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    sweet!! can u paste the SLI one too?
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    This description sounds like it was written by someone who's biased against one specific kind of ESTj. Kinda sound like average/unhealthy E8s or E1s, which I guess aren't uncommon for ESTjs anyways.

    All in all this isn't bad I guess, although my E8 ESFj dad sounds like this too. It's just important to remember how all type descriptions are just meant to describe a general figure and shouldn't be taken exactly literally. Secondary characteristics, not primary sources.
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    If the most characteristic thing of a type is their outbursts (of what, anger?) I wouldn't say that is a healthy group of people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu View Post
    If the most characteristic thing of a type is their outbursts (of what, anger?) I wouldn't say that is a healthy group of people...
    i loled. i didn't even notice the wording there. yeah, yikes.

    these are interesting, though, thanks song.

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    Cool, but why is it a screenshot?

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    External signs

    Among the external signs of the LSE should be allocated in the first place it straight posture, bad bendable figure. Such people say: a military bearing. In most cases, is thin. However, if enhanced sensory components, and is complete. This is often true for women. But in this case, a prominent figure in smartness, zafiksirovannost. Gait and character movements LSE - sudden, abrupt, intense. Feels great inner nervousness. Especially strong is visible in the subtype with enhanced logic. This is reflected in the fact that the LSE can not sit long in one position, it constantly changes, and in particular eye-shine when agitated conversation. Clothing LSE always gravitate to the business or classical style. For men, a traditional suit and tie. The fashion is usually not very particular, tends only to the quality and merit toiletries. Women also do not permit themselves extravagant outfits. If u want to dress fashionably, they taste all the same quite strict and conservative. LSE is also distinguished feature of care to treat clothing. Their clothes are always clean and tidy. Know how long to wear them. Things at the same time look almost like new. Do not allow themselves to inaccuracy appearance. Always smart, naglazheny, shoes polished.

    The manner of communication

    The main feature of the style of communication LSE stressed-bred manners, strict adherence to ethical standards when dealing c strangers. Most clearly seen in men, when they talk with the ladies. This appeal to "you" and offer to sit down, emphasized politeness. Familiarity is completely absent. LSE likes to question everything, learn the facts. Comparing the facts, make logical conclusions. Does not accept vague, evasive answers, requires specificity. On any issue has an opinion. Heated discussion defending him. Will never admit he was wrong about anything. Always find something to complain about. Does not like to talk about trifles, long zagovarivat on the phone, exchanging gossip. During the telephone conversations he had sometimes the voice is changing, becoming a sort of unnatural. Always in favor of practicality and usefulness. Does not understand and condemn dreamers who propose the beautiful but useless projects. Does not tolerate laziness, laxity. A supporter of the gradual but steady progress. Abrupt changes do not like. Leitmotif of his work stability. It was under this sign held activities of British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. Conservative views on family, particularly men. Are usually supporters of separation of duties: the husband the breadwinner, the wife - a homemaker, educator of children. Such people say: for them, like a stone wall.

    Features of the behavior

    The most characteristic feature of the behavior, which allows us to identify this sotsiotipy - recurrent outbursts. They occur when criticizing his way to perform the work is taught. Especially not tolerate it from people who themselves do not do, are not competent. At such moments can throw all that falls under the arm to beat the dishes. Beside himself, shouting to the criticism, points to his own shortcomings, not hesitating in your expressions. Similar outbreaks are choleric, when he that goes wrong in a particular job. It is characterized by very high efficiency. Can operate for many hours a day. However, from time to time needs to relax. May simply lie on the couch, watch TV, disconnecting from everything. But to sit idle can not. Does not like to hurt and lie in bed. Constantly active, busy, concrete work. Good inventors and innovators, as well as a constructor (T. Edison, SP Korolev). Always comes to help when people are threat of physical danger. Acts in such a situation with courage and determination. Do this not to brag. For purposes goes straight, not maneuvering. If attempting to cheat, then it is easy tricks are calculated. Operates fairly straightforward. Thanks to all this, the reputation of an honest man. All these qualities have helped Bush become president of the United States. Makes no tricks, deception, forgery, truancy. Does not like being so, windy. Prude.

    Recommendations

    Your strength lies in strict logic of facts, allowing you to accurately calculate the practical aspect of any business. You - a sober realist, able to properly assess the usefulness and effectiveness of hatching events. Do you have a good wit and a great awareness in the area that you are doing. You are - active and energetic person, not like wasting time, always know what you want, and know how to pursue this hard work and perseverance. You are able to efficiently and economically material resources.

    You are also characterized by the ability to create yourself and family material wealth and comfort. You strive for, a healthy, harmonious living and do not feel sorry for that of their forces, and also stimulate others to a variety of useful activities. You possess good organizational skills, as people are able to create conditions for work, interest them and then require returns. You really appreciate the quality of work and can not stand indiscipline and laziness.

