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    I was pointed in the direction of this site earlier today:
    http://www.faceresearch.org/
    It allows you to create "average" faces by compiling several different photos of faces together. Ananke suggested someone do this for specific sociotypes, so I thought I'd try it out. It takes a lot of work to do, so I only did two averages (male and female) for two different types.

    Without looking at the filenames, see if any specific types are discernible from these:





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    I couldn't tell what they were supposed to be and ended up clicking on the file names, lol.

    I wonder if this photomashing actually averages out traits such that it's harder, not easier, to discern type. These faces look really bland and characterless to me.

    Cool idea, all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden View Post
    I wonder if this photomashing actually averages out traits such that it's harder, not easier, to discern type. These faces look really bland and characterless to me.

    Cool idea, all the same.
    That seems very likely. The more you average faces out the more 'character' and individuality they lose. I would say that there are definitely some noticeable differences between the two type-mashes, although it may be hard to tell their specific types nonetheless.

     
    FWIW, the two top photos do seem very IP and the bottom two do seem EJ.
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    I'll guess ISTj (top, dunno why) and ENFj (bottom, since the dude looks like Dennis Hopper).

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    Actually the more I look at them, the more I see them as actually representing the types of their composite people. I should do more of these. Later.
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    That site is great for creeping out your S.O with what your future baby will look like.

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    btw you can check the filenames for each of the pictures to see what types they're made up of.
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    Haha, then I just suck at this, then. (No shock!)

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    Two more. Both are the same type; the male one seems a lot more obvious than the female one.



    Again, the biggest trouble is simply finding good straight-on photos of the types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Lol, the ♀ one actually stuck out to me 1st.
    Oh good, that means something is being done right, haha.

    If anybody wants to help out, the best thing you can help me do is find good straight-on face photos of people, preferably with neutral expressions. Just finding those photos takes up the most time for me.

    EDIT: for those of you too lazy to look at the filenames, the OP first two photos are Te-ISTp, the second two are Ni-ENFj.
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    You've inspired me, Galen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Two more. Both are the same type; the male one seems a lot more obvious than the female one.
    Helen Hunt's type. (Did you use her as one of the faces?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by April View Post
    Helen Hunt's type. (Did you use her as one of the faces?)
    Her and Florence Welch and Jayne Brook and Martina Navratilova and a few others.
    Oh Pearl Aday too, you can really see her in that composite I think.

    Okay the face masher thing is down atm, so the next one will have to wait a while
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    I have a bunch of these, where I merged all the photos of each type from the gallery, to where you couldn't really make out what people they were comprised of. Never got around to putting them online. I used www.morphthing.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    I have a bunch of these, where I merged all the photos of each type from the gallery, to where you couldn't really make out what people they were comprised of. Never got around to putting them online. I used www.morphthing.com
    Hmm, this isn't too bad of an alternative. I just don't like how you can only use four photos at a time. Kinda want to see howthe results I get from there differ from what I get on faceresearch (the face masher is -still- down).

    Quote Originally Posted by ananke View Post
    Wow... it works! I wonder if it would still work if you mashed a million photos, but probably it would.
    I would love to be able to do a mash of maybe a dozen or more people at a time, but that just takes too much work. There's also the problem of simply finding people of a certain type with good photos (finding female Ti-INTjs is gonna be a blast). The more people of one type you get into one consolidation the more that specifically type-relevant facial traits are seen and the less random variations there are.
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    Okay, two more. These feel kind of off to me, not sure why.



    It was really hard to find females of this type for some reason.

    EDIT: Updated the female one with two other faces. Doesn't seem too much different in any case, just blurrier lol.
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    Post some more but don't let us cheat so easily by the filename.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jughead View Post
    Post some more but don't let us cheat so easily by the filename.
    Maybe you should just stop cheating!
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    Four more pics made, don't cheat like jughead



    These both are pretty spot on




    I'd say the female looks more representative than the male here



    Also I airbrushed the glasses off of the Ne-ENTp female.
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    I guessed right on all of these

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    Yay two more!

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    lol Fi-IEE looks like UDP.
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    Couple more

    The male one seems weirdly generic, but the female one is 115% spot on.



    Actually looking back at it, the male one isn't too far off.
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    There's this site where you can make average faces:

    http://www.faceresearch.org/

    Post your average faces here. I know a lot of SEIs, so I made an SEI face. I'm curious to see whether there will be distinguishable differences between the types.

    SEI
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    featuring munenori2!



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    It looks like he was doing that with famous people? These are all people I know.

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    ESE
    5 male, 2 female
    featuring cracka!



    Wow, the eyes really look different. It could be because more of the ESEs were smiling, though.

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    That second pic don't work yo. Try saving it to your account then linking it.

    Also I'm using primarily famous people, but if I need to fill a type out with people on here/people I know then I'll do that. Haven't done that very much though. It shouldn't even matter if they're celebrities or not, so long as they're typed correctly and there are good photos of them it should all come out roughly the same.
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    The main problem with something like this is making sure that every face in the photomash is actually typed correctly. The more mistypes, the more "noise" in the results. So I'm kind of curious as to who the original source images for each are.

    It's not that I don't trust your typings skills, Galen, it's just that I don't 100% trust anyone's typing skills, including my own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    The main problem with something like this is making sure that every face in the photomash is actually typed correctly. The more mistypes, the more "noise" in the results. So I'm kind of curious as to who the original source images for each are.

