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    I'm convinced the author Philip Roth is ILI. I just got done reading American Pastoral for my American Lit class and and the narrator sounds like an Ni dom and anytime the narrator seems to make a major point through a character it sounds like an ILI. Plus he is known to paint with broad strokes in his novels and I think he has a reputation of being rude/ a bit not careful with his words in real life.




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    Alex Garland - ILI-Ni sp/sx - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvH-5rBEsgs (his interviewer seems EII)

    The script for Ex Machina was very Te/Fi in nature and with many demos on irrationality.




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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Alex Garland - ILI-Ni sp/sx - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvH-5rBEsgs (his interviewer seems EII)

    The script for Ex Machina was very Te/Fi in nature and with many demos on irrationality.
    Ah, that's cool. I'm a big fan of this movie and sort of thought it might have been made by a gamma, but I wasn't sure. I thought Domnhall Gleeson's character seemed like an INTj and Oscar Isaac's character seemed more like an xNTp.

    It's interesting seeing Garland in this interview (not that I've ever seen him anywhere else). I think he is most likely INTp, but, what's interesting to me, is how much he reminds me of my cousin-in-law (a totally miserable prick), at least on the level of his general energy, attitude, and facial expressions/tone. I had thought my cousin-in-law might be INTp but we have so many differences that it was hard for me to put him in that camp. At one point in the interview, the interviewer says "well, it's your film." and Garland quickly retorts, "It's a collective effort." That's totally something my cousin would be a stickler about and something I wouldn't care about at all. The reason I picked up on that is that sort of sensitivity is something that runs deep in my cousin and so displays itself in a much wider breadth of issues. I can't help but feel it's type or subtype related, but I just don't share the sentiment, so I feel like it gives an interesting idea of the differences between types and what they might be sensitive towards.

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    Lauren Cohan ESI (could be LSI)


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    David Carradine...

    Aristotle Onassis (LIE-Ni 8w7 sp/so)



    Anthony Quinn (LIE-Ni 8w9 sp/sx)



    Nicholas Von Hoogstraten (LIE-Ni 7w8 sp/sx)



    Kirk Douglas (LIE-Ni 8w7 sx/so)



    David Carradine (LIE-Ni 9w8 sp/sx)

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    Alisa Antonova - ENTJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Kirk Douglas (LIE-Ni 8w7 sx/so)

    Looks more EIE to me.

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    Lucky Luciano (LIE-Te)



    Al Baghdadi (LIE-Te)



    Anwar Sadat (LIE-Te)


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    NT, Wright, Peter Thiel, Ross Douthat-- I think all 3 of these guys are likely ILIs with NT wright being the most likely. Peter could be LIE, but I think he is a bit too abstract and nervous and whatever other traits i'd thrown on an intuitive introvert.


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    Anwar Sadat (LIE-Te)



    Saddam Hussein (LIE-Te)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglas View Post
    same stacking?
    same nose.

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    Steven Van Zandt (SEE-Se)



    Soulja Boy (SEE-Se)



    Flava Flav (SEE-Se)


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    Saddam Hussein - ISTJ

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    Carlo Ancelotti (ILI-Te)








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    Anastasiya Bragina - ISFJ

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    George Carlin (ESI-Se)



    Phil Anselmo (ESI-Se)



    Josh Homme (ESI-Se)



    Eminem (ESI-Se)



    Dana White (ESI-Se)



    Jason Alexander (ESI-Se)



    Clint Eastwood (ESI-Se)



    Lee Van Cleef (ESI-Se)



    Frida Kahlo (ESI-Se)


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    And the other subtype of ESI...

