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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Fe types are too demonstrative emotional, what makes them overdramatic in my taste.
    Many times they are not ACTUALLY emotional, only showing the image of something, such as expressed surprise : O . In that instance they are not actually surprised, just giving the cues for surprise. I could say the same of a LSE who is being over dramatic about some small work detail that is a HUGE ISSUE.

    Also they try to manipulate your emotional state, while Te types often see their emotions as annoying.
    Using the word manipulate in conjunction with the term "Fe" is also annoying. Any IE is used to manipulate. Since we are on the topic, how about manipulating someone to do the task your way because it really is the RIGHT way to do it... again, I'm not understanding why Fe types have annoying emotions, as if that is the only facet of their personality. How is their reactions any different from let's say a SLIs when you use their towel..? Te and Fe are not opposing information elements, they can and do go hand in hand.

    Also they lesser care what you'd like
    Not true at all.

    and sometimes are senselessly not polite.
    I'd have to know in what context because politeness is case dependent. Perhaps being polite is not the appropriate reaction. Although, I'm hard pressed to think of an instance where the ESE I know, or the SEIs that I know, were not polite.

    S types among them don't distinguish your emotions, like between when you are calm or sad
    Calm and sad seem like EXACTLY the kinds of feeling states Si-Fe types would notice, but okay. If you are meaning to discuss how someone is REALLY feeling, their inner sentiments, then yes, Si-Fe types may fall short. Not Ni-Fe types, however.

    , - so by trying to do better they do worse
    Possibly. Their producing functions might not be adequate enough for what you are needing, sure.

    ; same hurt they do when you feel bad indeed while they press you additionally by weird emotionality.
    As a pure logical type I can understand how this would be a struggle for you to navigate.

    I want more base Fi near. To heal my psychic traumas caused by Fe-s.
    I hope you heal your traumas. : D

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Many times they are not ACTUALLY emotional, only showing the image of something
    Jung's types are about dominating info in the consciousness. Hence, all F types are emotional.
    When they manipulate, they may try to show the higher degree of emotions. To do this they make own emotions higher, as need to be natural for better efficiency.
    If you call F types as "are not ACTUALLY emotional", then you reject the core of the typology. While heresies are out of my interest.

    > I hope you heal your traumas. : D

    I hope a girl with good IR will do this.

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    [0:50] - ESI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Fi types are not emotionally cold. They express emotions in other way than Fe, with lesser of bells and whistles.
    The problem of family could be bad or formalized emotional contact with him and between relatives because of lesser friendly relations. In such case people either set on negative and more quarrel or stay indifferent, also they minimize the communication to reduce the negative. Generally, people may find the relations outside of family to compensate this.

    Sure let's blame it on his parents being conflictors. Let me clarify. He was an only child and his parents really disliked each other. You could feel the tension in the room even if they didn't say anything. The first time I saw them interact openly bitter toward each other I told him if he ever spoke to me the way his parents spoke to each other it would be over, no more chances. He never spoke to me in a harsh way again because I saw the potential for us to fall into that dynamic. It was what he grew up seeing. We fought ourselves quite a bit in the beginning because he was very jealous of me being friendly toward other guys. Even though I wasn't doing anything wrong. His parent didn't fight loudly but their words still cut deep. They were just mean to each other in my mind. My family might have had loud arguments but we always made up and resolved any tension. Their way of fighting was foreign to me at the time. I was still very young.

    There was no warmth in the family although his mom was probably the closest person to him before me. She always nurtured his talents and allowed him to be himself but his dad did not like it and thought she made him weak. He was not weak and he was not a mamma'ss boy. He had a pretty good relationship with his mom and no relationship with his dad. When I joined the family I kind of brought them all together. I would talk to the dad when we went out to dinner while they discussed topics which I would rather have discussed with them. I just felt bad for the dad because they didn't listen to him at all so I would ask him questions about his interests which he loved telling me about.

    I was the only girlfriend my ex brought home that his dad liked, ever. His mom liked me as well. She and I became very close and I thought of her as my mother. She was a very spiritual and open minded person. The family was not close (like mine) but I brought them closer. I was the bridge. He and his parents started hugging after I introduced it into the dynamic. In my family we hug hello and goodbye. We also say "I love you" when we part, just in case it is our last words. I brought all that into the family. I was not dramatic or over emotional about it. I just did it and they were all open to me. It felt natural to do so and because of it his parents loved me almost as much as he did. His mom kept me in her will even after I broke up with her son. He (my ex) also kept me in his will even though he had a new girlfriend when he died. He didn't want his new gf to get anything. She was not happy about that.

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    Default LIE Sx/So, likely 1Te subtype



    That guy is an obvious (conservative) LIE-Te Sx/So.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post


    That guy is an obvious (conservative) LIE Sx/So.
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    Yup, big favorite I'd get along with even if our political alignments are completely different. Tritype Scholar or Justice Fighter, something like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Yup, big favorite I'd get along with even if our political alignments are completely different. Tritype Scholar or Justice Fighter, something like that?
    I think he's the Task Master tritype, actually. 136.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    I think he's the Task Master tritype, actually. 136.
    I can see it Would wing at 2 if core 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    I can see it Would wing at 2 if core 1.
    Yes, I think so.

