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    So an SLI and an LSI argue over whether or not juice from a large-mouthed container can be poored into a small-mouthed container, without a funnel, and without spilling any of the juice:

    SLI: That's a bad idea. That's not going to work.
    LSI: No, you're just dumb.
    SLI: Wow. Are you serious?
    LSI: Nope, you're wrong. Just admit you're wrong.
    SLI: Okay, let's see.
    LSI: So you admit you are wrong.
    SLI: Come on, pour the juice. Let's see.

    LSI begins pouring the juice into the smaller container. He doesn't spill any juice.

    LSI: Yup...I'm right.
    SLI looks at him and says "Good Job".
    LOL, get it?

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    That's pretty hilarious. "So you admit you are wrong." lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divided View Post
    So an SLI and an LSI argue over whether or not juice from a large-mouthed container can be poored into a small-mouthed container, without a funnel, and without spilling any of the juice:



    LOL, get it?
    Not really.

    SLIs have a fetish for watching people pour juice into a cup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Not really.

    SLIs have a fetish for watching people pour juice into a cup?
    LOL; they are just abstracting sensations through observation. The one pouring the juice is probably the one doing the work, who is my dual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    LOL; they are just abstracting sensations through observation. The one pouring the juice is probably the one doing the work, who is my dual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    The one pouring the juice is probably the one doing the work, who is my dual.
    You know, other types are capable of "doing the work." Since when is LSI your dual?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    You know, other types are capable of "doing the work." Since when is LSI your dual?
    lol LSI? where did you get that?

    I wasn't singling out other types who can/can't do certain things; you misunderstood me. You being an E types is probably doing more work than an I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    lol LSI? where did you get that?

    I wasn't singling out other types who can/can't do certain things; you misunderstood me. You being an E types is probably doing more work than an I.
    And I believe you misunderstood the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    And I believe you misunderstood the OP.
    I wasn't responding to the OP.

    As for his post. SLI/LSI arguments are quite heated, to say the least and don't look like that. I don't agree with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I wasn't responding to the OP.
    Okay then, I'm confused. What were you responding to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    Okay then, I'm confused. What were you responding to?

    ESC's wondering about what SLI do...as in do they watch as people pour juice? I said yes because they are internalizing the sensation as another person does the work.

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    Okay, but this is the part I don't understand:

    The one pouring the juice is probably the one doing the work, who is my dual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    Okay, but this is the part I don't understand:
    introverts observe activities of extraverts. often observes when they are working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    introverts observe activities of extraverts. often observes when they are working.
    I get that, too. But...

    But, you're tying in a general observation with the OP by using the same "pouring the juice" example, and it's very confusing! Don't make a reference to the OP if you're not responding to the OP.

    DON'T CONFUSE ME LIKE THAT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    I get that, too. But...

    But, you're tying in a general observation with the OP by using the same "pouring the juice" example, and it's very confusing! Don't make a reference to the OP if you're not responding to the OP.

    DON'T CONFUSE ME LIKE THAT!

    You're my Mirror; aren't we supposed to understand each other better?

    I gotta go.

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    no, understanding between mirror types is not really all that clear sometimes, because you understand by perception and I understand by judgement; you usually need a lot more information to get what I was trying to say....

    I didn't mean to tie what i was saying to the OP at all. I only picked one particular statement and answered to that statement. I didn't look at the general, big picture first, , like you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post

    You're my Mirror; aren't we supposed to understand each other better?

    I gotta go.

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    our similarities are in and but in differing orders/mirrored. The things we have in common is we value morals and looking at things in big pictures. You look at the big picture first. I look at relationships first.

    I agree with you, and you agree with me (eventually, as you get past the big picture), and we often give each other very good advice.


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    so is this a good example of static vs dynamic?

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    In Here:

    introverts observe activities of extraverts. often observes when they are working.

    I am looking at relationship between two types first and not looking at what you're looking at, which is, how is what I'm saying related to OP, which is looking at the general, bigger picture..


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    Lol@thread

    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Not really.

    SLIs have a fetish for watching people pour juice into a cup?
    LOL...I would give you an explanation, but every time I try to imagine what would make you think that and address it, I just keep laughing...LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    LOL; they are just abstracting sensations through observation. The one pouring the juice is probably the one doing the work, who is my dual.
    ...LOL...what happened here?...LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by laghlagh View Post
    so is this a good example of static vs dynamic?
    Lol...oh man...I'm not sure if you're serious, trying to get a reply out of Maritsa, or making a joke about this making no sense to you.

    Lol...please let me know which one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    I am looking at relationship between two types first and not looking at what you're looking at, which is, how is what I'm saying related to OP, which is looking at the general, bigger picture..
    wut...nvm


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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    Ti always wins.
    Truth.

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    SLI was skeptical while LSI was confident.
    Their moods or whatever were different. What they said was different.
    One used Ti Se and sounded like discojoe the other like a redneck sli mechanic...jk...sorta.
    LSI didn't change except right or wrong. STATIC
    SLI's mood changed from sceptical to praising. dyNaMIC

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    Quote Originally Posted by jughead View Post
    SLI was skeptical while LSI was confident.
    Their moods or whatever were different. What they said was different.
    One used Ti Se and sounded like discojoe the other like a redneck sli mechanic...jk...sorta.
    LSI didn't change except right or wrong. STATIC
    SLI's mood changed from sceptical to praising. dyNaMIC
    Yeah, basically.

    I was trying to exemplify the idea that the LSI extreme static view is that nothing they think can ever be wrong since it's just a binary decision of yes or no, given current data.

