that profile sounds... quite sexy.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    lmfao. you're exasperating but impossible for me to dislike. be alpha already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laghlagh View Post
    ... we all have spotless bathrooms ...
    haha, damn i must have mis-typed myself, delta is where I really belong

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    I don't know an Istp who i am not really good friends with. I think the VS cognitive style might have alot to do with it, because i find that we process information similarly. As an infp, ill notice that i lose people as im explaining things because they dont know all the "generalities" and shit that i can make sense of. But Istp's i don't have to stop and explain things to. They get it. All Istp's i've met have had a really good relationship with me. The Pokemon metaphor's are appreciated and everyone laughs merrily.

    My mother is an Infj, and i get along with them swimminglyas a group. In very much a respect kind of way, i find them totally capable of setting my priorities straight. Infj's as a whole, i think they're strong people. Very strong.

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    LSE - one of my friends from small times (second grade or so) is LSE and an all around awesome dude, and when we get together, the humor that happens is unreal I know another LSE who plays guitar, we can understand each other a good deal, though he's much rootsier aesthetically than I am (blues, blues, and more blues, and he can differentiate between different varieties of blues - he's really done his research); another LSE is my neighbor, really loves his lawn, trees, lawnmowers, has been making mulch in the yard and caring for the soil for years - they all dislike incompetence on a practical level, can spot it, and get a bit amused when they see it in action and pissed when they can't correct it (or fix the root of the issue) due to external factors, which I can totally understand

    EII - a cousin of mine is EII, we've got a lot of the same values, but what happens lots is she tries to "shush" me, which of course makes me start roaring that much louder and then, of course, I make a remark about quietness being a horrible thing, and do so loudly don't know a lot of other EIIs yet, I hope I don't drive them off, they seem like pretty awesome people

    IEE - I keep making music with IEEs! and they keep ending up on guitar... anyways, they seem like they have loads and loads of ideas, but the ideas never get committed to as concretely as I'd like to see happen, then they get "bored", which is apparently an impediment to getting things done on a practical level... really friendly, wonderful people to be around, about the nicest people out there too, always want to give them hugs, or when that doesn't work, food...

    SLI - I make music with an SLI, I work with one, and a friend of mine's dad is one nothing relaxes a place quite like an SLI, I'm not sure what to say about them because they're pretty quiet - not in a "shy" or "nervous" way, but more of an "I'm doing things right now" kinda way... great to work with, the ones I know have my back if anything needs done, and they're really good at working with anything physical or mechanical in particular; my friend's dad has tons of snowblowers and machines in the garage, they always get fixed up right and I got an amazing snowblower from him for a very thoughtful price
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    Only going to talk about the ones I've personally known well and over a length of time.

    I get along well with ISTps, but conversation is totally dead. We have nothing to say to each other. They're great for doing outdoor sport type stuff with, or working on mechanical/physical projects.

    ESTjs talk too much and are always trying to teach someone something. Some are fun anyways, interesting and tell great stories, others are just boring in every way.

    INFjs make loyal friends, but I feel observed and judged around them after awhile, like I have to watch myself and my behavior. They like me and like my dependability, and we always get along really well at first, but notice over time how much our values diverge.

    ENFps are flakey. They promise much and deliver little. I have never been able to count on them for anything. They can be fun to hang out with if I run into them randomly, and they're great for unplanned adventures, but that's it.

    I've never had a true open conflict with any delta I've known. My best fights are reserved for the other quadras lol. I believe that there is no such thing as people who actually know each other well that get along perfectly. If it's always smooth sailing with no irritation or misunderstandings between you and someone else, one of you is lying (being fake) or you don't know each other that well yet. There's no reason for me to really conflict with deltas because I don't let them get that close (with the exception of INFjs who have been some of my better friends, and any delta family members)

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    How do you get along with deltas?
    Splendid.

    Quote Originally Posted by laghlagh View Post
    ISTj-ENFp 5w6sp/so-3w4sx/sp-8w9so/sx ESTP sLoEN dramatic
    EIE-SEI, ESTJ, Teacher (Idyllic), SLue|I|, Sanguine-Melancholy Oldham: Dramatic > Inventive > Leisurely > Exuberant Insipid Eccentric/Schizotypal - Amorous Confident/Narcissistic Sage, True Neutral, Type III Anti-Hero Trifix: 4w3 > 6w7 > 9w8 so/sp Reactionary Nutjob

    I like the ending much.