    It's not that I don't trust your typings skills, Galen, it's just that I don't 100% trust anyone's typing skills, including my own.
    I understand where you're coming from, but this seems to be working really well imo. Sometimes I'll only use half of the faces in a composite and see what results come up, and for the most part those results match up with the final composites very nicely.
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    For the most part, nothing seemed "obvious" to me. I suppose if you go and train yourself to learn the socionix gallery faces, you'd do well.

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    i want to know whose faces were used. Galen do you think you could list the names of the people used in each photomash?

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    Couple more, both of them are pretty good I think.




    The female one makes me smile lol. Maybe it wasn't fair to have so many smiles, but that's where most of the good eye-shots came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    i want to know whose faces were used. Galen do you think you could list the names of the people used in each photomash?
    Shit, I forgot most of the faces I've used for them lol. I could probably try to remember them, but at this stage it's a lot to recall all of the ones I used. Here's a list of a few names I do remember though (this is not an exhaustive list):

    Te-ISTp male: Clint Eastwood, Neil Patrick Harris, Roald Dahl, Brian Adams, Ben Affleck, Brian Eno, Robert Sean Leonard
    Te-ISTp female: Rhona Mitra, Paulina Porizkova, Demi Moore, Jill Hennessey, Jennifer Connolly, Jennifer Garner
    Ni-ENFj male: Dennis Hopper, Sean Connery, Joshua Jackson, Jack Nicholson, Shephard Smith (from Fox News), Bam Margera, Eddie Izzard
    Ni-ENFj female: Jessica Biel, Christina Aguilera, Laura Prepon, Scarlett Johansson, Amanda Palmer
    Fi-ISFj male: Barrack Obama, James Franco, Dave Franco, Michael Grimm (from America's Got Talent), John Francis Daley
    Fi-ISFj female: Helen Hunt, Florence Welch, Katie Cassidy, Pearl Aday, Martina Navratilova
    Ne-ENTp male: John Goodman, Jeff Bridges, Harrison Ford, Bill Murray, Brad Pitt, Jim Gaffigan, Phillip Seymour Hoffman
    Ne-ENTp female: Sandra Bullock, Julia Roberts, Grace Hopper, Olivia Wilde, my friend Sami, my acquaintance Eleanor
    Se-ISTj male: Hugh Laurie, John Malkovich, Daniel Day-Lewis, Michael C. Hall, Seth Green, Gordon Ramsay, Eddie Vedder
    Se-ISTj female: Adrianne Curry, Emily Blunt, Marion Cotillard, Katy Perry, Zooey Deschanel, Lauren Bacall
    Fi-ENFp male: Dane Cook, Jimmy Fallon, David Benoit, Michael J. Fox, Shaun White, myself lol
    Fi-ENFp female: Sarah Silverman, Dakota Fanning, Ricki Lake, Alanis Morissette, Jewel Staite, Lena Meyer-Landrut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Te-ISTp male: Ben Affleck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Shit, I forgot most of the faces I've used for them lol. I could probably try to remember them, but at this stage it's a lot to recall all of the ones I used. Here's a list of a few names I do remember though (this is not an exhaustive list):

    Te-ISTp male: Clint Eastwood, Neil Patrick Harris, Roald Dahl, Brian Adams, Ben Affleck, Brian Eno, Robert Sean Leonard
    Te-ISTp female: Rhona Mitra, Paulina Porizkova, Demi Moore, Jill Hennessey, Jennifer Connolly, Jennifer Garner
    Ni-ENFj male: Dennis Hopper, Sean Connery, Joshua Jackson, Jack Nicholson, Shephard Smith (from Fox News), Bam Margera, Eddie Izzard
    Ni-ENFj female: Jessica Biel, Christina Aguilera, Laura Prepon, Scarlett Johansson, Amanda Palmer
    Fi-ISFj male: Barrack Obama, James Franco, Dave Franco, Michael Grimm (from America's Got Talent), John Francis Daley
    Fi-ISFj female: Helen Hunt, Florence Welch, Katie Cassidy, Pearl Aday, Martina Navratilova
    Ne-ENTp male: John Goodman, Jeff Bridges, Harrison Ford, Bill Murray, Brad Pitt, Jim Gaffigan, Phillip Seymour Hoffman
    Ne-ENTp female: Sandra Bullock, Julia Roberts, Grace Hopper, Olivia Wilde, my friend Sami, my acquaintance Eleanor
    Se-ISTj male: Hugh Laurie, John Malkovich, Daniel Day-Lewis, Michael C. Hall, Seth Green, Gordon Ramsay, Eddie Vedder
    Se-ISTj female: Adrianne Curry, Emily Blunt, Marion Cotillard, Katy Perry, Zooey Deschanel, Lauren Bacall
    Fi-ENFp male: Dane Cook, Jimmy Fallon, David Benoit, Michael J. Fox, Shaun White, myself lol
    Fi-ENFp female: Sarah Silverman, Dakota Fanning, Ricki Lake, Alanis Morissette, Jewel Staite, Lena Meyer-Landrut
    Ah, ok, that's what I thought. The composite faces don't look particularly like my mental picture of the types, because they're based on a list of typings I strongly disagree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkster View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    Ah, ok, that's what I thought. The composite faces don't look particularly like my mental picture of the types, because they're based on a list of typings I strongly disagree with.
    Well then I'd like to see what your mental picture for the various types are. I don't want to argue the individual typings I listed, that just seems like a pointless and exhausting exercise.
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    Lol. This place is such a crusty bastion of non-constructive criticism.
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    I bet they all cheated. You'll never know

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