Eyes:
Dreamy: physically unfocused, environmentally detached, emotionally intense.
Whatcha' think Willis?
Visual Identification: Ni & "The Dreamy Look"
Dreamy: physically unfocused, environmentally detached, emotionally intense.
Whatcha' think Willis?
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Hmm, I got the opposite impression of Ni eyes, I know people talked about it some time ago. I always thought they would rather look passive and 'knowing'. In a way of stoically indifference.Originally Posted by Ashton
I generally don't perceive
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Is this Nicolas Cage? These eyes remind me of him.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
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Ah, okay. Now that I look at pictures of Cage, I see a difference. What do you think about William Fichtner? Does he have the Ni look?
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Sure does. I've had him down as Ni-ENFj for awhile.
Cool.
And what do you think of those?
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Ne/Si-valuing introvert I would guess. It's a bit dark though on my screen.Cool.
And what do you think of those?
Those are mine.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Oh, I thought your eyes were blue? At least for some reason my memory says they were.Those are mine.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
I don't think you can say something reliable about someone's eyes on a picture.
Though in real life you can see the difference fairly easy between Sensing (landing their eyes) and Intuition (looking but not seeying)
They tend to be what I automatically try to interpret, instead of backing up and looking at the "bigger picture" if you will. I guess they stand out more/are more interesting to me. I'm really starting to get a feel forvs
quadra eyes, because the feeling notions in eyes, versus the other 3, seem to stick out well.
I think these are a few good contrasting examples.
It will take a beginner in VI some time to get used to the difference:
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Looks like Brad Pitt.
Ni eyes almost always strike me subjectively as sad, usually objectively as detached, glassy.
For some reason I am often attracted to "Ni eyes" more than "Se eyes," which often feel more just plain and direct, and not infrequently have a sharpness in them, although some have a kind of softness. Ne eyes often strike me as having this casual but anxious lightness feeling in them. No real pattern with Si eyes except that LSEs usually look super sterile.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
To me, Ni eyes tend to come across as an intense blankness of sorts. It's like there's a tension about them but I can't tell what it's focused on, so it can feel like just being tense without any necessity for it. This trait seems visible in the Ni-ENFj type composite I made, but I should probably get more Ni-type mashes to further illustrate this point.
The bottom two (bottom of left column and bottom of right column) and the top two in the left column look Ni to me. Although, the top one in the left column actually seems instinctively Se more than Ni, but still looks like it contains much Ni.
What did you think?
Nice stuff.xxx
@No Longer a Dating Site & Ashton: Yeah, that's what I was trying to put out here! Right on. I was gonna put one for each IM, but it looks like it took off from here. Next one was gonna bewhich to me looks more "piercing" yet almost blank.
That's funny. Although I've got to ask an IEI who's lost in thought what it is that she's thinking of (the ones I know are all female) it's still quite obvious to me that the wheels in her head are turning. And it's generally also plain for me to read her emotional state from posture and other bodily cues.
From the other side, all the IEIs I've gone out with have complained that I can spontaneously erect a wall between us without warning and "disappear" before their eyes. Although I'll bust up laughing if an absurd image or sudden epiphany comes to mind, my usual expression while ruminating is a fixed frown. Because of this and the fact that I'm often described as intense or even forbidding (the latter by those who don't know me well), my gaze may appear distracted but probably not especially dreamy.
@LostInDreams these look like your avatar, assuming that is your pic
Dreamy: physically unfocused, environmentally detached, emotionally intense.
another example: this guy posted this pic as an example of Ni stare. his eyes look relaxed and apathetic, looking through the object rather than directly at it.
I'll bite.
Pfft.
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
It is indeed myself on my avatar.@LostInDreams these look like your avatar, assuming that is your pic
another example: this guy posted this pic as an example of Ni stare. his eyes look relaxed and apathetic, looking through the object rather than directly at it.
Thanks for the insight.
I don't generally buy into the whole VI thing, but I do think there is something to the Ni eyes thing. I've never met an Ni dom who didn't have that far off gaze (including myself).
Flicker back and forth between unfocused & unattentive to the surroundings. and Hyper focused and completely receptive to their surrounding stimuli. (Ni/Se Valued)
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
S-something, your eyes are directly focused 'fixed' on something which by this v.i. by demonstrative functions would mean a sensing type lookI'll bite.
some pics i've put together for the Ni "look"
keywords: unfocused, diffuse, detached, distant, dissolving/annulling, tired, world-weary, unamused, transfixed/mesmerized.
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@silke
Ha, funny. My eyesight's poor so it never feels like my eyes are fixed on anything, which is why I'm sometimes caught off guard when I look at my reflection, or a photo. They can be pretty piercing.
The way I look at Ni eyes is that they are eyes that aren't "present" in a way that Se eyes are. That is probably because they aren't interested in focusing on their environment in the same way as an Se user would be. The mind is what is actively searching, not the eyes. The mind also wouldn't have the same reaction to visual stimuli and would appear a little slower in response times, unless the Ni user is specifically trying to focus on visual cues. This can be tiring though and is not likely to be sustained.
Identifying it in someone is entirely subjective though and many Ni eyes just look like they belong to an introverted person in general. I think intuitive people can be found to have a more zoned out look, but zoning out is something that most introverts get caught doing, so the line is quite blurry between introverts that prefer sensing and those that prefer intuiting, although I would expect INxxs to be the most zoned. Again, too much subjectivity here. So we may have to look at something like frequency and duration in people to gain cues that they aren't much paying attention to their environment. At this point it would be much more efficient to just have them take a test and try and identify with one of the types, but as many of us have found out, this isn't necessarily reliable either.
I think the best way is to see what occupies a person's mind most of the time. This is not an easy task and is time consuming, but it would be the most reliable in the long run. In other words, find out what the person likes to think about as a starting point. Celebrity typing is only useful if there are enough genuine interviews where they are asked numerous questions about a variety of different topics. I think those would be difficult to come by.
Personally, I place very little stock in visual typing.
there is one set of Se eyes here, i wonder if anyone can tell whichsome pics i've put together for the Ni "look"
keywords: unfocused, diffuse, detached, distant, dissolving/annulling, tired, world-weary, unamused, transfixed/mesmerized.
S-something, your eyes are directly focused 'fixed' on something which by this v.i. by demonstrative functions would mean a sensing type look
some pics i've put together for the Ni "look"
keywords: unfocused, diffuse, detached, distant, dissolving/annulling, tired, world-weary, unamused, transfixed/mesmerized.
this?
also:
this looks like Si-ego vaguely.
top row, left?
count?
Only 3 sets of those eyes looked particularly "dreamy" to me.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
No dirty brown-eyed people accepted among Ni folk
No dirty brown-eyed people accepted among Ni folk
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
not sure what you mean, but if we start counting from the top left, then 1
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