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    So I read DJ's thread about this supposed 'SLE' being guilt-stricken about wanting to fuck whoever makes him horny.

    Why feel guilty about that though? I mean even shy really passive people that a lot of people feel sorry for (Like me) want to fuck everything that we're attracted to. It's only human nature.

    It doesn't mean you can't also have long, loving relationships too. But wanting to fuck more than one person isn't being cruel. Not even to the person you really like a lot and romantically fancy.

    Being cruel is being cruel.

    The real issue with that is , is that monogamy isn't natural to the human species. Sorry, it just isn't. Although a monogamous relationship can be very satisfying, we're naturally built to wanna fuck whoever turns us on.

    It's only cruel if you use somebody's feelings against them, and try to pretend that it's more than just a hot fuck, just to get in bed with them. Now that, is messed up. You're using somebody wanting real love and human affection just to get your rocks off.

    But dear god would people stop feeling guilty over their sexuality? Long-term enduring romantic feelings and more subtle sexual overtones and classical love can exist peacefully along the same side as a fleeting encounter. You should feel guilty if you want to kill and hurt other people and make fun of their feelings and be a asshat. You shouldn't feel guilty if you want to fuck them in their cute little bottom boy ass. Mmm.


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    It's a man thang.
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    I sort of agree. I wish that I let myself be a bit nastier when it comes to sex and pursuing sex. I don't mean Nasty like the Janet Jackson song, I don't even know that I want to do things that are all that gross (like facials in general are unappealing to me and they're on the sidebar of every site with a naked girl on it ever, and in porn when she actually bounces up and down on his dick, like actually hopping up and down, it just looks painful, not fun) I just mean less nice gentle all-american inoffensive.

    But I dunno about that. I mean, God is real and all, and sex really could have a wall around it, you know? Like it could change the conformation of your cells or something (that's not what I mean, but you know what I mean?). Maybe you do leave a piece of yourself, maybe there's no true mindless fuck, not for us, not for mindful creatures, not even when freed from self-consciousness, because the spirit does what the spirit will do regardless of whether we know it or not. Shrug.
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    I just wish I could find a way to have sex without having to lie about it beforehand.




    EDIT: Or pay.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

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    I actually agree with you B&D. People take it too seriously. It's just sex.

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    monogamy is in my nature, although i think that humankind reflects more than one nature on this... i.e. that we aren't all "meant" to be any way at all sexually. i suspect that the multiple partners thing esp where men are concerned is just as natural. i think both forces are present. if the monogamy one wasn't present for instance people wouldn't tend to get so jealous, angry and upset when they're being cheated on. i think humans do naturally seek partnerships and companionship because having just that one person you share yourself with is like having a mirror. if you add a third person in, it lacks the same intimacy because you have to keep going back and forth between the two mirrors. it's a bad analogy but i don't feel like trying to fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    I just wish I could find a way to have sex without having to lie about it beforehand.




    EDIT: Or pay.
    What do you need to lie about?
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    There's nothing stopping us from having sex with whomever we want except cultural values and STDs. They both need to go, and then everyone will be happy, except ugly people.

    All in favor of lunch hours becoming sex hours, say aye!
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    I'm a monogamist. Polygamy is disgusting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    What do you need to lie about?
    There is, as far as I know, no relationship that is not founded, initiated, or continued by a series of weird cultural exchanges. You have to pretend to be a lot of things, because those are the things people want. And then once you've pretended for a while, gradually you start being yourself. That's for romance.

    For pure sex, there are just no girls (that I know of) that will respond well to the question "wanna fuck?" so if that's all you really want, all the business around it (pretending to be interested in what she's saying, hordes of bad complements, I dunno what else goes into it), is tantamount to lying.

    EDIT: Or, to put it another way the only way I know to get a girl to like me is to be fake. Shrug.

    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I'm a monogamist. Polygamy is disgusting to me.
    what's up weak Fi? (1 and 2-D Fi is just this sort of thing, in my experience. Taboo in place of the more nuanced and contextualized system of feeling responders in 3- and 4-D Fi. It's like... 1 and 2-D Fi try to make Fi into Ti---rules as universal as possible---whereas 3- and 4-D Fi are willing to be very situational. Or maybe that's just FiNe vs. FiSe. Shrug.)
    Not a rule, just a trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    I know it's currently somewhat fashionable to believe that, but I suspect it's not exactly true. Considering that human children are very resource intensive to raise and take a long time to reach maturation relative to other species, monogamy makes sense as a mating strategy conducive to reproductive survival. There's probably something to be said too for the fact that nearly every successful culture practices it, whereas the ones that don't tend to disintegrate into stagnation and barbarism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverchris9 View Post
    I just wish I could find a way to have sex without having to lie about it beforehand.




    EDIT: Or pay.
    Hey now.

    Your attitude has a lot to do with things, so downing yourself. Don't be over the top, of course, that works for getting laid usually, but...

    just know you're worth it. Someone who likes what you've got will come along. Just don't out-think yourself from it.


    Why do you think you're so patently unlikable…? You seem like a smart dude without any serious psychological issues. So as long as you're not butt-ugly, there shouldn't be a problem.
    This is pretty much the case. Just don't down yourself before you even let them get to know you.

    Also, the more true to yourself you are, the more people will be able to sense it, and the more you'll get something substantial. You can also be a great liar and still get results, but, I'm guessing that's not your choseh path.

    etc etc etc

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