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    1. Beta is not narrow-mindedness.

    2. Beta is not insensitivity.

    3. Beta is not mind games.

    4. Beta is not warmongering.

    5. Beta is not fascist.

    6. Beta is not better.

    7. Beta is not a lack of real feeling.

    8. Beta is not vulgar.

    9. Beta is not temperamental.

    10. Beta is not the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    1. Beta is not narrow-mindedness.

    2. Beta is not insensitivity.

    3. Beta is not mind games.

    4. Beta is not warmongering.

    5. Beta is not fascist.

    6. Beta is not better.

    7. Beta is not a lack of real feeling.

    8. Beta is not vulgar.

    9. Beta is not temperamental.

    10. Beta is not the problem.
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    Actually Beta is pretty damn Fascist. Or, well, Fascism is sickeningly Beta.

    Also I think a good deal of Betas are temperamental, esp. the extroverts.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Actually Beta is pretty damn Fascist. Or, well, Fascism is sickeningly Beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    1. Beta is not narrow-mindedness.

    2. Beta is not insensitivity.

    3. Beta is not mind games.

    4. Beta is not warmongering.

    5. Beta is not fascist.

    6. Beta is not better.

    7. Beta is not a lack of real feeling.

    8. Beta is not vulgar.

    9. Beta is not temperamental.

    10. Beta is not the problem.
    1) Agreed.
    2) Agreed.
    3) Agreed.
    4) Not sure. The STs tend to be very tactically-minded, and I can possibly see how the NFs try to help others, involve them, possibly 'wage war' on what others believe.
    5) Not sure. For reason, see #4.
    6) Agreed.
    7) Agreed. In fact it's a lot of real feeling.
    8) Agreed... some 'LSIs' on here seem to curse more to act tougher.
    9) Disagree. We tend to be the most temperamental quadra:

    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.socionics.us/theory/quadras.shtml
    Typical Beta quadra group behavior:
    Lengthy, theatrical monologues. Loud, hearty laughter. Importance given to group rituals such as those related to food and drink. Displays of great generosity and inclusion, but with the demand of emotional involvement in group. Rowdiness. Generally theatrical atmosphere, but with periodic moments of "dead seriousness."
    Lots of changes from loud, hearty, laughter, to dead seriousness. That's "temperamental". I know some of my friends call me the most fickle person they know. In good humor, of course. I know I'm very temperamental, and that seems to fit Beta.
    10) Agreed.

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    Concerning #5, I see it more as grandiose emotion compared to "quiet" emotion.

    Also: Creepy! *waves*
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Can a mod move the economic stuff to a new topic so that Ezra's doesn't get completely hijacked?
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    1. Beta is not narrow-mindedness. I consider myself fairly open-minded.

    2. Beta is not insensitivity. I'm highly sensitive to others but sometimes decide I have to pretend I'm not.

    3. Beta is not mind games. Hate mind games, little patience for them.

    4. Beta is not warmongering. Zero warmongering here. That said, if I had to do battle to protect myself, my property, or my loved ones, I'd fight like a cold-blooded demon.

    5. Beta is not fascist. Fascism sux.

    6. Beta is not better. Huh?--of course it's better! Nah. If anything, I struggle with an inferiority complex.

    7. Beta is not a lack of real feeling. True.

    8. Beta is not vulgar. Oh, I sometimes enjoy being vulgar, but most people tend to not know that side of me.

    9. Beta is not temperamental. I am extremely (!) temperamental, but I don't think Betas are the only ones.

    10. Beta is not the problem. Agreed.
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    I would say Beta is over sensitive to some things, under sensitive to other things.

    I'm pretty sure Beta plays games, I find that they engage in a lot of power play in their relationships. It might not be "mind" games, but it's definitely gamesmanship.

    Beta is elitist, for sure.

    Beta are passionate, perhaps even overly so, but often just temporarily so.

    Beta is temperamental, actually the fact that Ezra wrote this post is probably because he got his panties in a wad because of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    1. Beta is not narrow-mindedness.

    2. Beta is not insensitivity.

    3. Beta is not mind games.

    4. Beta is not warmongering.

    5. Beta is not fascist.

    6. Beta is not better.

    7. Beta is not a lack of real feeling.

    8. Beta is not vulgar.

    9. Beta is not temperamental.

    10. Beta is not the problem.
    1. I think beta would seem narrowminded against some elements. But actually we have the clear understanding and view on what roads to take and what to steer away from. Not bunny hopping on every idiotic possiblity. Beta is understanding, not openminded.

