Meh I hate being VI'd, but here's some random assortment of pictures, most of them are from vacations with my family and such, the span about the last 5 years or so.
I'm interesting in VI opinions
Official VI Lucid Thread...
Meh I hate being VI'd, but here's some random assortment of pictures, most of them are from vacations with my family and such, the span about the last 5 years or so.
I'm interesting in VI opinions
Is that a Grumman Hellcat in the last picture? Cool.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
yea that was at an airshow, I have a lot of pictures of WWII aircraft.Originally Posted by MegaDoomer
INFp would be my guess but I really don't know.
Infantile + EP = ILE/ENTp
P.S. I knew that was you the first time you put these pictures up.And I know a lot of people said IEI, but I don't see any
look on you. You almost look like MegaDoomer, except he looks more like he will destroy you by looking at you—in comparison to you—where you will destroy someone walking away from their explosion; like the last picture minus the airfield.
Choose your destiny:
I agree with ENTp seeming like the best fit. Not sure about subtype.
It's funny how ILE can seem kind of IEI-ish. There's a sweetness/shyness about some ENTps, so I can understand why people would go there in typing you, but it seems pretty off if I try to think of you as IEI.
You remind me quite a bit of my son (though he's only seven), who's probably ILE-Ne. And I wondered at first if he might be IEI, but that type also doesn't work for him. Things I see in your photos that remind me of ENTp: loose-limbed, earnest/pure demeanor, very clear/frank look in your gaze, shape of the head, shape of the lips--and the kind of movement that the still pix imply overall.
See this thread where I asked for help in typing my child:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...olden+son+entp
Since then, with further observation and understanding, his type as ENTp has become increasingly obvious to me.
LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
lolwut?
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
lolyup.lolwut?
It's the Alpha NT-look.
P.S. Lucid, this reminded me of some the old pictures of mine. I have nearly the same exact expressions and moments as you.
I think you bear a slight resemblance to Mountain Dew.
lol this is win.
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LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
Lol yea I did notice you were the only one who said ILE, it was funny to see what people said and pretend like it was someone else.Infantile + EP = ILE/ENTp
P.S. I knew that was you the first time you put these pictures up.
Yea, I'm not 100% sweet/shy... I just decided to post up pictures that are more positive/friendly, I have some were I look more badass or angry or sad or just like an idiot... but I didn't want to seem intimidating/emo/stupid.
Also a lot of the ones I posted up are from family vacations and so forth, so generally its when someone's taking a picture of me and I'm smiling and stuff.
Interesting, although really the ENTp type is defined by thefunction and specifically Ne + Thinking.
Lol, maybe its the haircut... which btw I don't like that much, my parents are very big on the clean cut thing... so I've had that haircut forever. My mom's a neat freak ISTj and my dad's an ex-military a-10 pilot... so they indoctrinated me early on as a child to make my appearance very clean cut, although I really think clean cut looks shitty lol.
What I said in the other thread.
Also, you remind me of this guy I used to take some classes with.
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1530/banbc.png
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2388/bban.png
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I know some pictures, I recall that me and some ppl VI'd you as SLI, right?
You look like Scandinavian or something.
hld doesn't look the way that i thought he did, but somehow he does too, now that i've seen him.
he's good people either way.
Yea most of my heritage is German/Irish, more German than Irish, so typical Northern European thing probably.You look like Scandinavian or something
I get that a lot for some strange reason
Makes sense, yeah. You slightly reminded me of a Norwegian singer, that's why I said Scandinavian
As you said that your mother is LSI, is that her on the right, in the 5th picture?
Edit: in fact you said that some pictures are with your family, so there's no doubt now, I guess
Yea that's her, but I'm probably going to have to remove those pictures after some time.As you said that your mother is LSI, is that her on the right, in the 5th picture?
Edit: in fact you said that some pictures are with your family, so there's no doubt now, I guess
My thoughts exactly.
Oh come on, what's going to happen if people see them? I think she's a really good example of LSI VI, even more stereotypical than Ingrid Newkirk, IMO.
I much prefer Bittersweet Samba myself.Deltas like this?
Ignore the first few seconds
Actually when I first saw him link Spanish Flea I kinda cringed and thought "ew no way"
Then it turned out I'd been listening to it for 15 minutes straight.
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When I hear that song, I think of two old people dancing in a retirement home cafeteria.
ILE totally works. You look a lot like this guy I just met who is probably
You look nice. I thought you self-typed as LII, but you don't really look LII. They're right-you look more ILE.
Just kidding...you're a rational type, most likely LSI.
And, I'm not kidding.
Is your dad your dual? Your mom is LSI so your dad has to be your dual.
Makes sense, yeah. You slightly reminded me of a Norwegian singer, that's why I said Scandinavian
As you said that your mother is LSI, is that her on the right, in the 5th picture?