    You love a nice, neat things, tasty and healthy food. Do you like when people evaluate you on the merits and does not impinge on your independence in the choice of solutions or methods.

    Your weakness is the inability to plan alternative activities for long periods. You often find yourself overloaded with work appearing from nowhere, need for early preparation for major events. You are sometimes hard to foresee the impending danger or failure in business. Unexpected turns of events that you could not foresee, annoy you, and even upset. You find it hard to wait long for the outcome of the case was up to, especially if there is no confidence in its success.

    You are advised to frequently revise their views on these or other aspects of life, to abandon outdated traditions and customs. Dry logic of facts should not suppress your instinct to a new and unusual. Moderate as possible to the conservatism and stubbornness often compare themselves with others, bring flexibility to compete. You tend to rely on their intuition about other people and do not suspect that strongly overestimate this quality in himself, and because you are not immune from erroneous conclusions and predictions. The consequence of this may be your misplaced suspicion, or even harshness in dealing with people that can put you in an awkward position. Show more restraint and tact in these matters.

    Another problem is your inability to keep their emotions in relation to significant others, do not obey your instructions and guidance, if their actions contradict your logic and common sense. This is even more unfortunate that with strangers you behave with restraint and correctly pointed out, show good manners and good manners. Relatives may be offended at you because of this quality.

    Their incontinence can alienate loved ones. Be tolerant, do not rush hastily to spread the truth in the eye. Excessive straightforwardness is not in your favor. First, cool down, then think about what is best to say and in what form.

    Learn to relax, to switch their attention from work for a nice holiday. Do you have a good sense of humor. Try to look at the conflicts with the humorous side, it will calm you, would yield to emotions in an acceptable form. More likely to read fiction, go to the theater - a holiday soften your strong character and will help educate the nobility of feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Cool, but why is it a screenshot?

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    yay, that's so much easier to read

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    sweet!! can u paste the SLI one too?
    Hopefully you've seen this by now, but just in case: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ad.php?t=34455

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Cool, but why is it a screenshot?
    Because what I copy/paste it directly from Google Translate, it looks like this:

    Манера общения The manner of communication

    Главная особенность стиля общения ЛСЭ подчеркнуто воспитанные манеры, строгое соблюдение норм этики при общении c посторонними людьми. The main feature of the style of communication FEL stressed-bred manners, strict adherence to ethical standards when dealing c strangers. Особенно ярко это видно у мужчин, когда они разговаривают с дамами. Most clearly seen in men, when they talk with the ladies. Это и обращение на "Вы", и предложения сесть, подчеркнутая вежливость. This appeal to "you" and offer to sit down, emphasized politeness. Фамильярность отсутствует полностью. Familiarity is completely absent. ЛСЭ любит обо всем расспрашивать, узнавать факты. FEL likes to question everything, learn the facts. Сопоставляя факты, делает логические выводы. Comparing the facts, make logical conclusions. Не признает, расплывчатых, уклончивых ответов, требует конкретности. Does not accept vague, evasive answers, requires specificity. По любому вопросу имеет свое мнение. On any issue has an opinion. Горячо спорит, отстаивая его. Heated discussion defending him. Никогда не признает свою неправоту в чем-либо. Will never admit he was wrong about anything. Всегда найдет, к чему придраться. Always find something to complain about. Не любит болтать по пустякам, долго заговаривать по телефону, обмениваться сплетнями. Does not like to talk about trifles, long zagovarivat on the phone, exchanging gossip. Во время телефонных разговоров у него даже иногда голос меняется, становится каким-то неестественным. During the telephone conversations he had sometimes the voice is changing, becoming a sort of unnatural. Всегда выступает в пользу практичности, целесообразности. Always in favor of practicality and usefulness. Не понимает и осуждает фантазеров, которые выдвигают красивые, но бесполезные проекты. Does not understand and condemn dreamers who propose the beautiful but useless projects. Не терпит лени, расхлябанности. Does not tolerate laziness, laxity. Сторонник постепенного, но неуклонного продвижения вперед. A supporter of the gradual but steady progress. Резких перемен не любит. Abrupt changes do not like. Лейтмотив его деятельности стабильность. Leitmotif of his work stability. Именно под этим знаком проходила деятельность британского премьер-министра Маргарет Тэтчер. It was under this sign held activities of British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. Консервативны во взглядах на семью, особенно мужчины. Conservative views on family, particularly men. Обычно являются сторонниками разделения обязанностей: муж кормилец, жена - домашняя хозяйка, воспитатель детей. Are usually supporters of separation of duties: the husband the breadwinner, the wife - a homemaker, educator of children. О таких людях говорят: за ним, как за каменной стеной. Such people say: for them, like a stone wall.
    I'm sure there's a way to fix it, short of going through and cutting out the Russian part, but I don't know how.

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