What's your MBTI type, Deltas?

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The person's hypothesis I was testing out failed, so the poll doesn't matter anymore. But, this thread isn't a loss because people have been posting very odd socionics-MBTI connections. The most common switch is the J/P switch. I was under the impression that I/E, N/S, and F/T switches were rare, but after these threads, it's clear that it's more common than I thought it was.

TL;DR
If you have an I/E, N/S, or F/T switch, please explain how your socionics and MBTI type complement each other instead of contradict each other.

[Absurd]

That's what I got last time and it is pretty consistent although I can swap 8w7 for 7w8 in first place, anyway:

You are a Type 7 with an 8 wing: "The Realist"

Your tritype is 7w8, 8w7, 3w4.

[Suz]

my combo isn't up there.

I've tested INFJ in MBTI pretty consistently. I'm Fi-IEE in socionics.

[Galen]

I regularly test as INFJ in MBTI, even though I'm not.

[Jinxi]

I regularly test as INFJ in MBTI, even though I'm not.

Ni-Fe? I think you are.

[Suz]

Ni-Fe? I think you are.

MBTI NiFe =/= Socionics NiFe

[DirectorAbbie]

I've scored ISTj, ISTp, and ESTj on MBTI tests.

[Lobo]

I voted for the INFJ, Ne-sub.

[717495]

I'm both INTP and INFP.

[anndelise]

Not too sure about mbti, but under keirsey, depending on my moods or circumstances at the time, I would 'test' as xnfx. My shyness and insecurities would lead to me getting I>E, and my belief at the time that the P traits were bad and I needed to develop my J traits would lead to efforts that would test as really close on the J/P scale. (I was constantly told that the P traits were bad, that's why I was working so hard on the J traits.)

In socionics, I fall under Ne-IEE.

[ashlesha]

i voted Ne-EII and INFP. i usually test INFJ, but i identify more with INFP.

[717495]

So all the Deltas are Js? Maybe I don't belong here then

[Suz]

So all the Deltas are Js? Maybe I don't belong here then

NO!!!

just cause you're INFP in MBTI doesn't really say much about what u are in socionics i think.

I've heard it said that the p and j are switched from MBTI to socionics so it could be those of us quiet IEEs who are testing INFJ instead of ENFJ. Meanwhile you're testing INFP in MBTI and you're INFj in socionics. Seems consistent with that premise.

Anyway, in Sergei Ganin's test on socionics.com i keep coming out INFJ/P (it seems to test MBTI-like differences).

[UDP]

ENTJ


I've concluded I am not Te subtype (LSE)
Si subtype it is, then.


Not sure about DNCH

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ENTJ


I've concluded I am not Te subtype (LSE)
Si subtype it is, then.


Not sure about DNCH

??? I remember you saying you had to "learn" N stuff...wouldn't that make you an ESTJ in MBTI? N vs. S isn't THAT different from socionics to MBTI, is it?

[717495]

The dichotomies don't really transfer well over to Socionics.

[Absurd]

Sorry, forgot to add I'm ESTJ in MBTI.

[Suz]

??? I remember you saying you had to "learn" N stuff...wouldn't that make you an ESTJ in MBTI? N vs. S isn't THAT different from socionics to MBTI, is it?

the other thing that makes MBTI so different from socionics is that MBTI types behavioral traits, while Socionics types information processing (which we try to elucidate from behavioral manifestations).

So, in other words, they might use the same "code" but the focus of each is different.

[UDP]

??? I remember you saying you had to "learn" N stuff...wouldn't that make you an ESTJ in MBTI? N vs. S isn't THAT different from socionics to MBTI, is it?

The dichotomies don't really transfer well over to Socionics.

Bingo.


MBTI's "ESTJ' is this very tradition-bound SJ person, who prefers the safety of regulatory systems and 'maintaining society'. It doesn't fit. I typed for INTJ for a long time. And I used to think I was an LII in socionics for a good while, until I actually grew out of a rather confined environment with limited social interactions.

I get ENTJ now on my MBTI tests because I'm excessively "MBTI EXTRAVERTED THINKING" dominant, and I tend to be more "visionary" and "intuitive" in my approaches to things. The "Rational" temperament works a lot better for me than "Guardian", and that has been the case for me always.

Part of why I don't like MBTI and Keirsey and the like is that they seem to lop "intelligence" and "innovation" into intuition, kind of simplistic stereotypes also like "deep thinker" or "analytical thinking", and how they talk about short term and long term... it's, at the very least, different from how socionics really addresses those topics.


"Learning intuitive stuff" has to do with, hm, basically seeing someone who has socionics Intuition in their ego function at a close psychological distance, over time, and understanding why their values and thought processes work for them -- and then being able to see how they could also work for me.

[Slacker]

So supposedly I'm Fi subtype, but I'm not sure I buy the whole subtype thing. Anyway, I'm ENFP in MBTI.

[717495]

Sorry, forgot to add I'm ESTJ in MBTI.

What made you change from INTP?

[Cuddly McFluffles]

Poli joined Delta? (o.O )

[717495]

Poli joined Delta? (o.O )

You must not read anything outside of the Delta section . I've had this under my avatar for a while.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

You must not read anything outside of the Delta section

Of course I do. You aren't serious, are you?

[717495]

Lol, idk. I was just wondering where the comment about joining Delta came from since I've typed myself Ne-INFj for a while. Or did you mean I was finally participating on the Delta forum? Heh, not really.

[uniden]

I recall scoring ISTP on an MBTI test. Do you have a link to some other MBTI test I could take? ISTP sounds kinda silly for an EII.

[Minde]

Fi-INFj and INFJ, though I've also gotten INTJ and INFP on tests.