    Sting (ESI-Fi)



    Amy Lee (ESI-Fi)



    Aubrey Plaza (ESI-Fi)



    Kristen Stewart (ESI-Fi)



    Roman Polanski (ESI-Fi)



    Kevin Bacon (ESI-Fi)



    Robert De Niro (ESI-Fi)


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    Annie Duke (ESI-Fi)



    Michelle Pfeiffer (ESI-Fi)



    Jodi Foster (ESI-Fi)

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    Alfred Hitchcock (ILI-Ni)



    Tim Burton (ILI-Ni)



    Jeffrey Dahmer (ILI-Ni)



    Issei Sagawa (ILI-Ni)



    Peter Bogdonavich (ILI-Ni)

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    Zoe Kravitz - ISFj so/sx


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    Ken Wilber, Adam Savage...

    Alfred Hitchcock (ILI-Ni)



    Tim Burton (ILI-Ni)



    Jeffrey Dahmer (ILI-Ni)



    Issei Sagawa (ILI-Ni)



    Peter Bogdonavich (ILI-Ni)



    Ken Wilber (ILI-Ni)



    Adam Savage (ILI-Ni)

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    David Lynch...

    Sting (ESI-Fi)



    Amy Lee (ESI-Fi)



    Aubrey Plaza (ESI-Fi)



    Kristen Stewart (ESI-Fi)



    Roman Polanski (ESI-Fi)



    Kevin Bacon (ESI-Fi)



    Robert De Niro (ESI-Fi)



    David Lynch (ESI-Fi)


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    Jean Claude Van Damme (SEE-Se)



    Elton John (SEE-Se)



    Hodgetwins (SEE-Se)



    Alexyss K Tylor (SEE-Se)



    Flava Flav (SEE-Se)



    Soulja Boy (SEE-Se)



    Will Smith (SEE-Se)



    Wesley Snipes (SEE-Se)



    Eddie Murphy (SEE-Se)



    Steven Van Zandt (SEE-Se)



    Sylvester Stallone (SEE-Se)

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    LL Cool J (SEE-Fi)



    Miley Cyrus (SEE-Fi)



    Gwen Stefani (SEE-Fi)



    Jenna Jameson (SEE-Fi)



    Christopher Reeve (SEE-Fi)



    Traci Lords (SEE-Fi)



    Britney Spears (SEE-Fi)



    Pam Anderson (SEE-Fi)



    Anna Nicole Smith (SEE-Fi)


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    Alexander Armstrong (Alex Armstrong) and Ben Miller



    I think LIE for Armstrong, and I'm less certain about Miller, but ESI could make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post

    Adam Savage (ILI-Ni)

    This one is so wrong, it hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Jeffrey Dahmer (ILI-Ni)



    Issei Sagawa (ILI-Ni)


    Lmao. Didn't know ILI was such a popular typing for cannibals and serial killers.


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    Kate Akhurst (Kate Boy) - ILI-Te sx/sp (e6?)







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    Quote Originally Posted by Contra View Post
    This one is so wrong, it hurts.
    I'm just curious as to why you think so. Adam Savage is a skeptic, which overlaps quite nicely with NT traits. Even if he wasn't specifically INTp, it is very likely that he is NT, which wouldn't make the type too far off.


    **added: Keep in mind I take a very skeptical approach to typology. I find each type to be quite broad, so broad in definition that two individuals may not look that they are the same type even if they can be justifiably categorized as such. I wonder if you and others look at another individual and find that you can't relate and conclude that they can't be the same type as you. Just curious.
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    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    I like Adam Savage, I'm pretty sure he's LII but hey, that's the Quasi-Identical for me, so I get the mistype. Even so, great dude. I got an LII relative. Love him to death, he's awesome, but, well, I know in the end that I'm going with my , which he does praise to his credit. He calls me crazy, but in an affectionate way . He's confused on how my theories can encompass so many things, how I can connect dots that he sees as so far apart as to make it insane in his eyes but he still admits that when I call it, I fucking CALLED it. It's also a good thing that I don't have to interact much with his ESE wife, she's family and I love her, but I also know that if we lived in close proximity for an extended period I'd launch into an ideological berserker rage with her on a regular basis which would seriously hurt my friendship with my quasi-identical bro.

