copying redbaron cos i thought it might be interesting. discuss!
victim-childlike
aggressor-childlike
equally bad
just going by the theory: there is no victim-infantile conflicting pair, whereas every conflictor of an infantile is an aggressor (and vice versa). So perhaps the latter is worse.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Having thought through all this already for one of my recent blogs posts, I have to say overall aggressor/infantile would be worse, at least for me.
I think temperament has something to do with it, too, though. As in, Ej victims would be a worse pairing for me than Ip victims; and Ij aggressors would be worse than Ep aggressors.
Between Ep aggressors and Ip victims, it's not so much that one would really be a whole lot worse (or better) that the other romantically; but that I'm just more likely to be interested in a long-term romantic relationship with an Ip than with an Ep; Identical temperaments just seem to work better as friends than as lovers.
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Some of the SLE and LSI girls I've met weren't frustrating so much as they moved too quick. Some non-type related issues involved as well. Like one LSI was nice, but she was still dating someone else, for example. And (I believe) one SLE who I couldn't say no to. If I did, she'd guilt me, thinking that something was wrong with her. Then she'd get mad for not laughing at her jokes. Then when I wanted to call it a night and not go to her hotel room, she got suspicious again... thinking I had a girlfriend. I can't imagine any of that working longterm.
It'd be funny if I'm mistyped and actually IEI though. Beta girls usually like me.
infantile to victim relations are not good.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
It's funny though.. From a distance, I might think Aggressor females would be cool. I've caught myself telling friends "Why can't I find more women like that?" But then when I had more experience with it, it doesn't work out.
I've made a point though to tell a friend of mine (who I think is ESI) how awesome she is for how she hooked up with an LSE friend. She was definitely the initiator there, and he was in a bad relationship at the time. She came in and changed it. The first night I met her, she had this determined look on her face in meeting him and pushing the other girl out of the picture (the other chick was a bummer anyways). And they're married now (with a kid).
These erotic attitudes don't work when applied strictly to sex in my experience. I see them as nothing more than social tendencies.
victim and infantile would be way worse than aggressor and infantile, im experience
I can stiffly get an aggressor to back down when I tell them directly to not do something because it hurts me, but I can't get a victim to stop sulking in their misery.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Infantile-infantile:
Infantile-aggressor: in bed
Infantile-victim:
Infantile-caregiver:
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
victim-victim is pretty bad.
"throat fuck me."
"no u."
"no u."
... a billion times.
From my experience with an SLE (aggressor-infantile) its been adventurous and fun at times with areas of conflict and separation. Hot and Cold.
From my experience with an IEI (victim-infantile) its been stable and calm but lacking in any forward momentum. Harmonious but Placid.
When I would hang around with both in the right conditions there was a lot of Ti/Fe synergy due to Beta/Alpha.
I'd imagine the same would apply for an SLE or IEI hanging out with a SEI/ILE pair.