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    Does anyone have a guess at the types of Jamie and Adam from Mythbusters? Also, does their relationship (what we see of it on TV) seem like one of semi-duality?
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    I just watched that show for the first time today! What a cooincidence. They were doing the thing with the pee on the railroad tracks.

    Anyways, if I knew which person was Jamie, and which one was Adam, I could probably tell you. But I can't. Lo siento.
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    That or mirrors.

    Love that show.

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    I was thinking of making a thread about Jamie and Adam. I found this thread and I'm bumping it.

    What types are they?


    Jamie Hyneman - I propose ISTp.
    Adam Savage - ??? Is he really ENTp (semiduality) or might he be ESTj (mirror)?
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    ISTp - ENTp or INTp - ESTp.

    That redhead is INFp btw.

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    I had considered INFp for the redhead many times. But the other one still seems ISTp


    Jamie and Adam

    Adam and Jamie

    Could it be similar to the relationship between ISTp and INFp? Is it really super-ego?
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    The more I watch, the more I'm sure Adam is ENTp. Jamie could be ISTp.
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    Adam Savage - ILE
    Jamie Hyneman - SLI

    ???
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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    The hot chick gets to be SEI because I said so. Also I agree with the above.

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    What is the reasoning behind typing Jamie as SLI? I've always thought of him as an LII -- his stiff IJ posture, his eccentricities, his individualistic fashion sense (beret and walrus goatee). There was one episode where they tested Cabin Fever by spending 48 hours in isolated cabins, and Jamie spent a long time just sitting and staring out the window, and also took the opportunity to rewrite the U.S. Constitution. When the test was over, he even said he was "just starting to get into it".

    I'm not sure how an SLI would respond to being locked in a cabin for 48 hours, but I'm pretty sure it would not include rewriting the U.S. Constitution!

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    In another thread that I made of them a year ago.

    Most people agreed they were LII and SEI.

    The LII is obvious, though the SEI I don't know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    What is the reasoning behind typing Jamie as SLI?
    His obvious Fe-PoLR. If he's not SiTe, then he's NiTe.

    his stiff IJ posture


    He doesn't seem particulary stiff here.

    his eccentricities, his individualistic fashion sense (beret and walrus goatee).
    TiNe's usually don't seem superficially eccentric and usually dress plainly and "normally". Those certainly don't point to TiNe. Only when you know them and start listening to what they say, the may start sounding "eccentric".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    His obvious Fe-PoLR. If he's not SiTe, then he's NiTe.
    What makes you say he has Fe-PoLR rather than Fe-DS? It doesn't seem obvious to me, but I might be missing something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    TiNe's usually don't seem superficially eccentric and usually dress plainly and "normally". Those certainly don't point to TiNe. Only when you know them and start listening to what they say, the may start sounding "eccentric".
    TiNe types dress conservatively, yes, because they're not very confident in the use of Si and don't like to draw attention to it. But their fashion sense can be influenced by their Ne ("You know, a beret seems like a neat idea"), which sometimes results in a subtly individualistic look. Y'know, like Jamie.

    Also, like I said before, SLIs don't typically draft new versions of the U.S. constitution for fun. That indicates Ti system building coupled with Ne abstraction, to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khola View Post
    The hot chick gets to be SEI because I said so. Also I agree with the above.
    Kari Byron, and yes she is totally Si ISFp <3
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    The only guy with a stiff posture in that picture is the asian on the left.
    And what about rewriting the US constitution is system building? Don't SLIs build things also?
    The saddest ESFj

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    Quote Originally Posted by fear of sleep View Post
    And what about rewriting the US constitution is system building? Don't SLIs build things also?
    By analogy, me being a maths/physics nut is what sort of argument for IEE? A bad one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    What makes you say he has Fe-PoLR rather than Fe-DS? It doesn't seem obvious to me, but I might be missing something.
    Whenever Adam is fooling around, Hyneman's reaction is:"all right, fun is over, let's get serious and move on". That type of fun is exactly what TiNe's Fe-DS seeks, since it's basically Ne+Fe.
    ...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    Kari Byron seems ESFj rather than ISFp to me.
    Agreed. I think her in-show persona is just that. A persona.