Edit: in fact you said that some pictures are with your family, so there's no doubt now, I guess
WOW both are the same type. Perfect.
Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I don't think he's ILE, though I did and also VI-wise one could say that.
First and foremost the greatest difference between HLD and anything that's ILE is that he doesn't generate conclusions. Rather the opposite, he deconstructs any down to an amorphous array of inconclusive spare facts. Like someone who tells some stories, leisure time maybe, in fact it's annoying to me to observe that he asks questions but later emerges that he had no interest to find something, but rather some sort of voyeurism into what opinions people have on a certain subject. Pretty clearly Ne, but definitely Fi, if you ask me.
Also, there's this Fi-is thing that I find at least laughable, making internal associations between "evil" things. For instance, that time he heard that killer experienced lucid dreams, he suggested that maybe he should change his username. There's also this ass-shit (no offense intended, a metaphor for great fear) about supposed evil eyes seeing his mother. There are more of such things that I observed along the time, IIRC - anti ILE at least.
Furthermore, ILEs understand each other in basically any circumstance, at most one can ignore what the other claims because he's preoccupied with something more important.
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So please anyone, esp Maritsa, stop this circus of establishing that he's ILE based on some pictures.
First couple of pictures I wanted to say LSI... but then I looked closely at the eyes, and I realized that intuitive is more likely, and ILE is actually a pretty good fit by VI.
Also, I only clicked onto this thread to see if you look like your online persona. Some people look exactly like I'd imagine them looking and others don't.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...
I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
Lol, it's a VI thread, though.
LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
Lol, I do generate conclusions... I just don't make an effort to push them on people with differing conclusions, so sometimes I'll just collect opinions and keep my judgments and conclusions internally. Pushing conclusions causes drama and most of the time it isn't worth it, if I feel I understand things well enough, then why should I go to any effort to explain it to someone unwilling to listen.
Lol associations between "evil" things, what they hell are you talking about.
I was halfway joking... you obviously took that incredibly serious, I know that just because the killer happened to experience lucid dreams doesn't mean that experiencing lucid dreams is "evil". It was more the media was trying to portray the killer as "detached from reality" because he experienced lucid dreams, and I thought it could potentially roll over into hysteria... the same way people used to assume that if you played shooting games it would roll over into you become a columbine-esque school shooter. None of that is true fundamentally, but people still believe it because they are ignorant. I was cynically joking about my name. I didn't actually think it was "evil"... wow way to misunderstand me.
Lol no, I don't care if you see my mother... but I didn't have her permission to post the pictures online, and generally if you post pictures without someones permission it can cause drama and conflict -- I don't have to go as deep as determining whether its "good" or "evil", the point is it can potentially cause problems and such. Generally I'm wondering why YOU are making such a big deal out of it.
In general, all these supposed things you attribute to me making associations between "evil" things... are completely different. To me they are merely anticipations of negative events that could happen... they are no more "evil" to me than it's evil for your tire to go flat. I'll anticipate the potential for something negative to happen like a tire going flat, and then choose to bring along a spare tire... it's ridiculous to make the jump to saying I have associated flat tires with "evil". I mean just because the negative anticipation is in social terms and deals with people doesn't all of a sudden make these negative events "evil" or anything... I think you could be severely projecting -- which is my conclusion, just so I can point that out to you.
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you're highly categorical in your frame of presentation and thought, theis very clear. And, you have Se type of energy and movement, too.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Why would an Ne, particularly Ne base be overtly concerned about generating conclusions? Isn't that the antithesis of Ne? Everything I've read about Ne defines it as seeking potentialities and "constantly studying underlying phenomena", the constancy implying that it doesn't tend to be drawn to definitiveness, at least not as a priority
I'd think that it'd be more unlikely for an LII to leave their inquiries for whatever reason but I don't see why that would be odd for an ILE. Perhaps it's a subtype thing, idk, but this just sounds like prioritizing Ne over Ti, but not clearly devaluing TiLike someone who tells some stories, leisure time maybe, in fact it's annoying to me to observe that he asks questions but later emerges that he had no interest to find something, but rather some sort of voyeurism into what opinions people have on a certain subject. Pretty clearly Ne, but definitely Fi, if you ask me.
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That's actually the point. It's a VI thread and should not establish a typing.
It is not about pushing anything, you can generate conclusions but you actually don't. Besides, you make too much appeal to this moral shit when you argue (esp projecting), like this crap about "pushing conclusions" or the next paragraph I'll quote where you misrepresent what I wrote claim that I made those assumptions.
But fine, you had way too much time to generate a very important conclusion: what's your type? One word, let's hear it.
I'm talking about what I exemplified in the same paragraph, you passive-aggressive freak.
(I know you think you're smart trying to annoy me, I just hate to waste my time "discussing" with a dumb-ass who can't/doesn't want to say anything constructive)
---@the others: see, what I was talking about. He has this "art" of saying absurd bullshit claims which is exactly what makes a Ti-Creative mad. I bet hkkmr, who despises him completely, felt the same thing.
