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    Default Some possible examples of famous/celebrity SLEs-ESTps

    Pompey the Great, Roman warlord



    Caligula, Emperor of Rome 14-37 (but I still think ENTp is also possible)




    Caracalla, Emperor of Rome 211-217



    Richard I Lionheart, King of England

    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    Otto von Bismarck, first Chancellor of Germany's Second Reich (logical subtype)






    Kaiser Wilhelm II, last German Emperor (unbalanced sensory subtype)





    Lenin





    Benito Mussolini







    Helmut Kohl, German Chancellor 1982-98


    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    Donald Trump




    Winnie Mandela





    Robert Mugabe, President of Zimbabwe




    Hugo Chávez, President of Venezuela (or ISTj?)




    Warren Beatty

    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    Pompey the Great, Roman warlord

    Indeed, totally. Even his relationship with Julius Caesar is similar to the relationship I have experienced with ESTps - antagonism in public, but deep-seated admiration (from their side).


    Caligula, Emperor of Rome 14-37 (but I still think ENTp is also possible)

    My guess, if not ESTp, would be ESFp. After all, ESFps with their lack of Ti can indeed have idiotic ideas.

    To every ESFp apologizer: I said CAN HAVE, not actually HAS.



    Caracalla, Emperor of Rome 211-217

    He even looks like an ESTp I know. Spot on IMHO.



    Another interesting thing: Let's compare Lenin and Warren Beatty. Here you have the two extremes of ESTps - the "conquerer" version, and the "conman" version. I personally get along well with those two extreme versions, not so well with everything in between.
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    I have noticed the same thing between ESTPs and ENTJs (benefactory-Ni-stuff).
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    Al Capone

    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    Sean Connery (thanks to FDG for pointing it out)



    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    William Shatner


    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    I notice that all ESTPs have strong, handsome features especially the nose. Most likely dark hair, dark brows, determined lips, stubborn chin...
    INFP

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    Default Re: Some possible ESTps

    Caligula, Emperor of Rome 14-37 (but I still think ENTp is also possible)

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    Do you agree with me then Expat? Do you think he is ESTP?
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    Wasn't what I wrote clear enough?
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    I wasn't thinking of including fictional characters, but since it got started in the INFp thread --

    Here's an ESTp:


    Zapp Brannigan

    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    Ah! Conman subtype.

    Yes, I have my personal subtypes.
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I wasn't thinking of including fictional characters, but since it got started in the INFp thread --

    Here's an ESTp:


    Zapp Brannigan

    Need more of the "fairer" gender, too. And I say "fairer" because you havent met my best friend's beastly sister we all loathe and ignore (as opposed to love and adore...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Wasn't what I wrote clear enough?
    Well, you put him in the ESTP list, so I was wondering What changed your mind? Plus if you put him in the list as an ESTP (Or ENTP) I guess you no longer think it possible that he might be ISTP? Again, what made you change your mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I wasn't thinking of including fictional characters, but since it got started in the INFp thread --

    Here's an ESTp:


    Zapp Brannigan

    100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    Well, you put him in the ESTP list, so I was wondering What changed your mind? Plus if you put him in the list as an ESTP (Or ENTP) I guess you no longer think it possible that he might be ISTP? Again, what made you change your mind?
    *sigh*

    I have never said that Caligula could be ISTp. I have typed Commodus as ISTp. You are simply mistaken.

    On Caligula, originally I thought that he was ESTp, then for a while I thought that ENTp was more likely, but some comments by Dmitri Lytov made me think that ESTp was probably it, although I still think that ENTp is possible.
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    NO ZAPP BRANIGAN!!!


    YES SEAN CONNERY

    YES WILLIAM SHATNER


    NO MUSSOLINI OR WHATEVER

    YES AL CAPONE


    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    Well, you put him in the ESTP list, so I was wondering What changed your mind? Plus if you put him in the list as an ESTP (Or ENTP) I guess you no longer think it possible that he might be ISTP? Again, what made you change your mind?
    *sigh*

    I have never said that Caligula could be ISTp. I have typed Commodus as ISTp. You are simply mistaken.

    On Caligula, originally I thought that he was ESTp, then for a while I thought that ENTp was more likely, but some comments by Dmitri Lytov made me think that ESTp was probably it, although I still think that ENTp is possible.
    MIstaken identity, too little coffee, I don't know enough about Caligula
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    Peter Griffin (Family Guy DUUUHH) ???


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    Frank Sinatra

    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Sean Connery (thanks to FDG for pointing it out)



    He looks much more like ENTj, doesn't he?
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    INFp - The Lyrist - subtype

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    There is something very very wrong with most of these suggestions.

    Am I the only one to see it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guest Star
    There is something very very wrong with most of these suggestions.

    Am I the only one to see it?
    What would you consider wrong with them?
    , Se-sub
    8w8-3w8-7w8 sx/sx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraus
    Quote Originally Posted by Guest Star
    There is something very very wrong with most of these suggestions.

    Am I the only one to see it?
    What would you consider wrong with them?
    how about them NOT beiing the ESTPs? Socionically speaking that is.

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    1) Which ones are you talking about?
    2) What types would you consider them to be?
    3) What's the evidence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy-Wilbury
    He looks much more like ENTj, doesn't he?
    No I don't think so.
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    ... maybe a lot of people don't know who he even is, and if they do, then maybe they find it hard to type cartoons...
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    I think Zim is too spastic to be ESTp, or maybe it's just that he's a spastic ESTp?
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    David Lee Roth, rock star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu
    David Lee Roth, rock star.
    Nope, ESFp.

    Extreme Se subtype, so I can see how you might think he's ESTp. However, ESTps are generally much "graver" on the stage than him.
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    Agreed FDG--after I re-read the description of ESFP, it makes sense... And you're right, he's definitely an EXTREME Se subtype.

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    Stanley Kowalski

    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Stanley Kowalski

    Is that one sort of about a gang?


    I think I remember this character, I saw the movie about a year ago though so I don't remember him that much...=/

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    No, it's from Tennessee William's A Streetcar Named Desire.
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    Helps the fact that he's also interpreted by a SLE actor (IMHO )
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurora_faerie
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Stanley Kowalski

    Is that one sort of about a gang?


    I think I remember this character, I saw the movie about a year ago though so I don't remember him that much...=/
    You might be thinking of On the Waterfront - another awesome movie Brando was in.
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    i think of hugo chavez as esfj

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    Do you think any of these guys are ESTps?

    Randy Quaid



    Dave Thomas ("Bob Mackenzie")



    to the right of Rick Moranis, INFp. Strange Brew seemed like beta humor.

    Regis Philbin



    Pat Sajak



    (Vanna seems INTj like Sigourney Weaver)

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    What about:

    Joyce DeWitt
    Janet from Three's Company



    Katherine Helmond (??????)



    Ellen Barkin ??



    Jennifer Lopez



    ESTps???

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