    There's one shot of her in a business suit looking very serious indeed, but I can't seem to find it anywhere any more

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    Kari Byron seems ESFj rather than ISFp to me.
    okay, why?

    (Si ESFj could be a nice typing actually, but what are your reasons?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolanzon View Post
    Agreed. I think her in-show persona is just that. A persona.

    There's one shot of her in a business suit looking very serious indeed, but I can't seem to find it anywhere any more
    Personas dont really matter. Your type will leak through any role you try to play.

    Whilst I agree that many ESFj's can be serious business (especially Fe ESFj 3w2!), I think a shot of her in a business suit is silly for typing purposes (but ur prolly jokin right!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Personas dont really matter. Your type will leak through any role you try to play.
    Try me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Whilst I agree that many ESFj's can be serious business (especially Fe ESFj 3w2!), I think a shot of her in a business suit is silly for typing purposes (but ur prolly jokin right!)
    Correction: she was in a business suit. She also had *srs faes* on.

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    Like now for instance, you have switched to an IEE persona, howeveverererererre you can't manage to stop being so goddamn Fe valuing and its embedded in everything you maketh.

    Seriousness is not type related and if it was than being serious in one instnce is no correlation so stop being a sill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolanzon View Post
    Try me.
    *ahem* didn't mean in terms of type.

    Correction then: try Johnny Depp. That might be a bit of an exaggeration since he's a professional actor and all.

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    Johnny Depp floats around Gamma.

    And to clarify, I'm speaking of something more subtle. Like, "Hmm he said all the right things, but the delivery was totally off. Just didnt feel right."

    You could mimic energy levels (temperament) and maybe stereotypical traits, but the actual essence of that type will be missing and the observer will notice in some way.
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    ah i c.

    Yes ENTp would not blow my mind either.

    Well we know shes Alpha at least!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Whenever Adam is fooling around, Hyneman's reaction is:"all right, fun is over, let's get serious and move on". That type of fun is exactly what TiNe's Fe-DS seeks, since it's basically Ne+Fe.
    Having recently viewed a couple of episodes of Mythbusters (including the Cabin Fever one), I can see where you're coming from. To be honest, he's so inexpressive that it's hard to get a read on what is going on inside his head, and the format of Mythbusters doesn't give a lot of opportunity for personality analysis. An in-depth Charlie Rose style interview would probably make things clearer (Charlie Rose = God's greatest gift to celebrity typers everywhere. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    I guess she just seems really extroverted to me.
    Not that you're wrong, but everyone seems extroverted on that show. They're all making use of their extroverted elements. It's a TV show that conducts scientific experiments. However that doesn't mean there is no evidence of introverted elements, I just think the show captures more of the extroversion, so she could still be an Fe-SEI.

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    After watching this video again, I remembered why I type her as Si ISFp.

    This is based partly on my experiences with people like her (not much use to you guys), but also on her sorta shy demeanor, general relaxedness, and mostly down played movements. Idk the relaxed-adaptive Ip temperament seems to fit much better than a more motivated Ej type. I think she's more comfortable on mythbusters with all the Alphas and she is more "extraverted" there. However, Si ESFj is my second choice.
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    She strikes me as more ESE-ish in that video. If I didn't know anything about socionics and saw that video, I would have called her an extravert.

    Also: do SEIs do a lot of world travelling? That seems like a more typically ESE activity to me, but obviously there could be exceptions.

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    Well do we mean "object focused" by extravert or "socially open and gregarious/interactive"?

    Now there is some correlation true, but I've always felt the latter was unreliable in typing and seems pretty characteristic for an ISFp anyways, especially one on a talk show.

    I dont think world travelling is type related

    world domination maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Well do we mean "object focused" by extravert or "socially open and gregarious/interactive"?

    Now there is some correlation true, but I've always felt the latter was unreliable in typing and seems pretty characteristic for an ISFp anyways, especially one on a talk show.

    I dont think world travelling is type related

    world domination maybe.
    That's true, I would have been referring to "socially open and gregarious/interactive". I don't have much in the way of logic to back up an ESE typing, just intuition mostly.

    Then again, maybe we're both just wanting to see our duals in her.

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    lol yeah probs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    His obvious Fe-PoLR. If he's not SiTe, then he's NiTe.
    +1
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