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    Anything from alcohol abuse to heroin, through marijuana, opioids, etc etc.

    I have found ESTP/ESTJ tend to alcohol abuse, while ISTP tends to marijuana and other relaxing drugs (pharmaceutical ones for example). ESTP likes cocaine, because it stimulates him even more and gives him a boost of and .
    ESTP and ISTP like Ecstasy (mdma) more than other types.

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    IMO, I don't think it's type related.

    But from the ones I know/have known:

    IEI/INFp: Cocaine, Marijuana, Acid.
    IEI/INFp: Crystal Meth, Marijuana, Alcohol.
    ESE/ESFj: Ecstasy, Marijuana, Alcohol.
    ESE/ESFj: Marijuana, Alcohol.
    LIE/ENTj: Marijuana, Alcohol.
    LIE/ENTj: Marijuana.
    LSE/ESTj: Acid, Marijuana, Cocaine, Alcohol.
    ESI/ISFj: Cocaine, Marijuana, Ecstasy, Alcohol.
    ESI/ISFj: Marijuana, LSD.
    LSI/ISTj: Ecstasy.
    SEE/ESFp: Alcohol.
    SLE/ESTp: Alcohol.
    EII/INFj: Cocaine, Alcohol.
    EIE/ENFj: Heroin.
    EIE/ENFj: Shrooms, Marijuana, Alcohol, Ecstasy, Cocaine.
    LII/INTj: Marijuana.
    ILE/ENTp: Marijuana.

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    Si-HA: nothing because of health issues.
    ISTj: nothing because it's against the law. (doesn't exclude alcohol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    IMO, I don't think it's type related.

    But from the ones I know/have known:

    IEI/INFp: Cocaine, Marijuana, Acid.
    IEI/INFp: Crystal Meth, Marijuana, Alcohol.
    ESE/ESFj: Ecstasy, Marijuana, Alcohol.
    ESE/ESFj: Marijuana, Alcohol.
    LIE/ENTj: Marijuana, Alcohol.
    LIE/ENTj: Marijuana.
    LSE/ESTj: Acid, Marijuana, Cocaine, Alcohol.
    ESI/ISFj: Cocaine, Marijuana, Ecstasy, Alcohol.
    ESI/ISFj: Marijuana, LSD.
    LSI/ISTj: Ecstasy.
    SEE/ESFp: Alcohol.
    SLE/ESTp: Alcohol.
    EII/INFj: Cocaine, Alcohol.
    EIE/ENFj: Heroin.
    EIE/ENFj: Shrooms, Marijuana, Alcohol, Ecstasy, Cocaine.
    LII/INTj: Marijuana.
    ILE/ENTp: Marijuana.
    where are the other types, and why 2 separate lines for each type?
    also lol @
    EIE/ENFj: Heroin.
    EIE/ENFj: Shrooms, Marijuana, Alcohol, Ecstasy, Cocaine.

    ENFJ: any thing that might in the slightest probability cause alteration of mental state, especially hard drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoomer View Post
    Si-HA: nothing because of health issues.
    ISTj: nothing because it's against the law. (doesn't exclude alcohol)
    good reasoning. INFJs are less likely to use any substance in my experience, because of both their strong sensitivity to them and also to their Si-HA. Two female INFJs said they never used marijuana nor acid more than once because both had had 'bad trips' on their first use. I've been in Narcotic Anonymous though and there are MANY ISTj's there... they're usually the stalwarts of the group, the ones who serve coffee and keep everything neat and clean, and make sure no one disrupts the seriousness of NA.

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    You can peg Marijuana/LSD/Shrooms/MDMA to whatever type I appear to be, but I'd say it's more knowledge related than type related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Air View Post
    where are the other types, and why 2 separate lines for each type?
    It's for each person I know or have known.

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    ESFj - Alchohol
    ENTp - Marijuana, Alchohol

    ESTp - Coke, Marijuana, Tobacco, Inhalents
    ESTp - Marijuana
    INFp - Marijuana
    INFp - Marijuana, LSD, Shrooms, Salvia, Esctasy
    ISTj - Marijuana

    ENTj - Marijuana
    ESFp - Marijuana
    ISFj - Marijuana

    ENFp - Tobacco (Hookah style), alcohol
    ISTp - Marijuana
    ISTp - Marijuana
    ISTp - Marijuana
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    SLI is on that list three times? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nil View Post
    SLI is on that list three times? lol
    Yea I know 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Yea I know 4.
    Oh, personal examples.

    Is it safe to say they enjoy marijuana then?

    Personally, I have never done drugs, but if I were to try, it would probably be some type of hallucinogen. Although, I have heard that marijuana makes the perception of time slow down considerably, and that could be interesting as well. But I am not apt to do so. I don't really feel a great need to try.