To be Introverted Logic Creative and say such things make absolutely no sense. HLD is not ILE.
That correlation was really ridiculous. Besides, what do yo care "how people see" these things, how they judge the political correctness of what you relate to? What if "people assume" or "the media portrayed", these are the most stupid arguments. If the people's prejudices make you get out of your way - unless your life is in danger, maybe not even so if you really care about justice - than you either have a big mental problem/trauma or you're not an ILE.
I doubt that someone seriously associated you with the killer, though if it happened, you should rejoice: you found a potentially stupid acquaintance - one more brick in the building of knowledge. It makes no sense to me avoiding the facts and presenting to people where they have mistaken, but conform to these prejudices so that you appear a good boy, or whatever you had in mind.
You are right, about the endless seeking of ILEs, but not about definitiveness. ILEs are not categorical in the sense that once they found the conclusion they never change their mind, but I'm talking about these steps in their endless conquest for the truth, those "I found it! I found it!", you know? Don't confuse conclusions with resoluteness - also "discovery" is not a word I could use because it excludes the analytical nature of ILE findings.
You focused exclusively on Ne, but did not considered Ti as well, the Creative function of the ILE. Also, ILEs are known to come and share the insights with everyone, while what he said - "keep for myself" - is inconsistent with that.
I don't acknowledge these subtype systems, so I don't know about the case of prioritizing Ne so much to appear some sort of IEE. Or something? Normally, what you say I type IEE, and IMO that's the correct typing in classical Socionics, because "deprioritizing" Ti so much, up to that level of disinterest in its aspects, is rather weak Ti (all types use all IEs) - that's how actually "weak Xy" is detected, which I also did.
ILEs listen to and tell (maybe more speaking than listening
Alpha introvert is my best guess.
It'd be helpful in typing you if you wrote a bit about yourself.
How is psychological projection "moral shit"... lol?
Lol I don't need to tell you, what a blatantly loaded question... fuck off.
Lol what is this? You sound like you should be standing on a pulpit trying to denounce me. Honestly to be frank, my sociotype isn't really that important to me, so choose one of 16 types for me and see if I care, it will have little influence over my real life.
Classy, way to keep your cool.
I could ask the same thing to you, are you not engaged in a topic that is essentially about how "I see things" or how "Maritsa sees things".... maybe I'll get around to answering your question when you can answer it yourself, until then I'm not wasting my time.
Apparently its faux pas for me to say your projecting, but apparently its completely justified for you to characterize me as a dumb-ass, passive aggressive, and have a mental problem. But merely me suggesting, you could be projecting... that's "moral shit"... hahaha wow.
As for you thinking I'm not ILE, that's nice...
Anything else you'd like to add?
What are you saying? This is very inarticulately communicated, are you saying that I'm conforming to prejudices to appear a "good boy"? That isn't at all true, my goal in life is authenticity and not being a "good boy", in fact that characterization makes me want to puke. Now unless you have anything new to say, I'd suggest you leave or say it.
I get that you're not my biggest fan and think I am not ILE, I heard you, and frankly I'm not interesting in discussing it further as I don't see productive discussion coming from this.
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In looking at your photos, peter811m came to mind ( www.youtube.com/peter811m )
Most of his stuff is really creative and (alpha) fun, but his vlog is revealing as far as INTjs go. (I believe him to be INTj... For him, INFp is a more remote possibility, I think.)
I can see ILE
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant
--> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
Then I'm blaming the 73273276823678 kms between us for distorting understanding.
HLD: we look alike, both in terms of ethnicity and Socionics type.
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
That was part of my point, yeah. Thanks for confirming. As you maybe observed and read in the descriptions, ILEs are likely the most curious and investigative type. I hope you agree that to be an ILE, being aware of Socionics and not being curious what your own type is, sounds rather inconceivable.
LOL, an "ILE" challenged to state his opinion on a matter replying with "I don't need to tell you".
Why not, am I bad, am I evil, is that hurtful, does it matter if it's hurtful, did I corner you, or what's the matter? We can't even have a reasonable discussion without you mixing your feelings in and the point is that you appear to have Super-Ego Ti, feeling threatened when you're framed into stating your opinion clear-cut.
Say no more.
Looking back, I can barely understand what your problem was and why you quarreled for. You apparently felt attacked when I began discussing your personality, like it was some sort of taboo, taking expressions literally out of context (eg "never drawing conclusions" not the way I meant it) and defending against these imaginary assaults.
Apart from typing you as a Te valuer, I was talking about ILEs in general (Identity relationship type). What is your point?
I'm anxious to see your pictures, you previously said different stories, that your friends compare you to Feynman for example, now you look like HLD, I'm very curious in how you look.
For the record, HLD doesn't remind me of Feynman at all.
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