    He's like the extroverted version of Jordan Peterson.
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    i believe the exact opposite essentially

    don't think he's gamma
    don't think hes intuitive
    don't think hes logical
    think enneagram is stoopid when it comes to explaining type, because it leads exactly to these assbackwards conclusions
    think he has very little in common with peterson, he seems more like a press secretary along the lines of spicer or huckabee sanders, except with more Fe

    his entire schtick is to go around and parrot talking points in public forums where he holds public executions to rally the cause
    my best guess is ESE

    of course you'd have to actually have a good understanding of the issues in order to discern why hes so shallow so I can see on the surface he looks like a "smart guy" i.e. logical intuitive. but its all a charade

    hint: turn off the sound and watch him. he's definitely got strong Se

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    Yuliya Mihalchik - ISFJ

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    Autism is easy trash bin label. If you have brain problems that relates to neurology but nothing clear: extremely easy answer. Strictly psychological autism that is a different thing who are usually "ethically inclined as default".

    Self awareness etc are not really related to it as as your neurology can be screwed up in multiple ways.


    Why they talk about spectrum. Well, high variability of symptoms.


    [Btw if there was something like autistic logic many IEI's would win in that category with no competition. Reference made in terms of functionally lowered]
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    Lev Tolstoy - ISFJ

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    They are very similar in mannerisms.

    Karen Straughan - Fi-SEE 6w5 so/sx


    Donovan Worland - Gamma SF 6w5 so/sx




    Maajid Nawaz - ESI-Se @21:30 he even acknowledges his weakness in Ni at 26:50: "I have failed to contextualize history."

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    Georgia Toffolo (Toff) - Se-ESFp 2w1




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    Alicia Atout (AMusicBlogYea) - ENTJ

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    Pamela Colman Smith - INTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post

    @Nebula thoughts?
    Well, I am quite hesitant to type people, including myself, but I will say that ILI seems fitting.

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    uh no

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    Harris shows some conscious for example with stress ball while he is still plugged in dynamic process. Also logical person. ILI.
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    there's no way Harris subscribes to normative ethics, he either utilizes exceptions or is just straight up inadequate. He also clearly values Ti if you actually get down to what he's really trying to say. I hate the term but he shows strong signs of Ti HA, he has a kind of blind faith in a simplistic view of Ti that he worships on the same level posters like singularity exhibit, like totally naive trust without even comprehending the clear limitations of his own thought; limitations that are self evident to others. He's also aristocratic to the core

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    Well, ILI has conscious . I think other side is more visible in his interviews where it seems to have some sort of influence that is not tied to logical outcome based thinking.
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    static vs dynamic

    Rogan talks about while does not value it. Harris thinks in dynamically and some of it leads to described expressions.
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    yeah but what enneagram is he

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    yeah but what enneagram is he
    rogan or harris?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    static vs dynamic

    Rogan talks about while does not value it. Harris thinks in dynamically and some of it leads to described expressions.
    Harris is reminding me of Hitchens here, yet a very, very chilled hitchens....Hitchens Lite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Alicia Atout (AMusicBlogYea) - ENTJ
    She seems like one of the lizard people.

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    Courtney Love - ISFJ

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    Courtney love is isfj and I seem not nice enough to be a feeler?? Haha

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    Evgeniy Ponasenkov - ESFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    Courtney love is isfj and I seem not nice enough to be a feeler?? Haha
    You seem nice for T types. But not for Fi ones.

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    John Burk - Te-LIE e1 sx/sp




    he's kind of similar to Elliott Hulse, another Te-LIE in the enneagram competence triad




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    those guys are SEE as fuck

    also that first vid is total lack of intuition of time. the reason e7s can be fat as fuck is cause they did their time, the same standard applies to privates. its not a double standard he just collapsed the time axis

    a private has no real skillset, he's just a body. if they can't pass a pt test what the fuck are they good for. e7s have a ridiculous amount of technical experience built up. this guy is just a douche trying to jump the hierarchy via some shitty ethical reasoning. LIE doesn't care about breaking a bunch of privates off anyway

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    Lol. That first guy is ranting.

    I find myself doing that every once in a while, but as soon as I realize it, I stop and apologize to my listeners. Ranting is a poor strategy for change.

    Also, he's complaining about poor leadership when he should be setting an example. But maybe that's e1 vs e8.

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    here's how you can tell (unhealthy) Se egos in action: they create a sense of urgency with their demeanor and then proceed to "deliberate" over a topic in such a way that would benefit from reflection and nuanced analysis, but which they just intentionally made impossible by directly influencing the dynamic. its sort of retarded though because the whole point of that mode of thinking is it only functions productively when there are no reasonable alternatives, and is clearly inferior once one has time to slow down and reflect. thus when you intentionally escalate you might get your way by removing the ability of everyone to think deeply, but at the same time you ensure the outcome is less than ideal inasmuch as such a move was totally unnecessary; you just lead to essentially cheating yourself of alternatives that might be better. you basically deal with chaos by choosing the worst option by default and running with it. its the worst kind of leadership there is if you can at all avoid it because it just sells everyone short. its a "congratulations, you played yourself" kind of dynamic that if they just stopped for one second they might comprehend (inferior Ni)

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