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Thread: worse: victim-childlike or aggressor-childlike?

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    Default worse: victim-childlike or aggressor-childlike?

    copying redbaron cos i thought it might be interesting. discuss!

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    just going by the theory: there is no victim-infantile conflicting pair, whereas every conflictor of an infantile is an aggressor (and vice versa). So perhaps the latter is worse.
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    Having thought through all this already for one of my recent blogs posts, I have to say overall aggressor/infantile would be worse, at least for me.

    I think temperament has something to do with it, too, though. As in, Ej victims would be a worse pairing for me than Ip victims; and Ij aggressors would be worse than Ep aggressors.

    Between Ep aggressors and Ip victims, it's not so much that one would really be a whole lot worse (or better) that the other romantically; but that I'm just more likely to be interested in a long-term romantic relationship with an Ip than with an Ep; Identical temperaments just seem to work better as friends than as lovers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    just going by the theory: there is no victim-infantile conflicting pair, whereas every conflictor of an infantile is an aggressor (and vice versa). So perhaps the latter is worse.
    Some of the SLE and LSI girls I've met weren't frustrating so much as they moved too quick. Some non-type related issues involved as well. Like one LSI was nice, but she was still dating someone else, for example. And (I believe) one SLE who I couldn't say no to. If I did, she'd guilt me, thinking that something was wrong with her. Then she'd get mad for not laughing at her jokes. Then when I wanted to call it a night and not go to her hotel room, she got suspicious again... thinking I had a girlfriend. I can't imagine any of that working longterm.

    It'd be funny if I'm mistyped and actually IEI though. Beta girls usually like me.

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    infantile to victim relations are not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Aggressor: Infantiles tend to perceive Aggressors as a bit too "rough" and even slightly scary on occasion, or perhaps just as obnoxious
    It's funny though.. From a distance, I might think Aggressor females would be cool. I've caught myself telling friends "Why can't I find more women like that?" But then when I had more experience with it, it doesn't work out.

    I've made a point though to tell a friend of mine (who I think is ESI) how awesome she is for how she hooked up with an LSE friend. She was definitely the initiator there, and he was in a bad relationship at the time. She came in and changed it. The first night I met her, she had this determined look on her face in meeting him and pushing the other girl out of the picture (the other chick was a bummer anyways). And they're married now (with a kid).

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    These erotic attitudes don't work when applied strictly to sex in my experience. I see them as nothing more than social tendencies.

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    Infantile: Victims tend to perceive Infantiles as too goofy and expecting a kind of attention that the Victims find demanding; Victim women are prone to see Infantile men as irritating.
    rings true for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by detail View Post
    These erotic attitudes don't work when applied strictly to sex in my experience. I see them as nothing more than social tendencies.
    I agree. Erotic attitudes tend to show a lot more in close relationships (esp. romantic ones), but not necessarily or even usually in the act of sex itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanprollyright View Post
    I agree. Erotic attitudes tend to show a lot more in close relationships (esp. romantic ones), but not necessarily or even usually in the act of sex itself.
    agreeing again because i agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detail View Post
    These erotic attitudes don't work when applied strictly to sex in my experience. I see them as nothing more than social tendencies.
    Oh, erotic styles. I kind of wish they would be applied strictly to sex, as knowing that it is considered orthodox that half the socion in some manner wishes to be metaphorically fondled unsettles me slightly.
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    victim and infantile would be way worse than aggressor and infantile, im experience

    I can stiffly get an aggressor to back down when I tell them directly to not do something because it hurts me, but I can't get a victim to stop sulking in their misery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlast View Post
    Oh, erotic styles. I kind of wish they would be applies strictly to sex, as knowing that it is considered orthodox that half the socion in some manner wishes to be metaphorically fondled unsettles me slightly.
    ahahahah

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    Infantile-infantile:
    Infantile-aggressor: in bed
    Infantile-victim:
    Infantile-caregiver:
    ILE "Searcher"
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    victim-victim is pretty bad.

    "throat fuck me."
    "no u."
    "no u."

    ... a billion times.

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    From my experience with an SLE (aggressor-infantile) its been adventurous and fun at times with areas of conflict and separation. Hot and Cold.

    From my experience with an IEI (victim-infantile) its been stable and calm but lacking in any forward momentum. Harmonious but Placid.

    When I would hang around with both in the right conditions there was a lot of Ti/Fe synergy due to Beta/Alpha.

    I'd imagine the same would apply for an SLE or IEI hanging out with a SEI/ILE pair.

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