    And the SLI with an extreme dynamic view will only be concerned with things as they come, referencing the past familiarity and deciding how to do something, not whether something is right or wrong.

    But um, one thing though, the SLI wasn't actually praising him. He said "Good Job" in such an emotionally disengaged expression that he was simply looking at the dynamic completing of the task, and nothing else, completing the joke of static and dynamic - right/wrong vs task-completion

    Also, although this was based on two real people, the story was a slightly fictionalized summarized version of how they argue. I assume most realize this. But these two have really heated arguments and from an outside perspective, I was hoping to show how Quasi-identicals can be very funny. At least these two are to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    Ti always wins.
    At it's own game. Which unfortunately isn't called reality.

    Reality is changing. Reality is dynamic. Reality is .
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    Quote Originally Posted by laghlagh View Post
    so is this a good example of static vs dynamic?

    This thread is a good example of a train wreck




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    Quote Originally Posted by Divided View Post
    Lol...oh man...I'm not sure if you're serious, trying to get a reply out of Maritsa, or making a joke about this making no sense to you.

    Lol...please let me know which one.
    i was making an effort to steer the thread back to the op but apparently i didn't get it either? WHAT IS HAPPENING

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divided View Post
    LSI begins pouring the juice into the smaller container. He doesn't spill any juice.
    LOL, get it?
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Not really.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    The one pouring the juice is probably the one doing the work, who is my dual.
    Duality strikes!

    Hey EyeSeeCold you like juice, you like to pour it in a glass or something ?

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    The SLI would probably just use a funnel to increase the output and speed of the process, accounting for many variables. It would also make his life easier...funnels are easy to come by.

    To Parkster: Ti types will be backed by Se,Ne, Fe, and or Si/Ni so they are not worse off. I think Gulenko believes Beta/gamma are "better", at least in todays world at competition for power (rat race really), though hes not some indisputable source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divided View Post
    Yeah, basically.

    I was trying to exemplify the idea that the LSI extreme static view is that nothing they think can ever be wrong since it's just a binary decision of yes or no, given current data.

    And the SLI with an extreme dynamic view will only be concerned with things as they come, referencing the past familiarity and deciding how to do something, not whether something is right or wrong.

    But um, one thing though, the SLI wasn't actually praising him. He said "Good Job" in such an emotionally disengaged expression that he was simply looking at the dynamic completing of the task, and nothing else, completing the joke of static and dynamic - right/wrong vs task-completion

    Also, although this was based on two real people, the story was a slightly fictionalized summarized version of how they argue. I assume most realize this. But these two have really heated arguments and from an outside perspective, I was hoping to show how Quasi-identicals can be very funny. At least these two are to me.
    I get into arguments like this with SLIs all the time. Naturally, I am always right.

    You can also see how the argument arises in a sensing context.

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    lol... Introverts work less than Extroverts , Maritsa? I know two ISTJs who are total workaholics, one of them works even on sundays when needed (a psychiatrist). Some of these stereotypes have to be clarified. ISTPs do not like to work hard but in things they like they often work a lot, like for example their cars. And also if the working is relaxed and not demanding of them, they can work long hours without any problem. The ESTJ as a workaholic is another failed stereotype. Though we enjoy working, it's not workaholism, especially because of Ne-HA, which makes us want to travel to many places, meet many different people, experience as much in life as it can, in different settings. I for example enjoy a lot talking to people from other countries/cultures/backgrounds because of this Ne-HA. I can postpone work if a conversation of this kind is interesting. I also love travelling. Vacations are always for some travel. The more distant and unknown the place, the better. I prefer much more to explore possibilities than to work. I guess Te-HA would be working a lot, such as ENTPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divided View Post
    Yeah, basically.

    I was trying to exemplify the idea that the LSI extreme static view is that nothing they think can ever be wrong since it's just a binary decision of yes or no, given current data.

    And the SLI with an extreme dynamic view will only be concerned with things as they come, referencing the past familiarity and deciding how to do something, not whether something is right or wrong.

    But um, one thing though, the SLI wasn't actually praising him. He said "Good Job" in such an emotionally disengaged expression that he was simply looking at the dynamic completing of the task, and nothing else, completing the joke of static and dynamic - right/wrong vs task-completion

    Also, although this was based on two real people, the story was a slightly fictionalized summarized version of how they argue. I assume most realize this. But these two have really heated arguments and from an outside perspective, I was hoping to show how Quasi-identicals can be very funny. At least these two are to me.
    Wait... and that's supposed to be funny? Sorry, but I just don't get the humour in it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Air View Post
    lol... Introverts work less than Extroverts , Maritsa? I know two ISTJs who are total workaholics, one of them works even on sundays when needed (a psychiatrist). Some of these stereotypes have to be clarified. ISTPs do not like to work hard but in things they like they often work a lot, like for example their cars. And also if the working is relaxed and not demanding of them, they can work long hours without any problem. The ESTJ as a workaholic is another failed stereotype. Though we enjoy working, it's not workaholism, especially because of Ne-HA, which makes us want to travel to many places, meet many different people, experience as much in life as it can, in different settings. I for example enjoy a lot talking to people from other countries/cultures/backgrounds because of this Ne-HA. I can postpone work if a conversation of this kind is interesting. I also love travelling. Vacations are always for some travel. The more distant and unknown the place, the better. I prefer much more to explore possibilities than to work. I guess Te-HA would be working a lot, such as ENTPs.
    I was referring to to relations; but yes, LSI, with their can work a lot; I guess they prefer analyzing a lot more than just doing; in observation with the they are more "let's talk about it" than take action and just get things done, like an SLE would. To you, being an they may seem much more E.

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