    I wonder if that's how it is for conflictor relations. That feeling that, if it all came down to brass tacks, that you'd launch into a death battle. The quadra warfare manifesting itself in full force in a duel to the death to determine the future... I'd hope that isn't the case but, well, fucking shit ESE's are so clueless! polr vs polr... The prime function of one being the major strength of the other with the other functions not quite matching up... I guess they don't call it conflict without a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    I like Adam Savage, I'm pretty sure he's LII but hey, that's the Quasi-Identical for me, so I get the mistype. Even so, great dude. I got an LII relative. Love him to death, he's awesome, but, well, I know in the end that I'm going with my , which he does praise to his credit. He calls me crazy, but in an affectionate way . He's confused on how my theories can encompass so many things, how I can connect dots that he sees as so far apart as to make it insane in his eyes but he still admits that when I call it, I fucking CALLED it. It's also a good thing that I don't have to interact much with his ESE wife, she's family and I love her, but I also know that if we lived in close proximity for an extended period I'd launch into an ideological berserker rage with her on a regular basis which would seriously hurt my friendship with my quasi-identical bro.



    I wonder if that's how it is for conflictor relations. That feeling that, if it all came down to brass tacks, that you'd launch into a death battle. The quadra warfare manifesting itself in full force in a duel to the death to determine the future... I'd hope that isn't the case but, well, fucking shit ESE's are so clueless! polr vs polr... The prime function of one being the major strength of the other with the other functions not quite matching up... I guess they don't call it conflict without a reason.
    I think one ought to be careful in their type justifications. Does Adam Savage not connect dots? I'm sure you wouldn't say that he does not connect them. Do you think his dot connecting is somehow different from yours? How do you know this? Where does your evidence lie? One could connect the dots to conclude that A causes B, but one could also connect dots that there is no such connection, that there may be a correlation not causation. Usually, the latter is supported with evidence and experimentation. Intuition is great for making connections, discerning patterns, creating ideas, and creativity in general, but it is not a very accurate means of discerning causation, which is something scientists understand very well. Scientists and skeptics make use of both logic and evidence to form conclusions.

    Perhaps he appears to be a Ti user because of his mastery of logic, but are you implying that ILIs cannot master logic? Reading the type descriptions of both, it is not hard to even imagine that an NiTe user could master Ti and a TiNe user could master Te, making them indistinguishable from one another, and that's ok. It's alright to not know when there isn't a clear answer. That is the limit of the theory.

    I can't help observing that the process of typology is one that fits the data to the theory. Everyone seems to focus on particular bits of information about a person and make extrapolations based on those bits, while someone else will focus on other bits and make a different conclusion. These bits are likely a mere fraction of what is really going on below the surface. Language also makes typology horribly elusive.

    I think typing by dichotomies, while having its own limitations, describes people much better than trying to conclude what is going on inside their head when one isn't given exclusive access.
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Adam Savage's whole stick is his Fe ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Adam Savage's whole stick is his Fe ha.
    I'm not sure what you mean by this. Would you care to elaborate? I don't know if you are saying he values Fe>Fi, or that you think Fe is his base or creative function.
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Nikolay (socioneru) - INTP
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    Vadim (socioneru) - ISFJ


    Igor (socioneru) - ENTJ


    Anna (socioneru) [on right] - INTP
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Valeriy Kipelov - ISFJ

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    James Veitch - typing revised to EII-Ne


    Hayley Quinn - SEE-Fi sx-first



    Amy Webb - SEE-Fi sp/so



    SEE channel?

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    Hayley Quinnn - mb ENTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    James Veitch - ILI-Te (so/sx?)



    Hayley Quinn - SEE-Fi sx-first



    Amy Webb - SEE-Fi sp/so



    SEE channel?

    Amy Webb seems to be some "T" type, owing to her low emotional awareness as opposed to her IQ. The over emphasis on numbers seems firmly ET.

    I find Amy Webb incredibly obnoxious, don't know why. Perhaps her dry in your face persona.
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