    2. Beta is I STATE MY OPINION YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP IF DISAGREE. IF AGREE THEN HAV SECKS. We will appear insensitive towards those who are wrong.

    3.Personally i get my kicks by teasing people. But then again its bad habbit and really goes against my thoughts about caring and trying to show the better light. But its allways such a thrill to be able to get someone become one of your puppets walking through the road you have made. Having total control and able to decide upon theyr faith. This is part of the paradox i am . Humanistic fucker of people. I love them as vehicles of my self expression of deep rooted hatred inmyself, but as long as i keep on bullying people so long it will also eat me alive. So im trying to grasp at the the concepts of oneness and universal love to save me from damnation. I think betas are much more likely to have power games in theyr relationships than the others. I know i feel like having a battle with my estp. Could be us though.

    4. There are alot stuff wrong in the world. And alas all would be easier if certain parts would be cut off. Annihlated and destroyed. So why dont we make a movement and kill the leeches off ?!. We are all gonna feel alot better after it. STOMP ON THEYR BODIES
    Beta is definetly gonna step up- And as there are allways a need for conflict and taking your place. Then there will be fighting. And beta would be most likely quandra here.

    5. Beta is obviously fascistic. There are masses to be guided and leaded. And aristocratism leads to the attitude.

    6.Some self love isnt all that sinfull. Very motivating and streghtening belief. Why not hold onto it ? Beta is needed where are the others too. Some could argue that the emphazise on difference and unequality are destructive forces and i agree.

    7. Beta is real feeling.

    8.We are.

    9.We are.

    10. Most of the other quandras would rather stay put and quiet about the problems and ugliness of the world and the attitude of stating the truth and doing the necessary is what could be seen as trouble making. But they are stupid and indifferent of live, therefore less deserving of it.

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    @hkkmr: Beta is not always elitist. Exclusive, yes; elitist, no.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Beta is not Delta.

    That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    Beta is not Delta.

    That's all.

    This is like the most worthless thing ever. Your presence is making me istj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creep Of a beast View Post
    This is like the most worthless thing ever. Your presence is making me istj.
    I would suggect you reread your post - you have the thought processes of a child.
    Last edited by somavision; 02-23-2011 at 04:29 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creep Of a beast View Post
    @ at Ryene:
    HIHI. <3 <3. Im interested what specifically appeals to you about me ?
    I enjoy needling people, and you seemed like a fun target.

    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    I would suggect you reread your post - you have the thought processes of a child.
    I chuckled. I don't feel like the comment was to be taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    We aren't, and we are.

    BETA IS AN ENIGMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    We aren't, and we are.

    BETA IS AN ENIGMA.
    We have to go deeper.

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    Beta is not Alpha, Gamma, or Delta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    1. Beta is not narrow-mindedness.

    2. Beta is not insensitivity.

    3. Beta is not mind games.

    4. Beta is not warmongering.

    5. Beta is not fascist.

    6. Beta is not better.

    7. Beta is not a lack of real feeling.

    8. Beta is not vulgar.

    9. Beta is not temperamental.

    10. Beta is not the problem.
    I agree... Not every beta is a dick... Most people grow out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    I would suggect you reread your post - you have the thought processes of a child.
    See, this is what I hate about Ne/Si quadras. You say something jocular or boisterous, and they take it as an excuse to intiate passive-aggressive "payback" to balance things out in their psyche or some shit.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Beta is better.. beta is vulgar.. beta is temperamental, they're also pretty fascist and play a ton of mind games. A lack of real feeling.. well everyone lacks a soul nowdays. The rest I duno about.

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    Beta IS fish.



    Which means Beta is not any other beast of the animal kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somavision View Post
    I would suggect you reread your post - you have the thought processes of a child.
    We are all in the sewer and you are as drenched in shit as i am. Want to get lower ?

    Lets create a shit anthem !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    1. Beta is not narrow-mindedness.
    2. Beta is not insensitivity.
    3. Beta is not mind games.
    4. Beta is not warmongering.
    5. Beta is not fascist.
    6. Beta is not better.
    7. Beta is not a lack of real feeling.
    8. Beta is not vulgar.
    9. Beta is not temperamental.
    10. Beta is not the problem.
    Totally agree. Beta is SLI or LSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    See, this is what I hate about Ne/Si quadras. You say something jocular or boisterous, and they take it as an excuse to intiate passive-aggressive "payback" to balance things out in their psyche or some shit.
    On the charge of being passive aggressive in my response, you are correct. For the rest you are mistaken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Creep Of a beast View Post
    We are all in the sewer and you are as drenched in shit as i am. Want to get lower ?

    Lets create a shit anthem !
    take a shower.
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