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    It's over.
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    I'm remembering when she said I was more IEE than she was. Wow. And no, I don't know what type she is. She's pretty spastic, though.

    I don't know what type you are, either. The whole "FOCUS!" bit was pretty amusing, though.
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    ILI / EIE perhaps.
    Idk if that's the greatest vid to type from, but it was amusing none the less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    What was so amusing about it?
    The dynamic was just funny. Idk how to to describe it. She was just being odd and not taking you srsly as you tried to get her to focus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    What type of video would be better for typing?

    Someone asking questions in the background and my body in full view so you can see my mannerisms/gestures while I answer them?
    The best videos are ones that are most natural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    The dynamic was just funny. Idk how to to describe it. She was just being odd and not taking you srsly as you tried to get her to focus.
    Illusionary partners looks funny to people watching. It said that in Renin download able book that was available here a while back, and I do think so in looking at real life interaction. his sister IEE and him ILI.

    That dynamic "funny"-ness is like how this video shows.
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    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    The My leading function (which shows damn well in public interactions) is your Ignoring function. So it gives the other partner to not take each other serious kinda mocking each other. and on occasion,the conversation clicks through the Creative/HA so it's doesn't look like contrary, where in contrary relationship, each side will fight and show their own strongest point, sort of like what socionics.com description say on contrary relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Cool video!

    I could tell the both of you were trying to get a conversation going, though it wasn't quite connecting, and each person was kinda going at the other person

    I suspected you of being ILI, her of being IEE, and the Illusionary type relationship pretty much seals the deal on that one for me

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    Nothing so far goes against ILI. My guess for your sister would have been IEE based solely on that video, even if you didn't mention it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
    Nothing so far goes against ILI. My guess for your sister would have been IEE based solely on that video. I watched it before I read the OP and thought IEE.
    You will have good dynamic with his sister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi
    What about IEI for me?
    You've got a blunt, direct, semi-focused cut-and-dryness to you I'd think a little more than , but...

    Is there something in you that'd kinda like to identify IEI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    What about IEI for me?
    I'm not picking up much (if any) from you at all in that video, Mr. Dual and there's no way I can put you in Beta either...

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    lol you guys are totally freakin adorable.

    everytime i see you on video i start leaning ILI again. your sister acts hyper in a similar way that i act hyper (except with 100 times more energy).

    also, i have no life.

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    i had to think about that. i guess...nah, not really.

    i guess the difference is in that on video i can see the genuineness of your emotional output (or maybe genuineness isn't the right word for the sake of unbiasedness or something but more like its easier to feel you or sth). but in text i wonder more about your motivations, how much you're probing for reaction or putting emotion out for the purpose of stirring shit up.

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    I also say ILI for you, Jinxi. You are not emotive at all, you seem to be operating from a standpoint of logic, and you have a really grounded quality here, maybe more apparent because of the contrast to your sister, but still ... I noticed that in your other videos, too. Those things fit with ILI to me. (Seeing you as an Ni-ego introvert is something I'm taking for granted after previous threads.) I don't see you as a crazedrat clone, btw. Some points in common in your text-based online personas, but not enough to qualify as clones.

    I think ENFp could work for your sister. And she would drive me bananas (désolée, soeur de Jinxi, c'ést juste la vérité). She doesn't come across as having IJ or EJ temperament, seems ethical and infantile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    Why not? Some people believe I'm a crazedrat clone. Of course, I have shorter telomeres = Genetically enhanced human with shorter lifespans .
    As defined by the Wikisocion:

    " is generally associated with the ability to recognize and convey (i.e. make others experience) passions, moods, and emotional states, generate excitement, liveliness, and feelings, get emotionally involved in activities and emotionally involve others, recognize and describe emotional interaction between people and groups, and build a sense of community and emotional unity."

    Your voice is a lot more calm and steady, and your style of speaking is a lot more direct, than what I get from IEIs in general... also, starting at 2:16, I can notice a lot of frustration out of you, and almost all of it's a type of thing (especially the "you're ridiculing French people part", and presented in the way you did - I've done that kinda thing too ), and much of it's about the answers being unproductive - all of which makes me go Gamma > Beta and ILI > IEI

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    After watching that video, I'm pretty strongly in the ILI camp for Jinxi. IEE seems like a good match for his sister.

    Looking back, I'm pretty sure my reasons for initially leaning IEI for Jinxi were shitty ones. I've since grown increasingly partial to seeing him as ILI and the video pretty well solidifies that impression.

    I know you think I'm IEI Jinxi, but for what it's worth I feel I relate to you like an identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    Why identical?

    We could both be IEIs.
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    why IEE for his sister?