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    from people I know:

    INTP - cocaine
    INFP - cocaine, mdma, lsd, peyote, marijuana, crack
    ESTP - cocaine, mdma, lsd, crack, alcohol
    ENFJ - cocaine, crack, alcohol
    ENFJ - cocaine, alcohol, marijuana, heroin
    ENFJ - cocaine, poppers, heroin
    INFP - cocaine, alcohol, heroin
    ESTP - cocaine, crack
    ISTJ - alcohol, cocaine, amphetamines
    ISTP - mdma, cocaine, lsd.
    ISTP - mdma, cocaine, 2c-i, valium, frontal, lsd.
    ESTJ - alcohol
    ESTJ - alcohol, cocaine, amphetamines, adderall, ritalin
    ENTJ - alcohol
    ESFP - marijuana, alcohol (arrested for possession of small amount of marijuana)
    ESFP - alcohol
    ISFP - marijuana




    these are the ones I remember now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nil View Post
    Oh, personal examples.

    Is it safe to say they enjoy marijuana then?
    Pretty much.

    Personally, I have never done drugs, but if I were to try, it would probably be some type of hallucinogen. Although, I have heard that marijuana makes the perception of time slow down considerably, and that could be interesting as well. But I am not apt to do so. I don't really feel a great need to try.
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    When you're fully independent, and not inhibited, you have a different feeling towards them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Air View Post
    good reasoning. INFJs are less likely to use any substance in my experience, because of both their strong sensitivity to them and also to their Si-HA. Two female INFJs said they never used marijuana nor acid more than once because both had had 'bad trips' on their first use. I've been in Narcotic Anonymous though and there are MANY ISTj's there... they're usually the stalwarts of the group, the ones who serve coffee and keep everything neat and clean, and make sure no one disrupts the seriousness of NA.
    We worry too much about "losing" it and what will happen to us because we're not very well in touch with our senses and the slightest shift in our mental state with regards to sensory experience really shakes us and gives me especially paranoia bridging on hypochondria.

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    Yeah, not really type-related. Different types do drugs for different reasons. E.g. for / valuing irrationals it's more about the experience and learning something, whereas for rationals it's often a social bonding thing (Fi/Fe).

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    I experimented with most drugs besides crack and heroin..umm... never did peyote either. The first two by choice. I probably would have done peyote if I could have. I got it out of my system by 17 though. I'm just a smoker, and just drink the occasional wine or guiness..
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    I hate heroin actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Yeah, not really type-related. Different types do drugs for different reasons. E.g. for / valuing irrationals it's more about the experience and learning something, whereas for rationals it's often a social bonding thing (Fi/Fe).
    I agree with this, choice of drugs is not type related not anymore than personality is type related because you react to drugs based on things unrelated to type, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    I agree with this, choice of drugs is not type related not anymore than personality is type related because you react to drugs based on things unrelated to type, I believe.
    Well, the ENFp is called the Aldous Huxley on wikisocion. That's pretty funny if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straytk View Post
    Well, the ENFp is called the Aldous Huxley on wikisocion. That's pretty funny if you ask me.
    yep. ENFps = mescaline.

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    As infj-ne i get amped (snorting speed, not ice) pretty regularly at different kind of party... I smoked regularly for 1 year but stopped 4 year ago, now I buy perhaps only 2 to 4 g of good mj each 6 month.

    Sometime I binge on dissociative too (ketamine, methoxetamine).

    Ive to admit I often fear about health consequence, even if im not a big consumer of drugs (4 time a month when many occasion, 1 time each 4 month generally). Probably this have smth to do with Si HA (what worry me is much more mental health than physical health, thought).

    For example I never took real psychedelic at normal dose (shroom, LSD) - ive done only 1 time 1/4 hit LSD, cuz I fear it will mentally wreck my mind.
    Idk if it will be strange to you, but there is many ESTj I know who LOVE lsd (I know too 1 ENFP who indulge regularly in LSD and like it. Some INFj like it too but don't trip often and not in party setting).
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    When I was in college I experimented with a lot of things, but I feel like my mind is already naturally high on itself, artificial drugs arent really necessary.. except for caffeine and occasional drinks on the weekends.

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    I have used drugs to self-medicate/feed my Si-HA.
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    The only recreational drugs I take:

    Leading Ni - It makes me have lucid dreams where I examine cause and effects of the past and present for hidden meanings, symbols, patterns, and trends that will unveil the future.

    Side Effects: apathy, indifference, detachment, lazy, leisurely or lethargic behaviour, blank or emotionless facial expression, a percising focused gaze, excessive fantasizing and daydreaming, obliviousness to environment, eccentric and esoteric perceptions.

    Creative Te - It gives me an uncontrollable urge to make choices based on logic expediency and efficiency; as well as a need to gather objective data from credible, primary or secondary sources, then check sources validity for opinionated biased information, then remove them and create a consensus from the remaining sources, which are use to update my own personal views and beliefs.

    Side Effects: pragmatism, fixation over efficiency and optimization, compulsion to criticize and debate others views, harsh and unsympathic tone of voice, straightforward blunt communication, crude and vulgar sense of humor, innuendos, double ontandras, witty and ironic comments, a distrust or rejection of information from unreliable, uncreadible sources.
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    I'd definitely say that my Si-HA has a lot to do with my highly sober lifestyle. Personal moral objections too, not that I'm gonna judge everyone who does drugs or anything. I can naturally be tripped-out or take on goofy inebriated behaviors on my own on occasion, so I really don't need to indulge in narcotics, although I will get sloshed here and there.
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