[717495]

I've heard it said that the p and j are switched from MBTI to socionics so it could be those of us quiet IEEs who are testing INFJ instead of ENFJ. Meanwhile you're testing INFP in MBTI and you're INFj in socionics. Seems consistent with that premise.

I recall scoring ISTP on an MBTI test. Do you have a link to some other MBTI test I could take? ISTP sounds kinda silly for an EII.

It's all fine, I was just joking about the Delta being J . Anyway, there's no need to go try to change your MBTI type because you're a different Socionics type. If I knew tons of people who were actually into this stuff they might do the same thing too and try to make things consistent, where in reality its not like that at all. My father is an ISTP in MBTI too, and guess what, he's pretty clearly an Ni-ENFj in Socionics. I have absolutely no doubt in either of these typings, just that I've read MBTI books and the first typing comes from the dichotomies and 'craftsman' Ti/Se stereotype, that's consistent with MBTI (because the function definitions are a further adaptation to the dichotomies), where the second one fits the "ENFj" functions, temperament, and stereotype. Just like WA was talking about, they gauge aspects on a different plane of personality, so I could go all into how he's both, or how anyone could be. Socionics is also much closer to Jung too, the common interpretation of MBTI functions does not equal Jung.

I think here on the forum, we often have somewhat similar dichotomy typings based on the fact that there is some evidentual correlation between the two, and this intellectual environment is often more for MBTI "N"s who would most likely, though not always, remain N in Socionics, but its not on a major scale.

Similarly, I was asking Absurd why he thinks he's ESTJ in MBTI when he used to be INTP. I think it would be a much more reasonable estimation to stay with the INTP/LSE typing, or whatever his real MBTI type is, instead of trying to ideally make it fit, if that's what he's doing I am unsure.

[UDP]

I wouldn't be surprised if he absurd was joking, though

[them]

Te-SLI and ISTP by archetype/description - MBTI tests usually gave me INTP.

[blankblank]

Part of why I don't like MBTI and Keirsey

Arrrg, Keirsey. REAL MBTI enthusiasts don't use it.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

Arrrg, Keirsey. REAL MBTI enthusiasts don't use it.

I hope you're joking.

[Absurd]

What made you change from INTP?

Sneaky polikum I know what you're trying to do, anyway:

Extroverted (E) 61.26% Introverted (I) 38.74%
Sensing (S) 89.66% Intuitive (N) 10.34%
Thinking (T) 66.5% Feeling (F) 33.5%
Judging (J) 54.55% Perceiving (P) 45.45%

I wouldn't be surprised if he absurd was joking, though

See what you did there polikujm ? You woke up brownie/cookie enthusiast.

[717495]

Sneaky polikum I know what you're trying to do, anyway:

Well it's true that people often want to become their Socionics dichotomies when taking tests or in real life, even though the dichotomies don't really matter. I just find that a little strange. I remember you said your MBTI type was INTP a couple times, when you first started posting, which I find believable.

[UDP]

Arrrg, Keirsey. REAL MBTI enthusiasts don't use it.

(by the way, waht's up with your signature?

6w1 isn't exactly orthodox enneagram
INJF isn't a type either, is it?

[Absurd]

Well it's true that people often want to become their Socionics dichotomies when taking tests or in real life, even though the dichotomies don't really matter. I just find that a little strange. I remember you said your type was INTP a couple times at first, which I find believable.

Is this a legitimate typing attempt ? If yes, I will be more than grateful when you take it in one of my threads. Thanks

To address the rest, I never said I am INTP, I thought I was ISTp before registering on here, just thought, didn't pay much attention to this magical system in the beginning, was way too abstract and still, to this day, is. In other words, I don't know what am I to do with it. Make money out of it, eat it, pay my bills ? I don't think so

So yea, bust out the big guns, because the road to hell is paved with good intentions

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6w1 isn't exactly orthodox enneagram
INJF isn't a type either, is it?

I don't care about 6w5 vs. 6w7. At all. My secondmost tendencies are of 1s. But enneagram doesn't give me a way to express that (other than tritype, which I'm a 6-2-1, though I don't relate to 2s much so tritype doesn't help me express it, either). So, I mock the wing theory and identify as 6w1.

INJF indicates my letter preferences: I>N>J>F. People do that a lot on typologycentral and personalitycafe. Just another unorthodox way to express what I actually am.

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I hope you're joking.

Keirsey temperaments should have never been connected to MBTI. Sensors are categorized based on their sensing function, but intuitives are categorized based on Feeling vs. Thinking. It really ought to be SJ, SP, NJ, and NP OR ST, SF, NT, and NF. At least SJ and SP make some sense because SJs share Si and SPs share Se (though dominant Si or Se types have a very different outlook than auxiliary Si or Se types). But NFJs and NFPs don't have any of the same functions, and neither do NTJs and NTPs.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

Keirsey temperaments should have never been connected to MBTI. Sensors are categorized based on their sensing function, but intuitives are categorized based on Feeling vs. Thinking. It really ought to be SJ, SP, NJ, and NP OR ST, SF, NT, and NF. At least SJ and SP make some sense because SJs share Si and SPs share Se (though dominant Si or Se types have a very different outlook than auxiliary Si or Se types). But NFJs and NFPs don't have any of the same functions, and neither do NTJs and NTPs.

So then, your comment was directed at mixing the theories, not at someone being into both but keeping them separate. Is this correct?

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So then, your comment was directed at mixing the theories, not at someone being into both but keeping them separate. Is this correct?

Yes. MBTI and Keirsey were mentioned in one comment so I was concerned about the arbitrary connections.

Not to mention the subforums of MBTI sites are not pleasant at all, especially for intuitives since the Ps and Js have totally different functions. >______>