    Personally I couldn't see an IEE responding that way to someone who genuinely wanted a serious discussion. And, not to say that all IEEs will find interest in socionics, but if there were a type that was more inclined to take an interest in socionics, I'd think it would be IEE. At the least, I would think they would take an interest in self-analysis or psychological-analysis. IEEs can be odd, but I couldn't see them blatantly ignoring someone who wants to discuss something for the sake of being odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    She seems more ILE-Ne to me, tbqh. I really don't see IEE at all.

    As for Jinxi...dunno. ILI could work. I don't have a strong opinion based off the vid.
    ILE > IEE for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    She seems more ILE-Ne to me, tbqh. I really don't see IEE at all. Maybe it's a lot of Fe-seeking that is giving the impression she is an ethical type. I know some Alpha NT chicks who are a lot like her in that regard.
    Ironically, I could see my Alpha mother doing that sort of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    As for Jinxi...dunno. ILI could work. I don't have a strong opinion based off the vid.

    And for Jinxi, I'm curious, why Ni leading? I am not saying I don't believe it, but still. I can believe Fe PoLR, though. Is SLI too far out of the question? But I see no strong case for any type except you give introvert vibes, though you could just be really depressed and listless. You seem IP, though, but then again, you could just come off as very deflated due to depression.
    Jinxi does strike me as more Se/Ni valuing fwiw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    She seems more ILE-Ne to me, tbqh. I really don't see IEE at all. Maybe it's a lot of Fe-seeking that is giving the impression she is an ethical type. I know some Alpha NT chicks who are a lot like her in that regard, primarily ILE. She is definitely not EII.
    i'm not really familiar with any ILEs who seem as natural in their Fe as she does but i wouldn't rule it out and i can see where you guys are coming from with it.

    otoh, if you guys are ruling out IEE on the basis of her being disrespectful (ie getting a kick out of pissing off her sibling) and not being interested in a psychological topic...those points aren't completely invalid, but hardly rule out IEE conclusively imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    And for Jinxi, I'm curious, why Ni leading? I am not saying I don't believe it, but still. I can believe Fe PoLR, though. Is SLI too far out of the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    No, but many people (such as Timmy, siuntal, Ashton, k0rp etc.) consider/have considered IEI a good typing for Jinxi.
    Base Ni seems very apparent. IxI was suggested simply because your high-affect moments complicate identification of your creative function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    You're an LII in denial.
    Yet I acknowledge and admit my weaknesses where LIIs excel.


    To be relevant, I still hold IEI. But like everyone has said already, Base is clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Yet I acknowledge and admit my weaknesses where LIIs excel.
    Only as a red herring to maintain your delusional fetish of being Jung's identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    I mean, from what I see, I would easily pick ILE over IEE. I would need a lot more convincing for IEE but need little more convincing for ILE based on that observation.
    Good observation re the sister--ILE also could work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    She acts like that around me because we're familiar with each other. The only other person she's like that is my father...we allow her Ne to flow freely, my mother and other people dislike Ne and shun it...so she looks elsewhere (Fi). I guess I see where you're coming from with that ILE typing, but if she is ILE, she doesn't value her logical function. She's quite fluffy and playful, reminds me a lot of anndelise. In my mind she's an IEE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    Why identical?

    We could both be IEIs. Or I'm confusing Fe for Fi and vice-versa. I can't be sure.
    I believe that I am ILI, and when I observe others whom I type ILI (especially those younger than me) I am often struck with an eery sense of familiarity. Observing ILI's sharing their thoughts or interacting with others, I'll periodically realize they've fallen into some sort of an interpersonal dynamic or way of handling/processing a situation that I have fallen into countless times. To watch this play out as an outside observer provokes a hard-to-describe sense of deja vu whereby I feel that I know the exact thoughts, feelings and impulses racing through the other's mind and am all too well aware of how the various ways of reacting to them are likeliest to play out. In such cases I find myself taking a vested interest in the other, hoping he/she'll not make the same mistakes I have regretted making in the past. As a consequence, I am especially proud of my identicals when they handle a situation well and especially disappointed with them when I feel they've handled a situation poorly.

    I notice that I get this identical vibe fairly frequently around Jinxi (much more often than with Crazedrat, Siuntal, and other self typed IEI's around the forum). My impression is that K0rp felt much the same way when Jinxi arrived on the scene. Unfortunately, there was some sort of falling out and K0rp was especially perturbed by Jinxi's handling of the situation. I think Jinxi let down K0rpsey's expectations of him, and that this bothered K0rp much more so than did any of the insults Jinxi slung his way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    Jinxi does strike me as more Se/Ni valuing fwiw.