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    Edited my previous post because I mixed up IEE's and EII's.

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    I wish I knew more EII who were not afraid of people as objects and didn't act restrained because of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laghlagh View Post
    lmfao. you're exasperating but impossible for me to dislike. be alpha already.
    No.

    Oh, and on second thought I'd make one slight adjustment to that type profile: SLOEI rather than SLOEN. I find it almost impossible to get along with non-curious people, regardless of type.
    Last edited by Aleksei; 07-05-2011 at 06:08 PM.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I wish I knew more EII who were not afraid of people as objects and didn't act restrained because of this.
    Ye, your whole history on here is proof of that, you're especially afraid of phallic objects.

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    LSEs - I was best friends with one when I was younger, we don't speak anymore. It fucked me up somewhat, maybe I fucked her up too? Idk. I find her approach to life bizarre. I instinctively know not to interact with LSEs more than superficially, and then I learnt socionics so I know to keep it that way, and everything goes smoothly.

    They're quite useful to have on your team actually. I worked next to an LSE for two years and I thought a lot of the things she did made no sense (e.g. if she was doing something, she'd just use the generally accepted best procedure for it, without considering whether it would logically work in that particular situation). But if someone from another group used our group's resources destructively, she'd give them a hiding and report it to the supervisor and everything, without worrying if people would dislike her. We also never ran out of anything when she was in charge.

    IEEs - I find them kind of flaky and self-centred. I think my sister might be one. They're pretty fun to talk to, but I find them unreliable in ways which are important to me. Also I'll be talking to them, then bam! Suddenly I'm weird/inappropriate.

    EIIs - The ones are know aren't very bright and are pretty boring and slow, in a slow-and-steady turtle kind of way, any attempts at injecting energy into the conversation by me tend to fall flat. Maybe one day I'll meet a smarter one and we'll get along swimmingly!

    Quote Originally Posted by eliza View Post
    SLI - I find them very inaccessabl, I have no idea what they are thinking, it hard to trust them for some reason and I get the feeling they are suspicious of me.
    That's pretty much how I feel with SLIs - one day they're moderately friendly to me, the next day they act like I've mortally offended them. I work with one and people (well, ESEs and betas) tells me he's dead in the eyes and a clear psychopath, but I don't really see it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clumsy View Post
    I've noticed with two of my EII friends that we both sort of talk past each other at times, disregarding where the other person wants to take the conversation.
    I get this with all deltas.

    Quote Originally Posted by eliza View Post
    I wonder how an IEI hit LSE's vulnerable Ni?
    I've only had a close friendship with one so I'm not very confident on this, but one of the ways I think might be that we try to steer the conversation in ways they don't understand. Also they're suspicious of why we're so uncertain and tardy about making decisions, and when we take shortcuts that pay off, they think it's unfair.

    Quote Originally Posted by stray View Post
    I love deltas. I'm thinking about retyping LSE. New day, new me. I feel like donning a wifebeater, voting Republican, getting drunk, and reaming some Beta ST's ass.
    Can I watch?
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    Nobody here...besides me, seems to know what SLE is except for maybe Maritsa.

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    Yeah, LSE don't change much and they don't change how they do things that have worked for them, this is why they fall back to routine and don't change their dress style much once a practical solution's been reached.

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    I don't really know many Deltas at all... I seem to be a Beta and Gamma magnet.

    The Deltas that I DO know are Moredhel (LSE) and an SLI.

    Moredhel- He's basically my best friend. We tell each other everything and spend hours gossiping with each other (he's boring so I'm usually the one with the gossip---- I kid, I kid....). We seem to get on best when its just the two of us together or maybe one other person... otherwise we're not so chatty.

    We often use eachother as a sense checker, trying to get perspective from the other side of the fense....

    He also often looks after me when I'm upset... bringing me food and making me comfortable... no matter how much I squirm and get embarressed he's always been there for me. AND he gets my subway order right

    He has described me as his bizarro twin from a parallel universe.

    SLI friend - He and I don't have a very close friendship at all, yet we seem to gravitate towards eachother when we need a sensibility check. We seem to have a very serious friendship, in fact there isn't usually a lot of laughter which is unusual for me. I do appreciate him a lot and I find his stability makes me feel safe, which makes up for him being incredibly boring... heh.

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