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    I'm MBTI INTP and Socionics INTP - my j/p doesn't switch.

    Can you explain why not.
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    That is because you typed yourself using the descriptions and the tests and ignored the functions when you attempted self-identification.
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    Default Re: Why doesn't my j/p doesn't switch?

    Edited for gayness.
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    I'm MBTI INTP and Socionics INTP - my j/p doesn't switch.

    Can you explain why not.
    It shouldn't switch, so you can relax - at least for now.

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    That is because you types yourself using the descriptions and the tests and ignored the functions when you attempted self-identification.
    If you are going to compare the models, it is better to ignore the functions, because the definitions of the functions are not the same. Compare the descriptions if you want to get a more complete picture of the INTP/INTp type.

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    Default Re: Why doesn't my j/p doesn't switch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Transigent
    Quote Originally Posted by mancroft
    I'm MBTI INTP and Socionics INTP - my j/p doesn't switch.

    Can you explain why not.
    Can you explain why they should?
    I just thought they normally did.
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    Mine don't either.

    I dont' think it's a case where they *do* switch, it's just that they're defined differently so they could. They aren't defined oppositely, just differently.
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    Where that whole idea of the j/p switch thing came from was a little wierdness on the part of MBTI.

    If you read Isabel Myers' book Gifts Differing, you'll find for instance that the INFP is listed as "Introverted Feeler" and INTP is listed as "Introverted Thinker." In Socionics, the dominant function for both INFps and INTps is Ni (Introverted Intuition), and so they are both "Intuitive Introverts." It's the INFj in Socionics whose dominant function is Introverted Feeling and the INTj whose dimonant function is Introverted Thinking.

    BUT, MBTI defines their functions differently from Socionics (and both systems define them differently from Jung's original ones - Jung himself said typing individual people was basically nonsense), and so it doesn't always work out that j must turn into p. I'm INFP in both.

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