    Jinxi, you're very likely ILI, with a possible chance of SLI. When you asked about the teacher's height, eye color, tone of voice, etc., it all seemed very Si-valuing to me. I actually think the Te is a bit more obvious than the Ni, although I see both.

    And your sister is Ne-leading. Not sure between ILE or IEE, would have to see more. (If you can bribe her into doing another video with you again, haha! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    How often do you find your identical? How rare/common are they?
    I can immediately think of 4 individuals I've known fairly well to very well in real life that I consider my identical. I'm certain I've dealt superficially with many others, but socionics usually works poorly for me on people I don't know well.

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    i wish this wasn't true because i'm not the bitch i used to be, but god damn it your sister gave me flashbacks of a girl i used to make fun of from 6th grade until maybe 11th. her personality just made me ridiculously angry and i couldn't handle it. what was interesting about her — and perhaps her most annoying quality — was that nothing that i or my friends did would phase her. we'd make hints that we don't like her, and she'd ignore us. we'd make it obvious, and she'd ignore us. it's like she didn't give a shit how much people disliked her, she'd still stick around us for some reason. she has the same sense of humor as your sister.

    like i said, i'm not as much of a bitch as i used to be, but i think i'd relapse into a bully again if i had to spend more than 30 seconds with your sister. i sincerely don't mean this to make anyone feel bad, just being honest. hopefully it helps in some twisted intertype relation way.

    jinx i think you're INXp. your sister is probably my opposing quadra, whichever that may be. getting crazy Ne leading vibes off her though
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    Your sister is the boring/annoying type. You're the stressed/sometimes a jerk type, or maybe the just-don't-care type.

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    Sorry, what I meant was by intertype relations I would say your sister is not in either of our quadras, and you might not be in my quadra, since you've come off too strong on the emotions. But based on that one video, I would suggest that you're closer to my quadra than your sister is. Translate that in to types, I don't really know what your types are, but I'd like to help figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    I don't care, you're not being a bitch. My sister is annoying and it's taken me 17 years to "appreciate" her quirks. She's a pain in the ass, but she's been hurt often and whatever she's doing is a self-defence mechanism against big bad ogres such as you and I. That being said, I'll do the bullying for you when she comes home.

    Also, this thread is to determine whether I'm IEI or ILI, take that INXp crap to the crapbag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    At Timmy's suggestion, I've made a video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vgBsqk_MiI

    So,

    1) If my sister is ENFp, what do I come off as?

    2) If my sister is INFj, what do I come off as?

    3) If my sister is ENFj, what do I come off as?

    You can type her anything else if you want as well, but those 3 have been the more prominent typings for her and the first two are the most likely.

    Yes, it was boring, but the best I could do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxi View Post
    Lol. You've been through every type. There is no starting point for me to begin with.
    Well I'm INTP in MBTI. I think the types I've thought myself as have revolved around this one, ie. INTp, ENTp, sometimes INFx. Idk though, I'll come back in a couple weeks.

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    aww i think i'd get along with his sister. i don't even know her but i feel like she's misunderstood or something.

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    What a cute video! You guys seem to have a good relationship. I want to see you like on one of those cute family sitcoms, it seems appropriate.

    I can understand your desire to focus the discussion, but I think you're putting too much of the pressure/focus on her because you personally are too deflated to handle/initiate it, or you are the type of person who deals with things by pushing the focus onto other people. And she's reacting by tuning you out a bit, but in a way she's still accommodating you by accepting being focused on. It might be an ExFp way of dealing with things, I don't know. I just perceive that in a way she doesn't care, but in a way she's actually affected by the way you are talking to her and she's trying not to care and mostly succeeding (at least on the outside). And yet she's still protecting you in a way. I think with the Delta NFs I have known, yeah their Ne is just wacky, but sometimes they actually have an (strong?) opinion on the subject and something against their ethical values holds them back from conversing in a more direct manner. It may be for a multitude of reasons. It may be to protect against getting hurt, like you mentioned.

    From what I perceive she is being pretty patient with you and tuning out the parts she doesn't like so she can have a workably pleasant relationship with you. Maybe she sees your soul or believes in the part of you that just acts like Scrooge. I hope I'm not projecting here. Try to take this with a grain of salt. But in general I'm a little uncomfortable with her level of tolerance. I am itching to tell her to tell you to just fuck off already. I would not be a happy camper if someone spoke to me the way you speak to her.

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    If I'm a-NT, then theres nothing that should annoy me about IEE or ESE. IOW, her emotions about things seem kind of over the top for me, and if I were alpha then that wouldn't annoy me. But if I'm ILI,also equally likely, then IEE or ESE might be a rather good typing for her/makes sense from my POV. I don't currently understand why an IEE would be that silly though, unless that's just pure . So there's my 2 cents.

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