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    Some say INFP but that's hard to believe.
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    Most typology sources say ENFj, even though that may not be any easier to be believe.

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    I read ENTJ somewhere.
    Well I am back. How's everyone? Don't have as much time now, but glad to see some of the old gang are still here.

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    Is that what Se-hidden agenda is all about? Ruling and dominating, killing and conquering? Because that's an important part of his life and he was typed both ENFj and ENTj.
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    If it means anything at all,

    1.) We (the forum) have tried this before

    2.) My input: Sergei Gannin said something along the lines of Hitler creating his own symbols (hint hint = or ). He also lacked internal empathy ( ?, ? Lack of ? or )

    3.) About the hidden agenda thing, how can you distinguish between obsessive compulsive and narcissistic when it comes to world domination?

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    When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."
    Adolf Hitler

    A considerable number of types have been proposed for Hitler.
    I have retired from the discussion.
    "Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
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    A clear-cut ENFj. No clearest ENFj around.
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Have you read Speer's autobiography?
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    A definite ENFj
    ENTj - intuitive subtype - 8w9, sp/sx

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    You guys just guessing or you have proof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNTp
    You guys just guessing or you have proof?
    My opinion is based upon reading the report on the psychological profile of Hitler by a Harvard psychologist in the 40's.
    ENTj - intuitive subtype - 8w9, sp/sx

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNTp
    You guys just guessing or you have proof?
    There is no "proof" of someone's Socionics type, much less of a historical figure. However, arguments in favor of a typing can be made.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidos
    Quote Originally Posted by iNTp
    You guys just guessing or you have proof?
    My opinion is based upon reading the report on the psychological profile of Hitler by a Harvard psychologist in the 40's.
    You mean this? http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu/donovan/hitler/

    Hitler is most likely an iNTj. He got the perfect race idea from iNTp coon and organized, planned and implemented it to "dominate" the world and keep his race pure.

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    @iNTp

    Please spend some time reading old threads, in order to understand what Socionics is all about, rather than pretend you know everything already just after arriving here.

    Again, have fun learning about Socionics, but please do not assume you know it just because you know something of MBTI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Have you read Speer's autobiography?


    I have. He was a logical type, most likely introverted... Beyond that I am not actually sure what his type was. I also try to abstain from the intertype relations. World is too complex and socionics too messy for that theory.

    But nevertheless, listen to his interview on the BBC web archive:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/audioin.../speera1.shtml


    Besides he lied through his teeth in the Nuremberg trials - and got away with it. ISTJs cannot lie that well. And, yes, generally you control your second function better than your first. The second function is what you can do. The first function is what you are.
    "Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
    ISTJs cannot lie that well.
    That is an statement I fully disagree with.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    Lol, Speer is the most ISTj ever. If you deny it, case closed
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Lol, Speer is the most ISTj ever. If you deny it, case closed
    Fine then.
    We shall have to wait for some second opinions.

    EDIT
    You could be right of course. :wink:
    Speer is not the main point.
    "Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
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    Well for what it's worth, I seem to recall that Speer said something like, Hitler had no real friends, but if he did have a friend, it was him, Speer.

    So assuming that normal socionics dynamics also worked with Hitler, then Speer should have been of Hitler's quadra, or something like semi-dual or illusion.

    Something interesting about Hitler as ENFj -- Eva Braun seemed to have been ISFp. So Hitler had his supervisor as mistress (and wife).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
    And Hitler did not really care very deeply for her, she was probably partly maintained exactly to ward off rumors of homosexuality.
    Such rumors were already going on at the time? I really don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iNTp
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidos
    Quote Originally Posted by iNTp
    You guys just guessing or you have proof?
    My opinion is based upon reading the report on the psychological profile of Hitler by a Harvard psychologist in the 40's.
    You mean this? http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu/donovan/hitler/

    Hitler is most likely an iNTj. He got the perfect race idea from iNTp coon and organized, planned and implemented it to "dominate" the world and keep his race pure.
    Actually, the 'perfect race' idea developed from numerous sources since the French revolution as a result of a way to control the population. People were getting ideas that the Government was not happy with, and deportation was a way to deal with it and later actual Genecide towards those who had no other place to go.

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    I claim hitler. he is socionic eNTp and MBIT iNTp.

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    It turns out Albert Speer was ENTP.
    Makes perfect sense actually.
    "Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Such rumors were already going on at the time? I really don't know.
    Well, certainly you would have been sent to a concentration camp for spreading such rumors.
    I do not think Hitler was gay, he would not have been half as crazy had that been the case. But in a sense for a man in his position it was/is easier to have a mistress than not to have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Eva Braun seemed to have been ISFp.
    I will agree with this, I first thought she was ESFJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSoul


    When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."
    Adolf Hitler

    You're crazy he's obvsiouly ENFj, I'm not even good at typing and I know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNTp
    I claim hitler. he is socionic eNTp and MBIT iNTp.
    NO WTF


    Grrr...I just thought of this.


    Supposivly he was constantly being medicated for things he didn't really have. And there is a rumor he was injected with an amphetamine type drug everyday for a long time. He was a hypocondriac, among many other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSoul


    It turns out Albert Speer was ENTP.
    Makes perfect sense actually.
    Please, please please stop spreading false informations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSoul


    It turns out Albert Speer was ENTP.
    Makes perfect sense actually.
    Please, please please stop spreading false informations.

    <3333

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    ENTp for hitler. He was charming, but cold.
    Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
    I do not think Hitler was gay, he would not have been half as crazy had that been the case. But in a sense for a man in his position it was/is easier to have a mistress than not to have one.
    Well, the problem with that explanation is that only his inner circle was even aware of Eva Braun's existence; she wasn't a public figure, so any concerns about being gay among the general public - if he had any - would not be solved by that.

    Since he had also had his odd relationship with his niece Geli, I find it more likely that Eva Braun did fulfill an emotional need of some sort; now as to why it should have been a supervisor, no idea. But from what I have observed of ISFp-ENFj interactions at work, with the ENFj as boss, it's not necessarily obviously bad.
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    this is my last time looking at this thread i cant stand all the different opinions on hitlers type especially since im sure im right. some sound so outlandish as well.


    *goes crazy*

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    Hitler seems to me INFJ* or ENFJ

    *credits CuriousSoul
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    God Bless Aurora, I think she was right.
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    What about INFP for HItler?

    I think I am right with this one!
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    Hmm, you do change your mind a lot.
    I think I am done with Hitler.
    It is not possible to know much for sure in socionics anyway.
    "Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
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    I decided to watch his videos, and they seem INFP, a very distorted version thereoff.

    However I should thank you endlessly for making it clear that Hitler was not ENTJ.

    What type do you think is Europe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    What type do you think is Europe?
    Do you mean the continent?
    Can it be typed?
    Alpha NT probably.
    "Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
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    Yes the continent, they say that the United States are ENTJ. I was wondering about Europe.

    Alpha NT is possible, why would you say that? What about Gamma?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    Yes the continent, they say that the United States are ENTJ. I was wondering about Europe.

    Alpha NT is possible, why would you say that? What about Gamma?
    I thought the spirit of open discussion and scientific discovery could fit Alpha better. But what would it actually mean to say that a continent could have a type? How would it manifest?
    "Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
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